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Old 02-18-2018, 08:28 PM   #1
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Ordered and donated $20. I spent some time perusing the website and was pleasantly surprised to see an attempt to merge theological thought with scientific thought as opposed to pitting one against the other. The donation was to show my appreciation for supporting 3D in the US.

When I grow up I want to get a degree in “3D” and start a company that provides limited edition, professional quality 3D versions of classic films. It would obviously be more of a hobby and labor of love - I wouldn’t expect it to pay the bills but that would be a dream. I suppose the required equipment would make it cost prohibitive? Or licensing rights? Though that could be worked around if I didn’t technically sale these conversions.

Does anyone with basic technical knowledge know if such a hobby is even feasible? I can’t work a “real” job but would love to learn more. I don’t want to waste resources if it’s not even remotely possible.
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Old 02-19-2018, 01:11 PM   #2
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I pre-ordered also.
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When I grow up I want to get a degree in “3D” and start a company that provides limited edition, professional quality 3D versions of classic films.
I have zero doubt that when glasses free 3D becomes a thing, studios will remaster at least some of their catalog of more sucessful movies in 3D and I’m totally up for it. It pains me that 3D died before someone applied the some love that Titanic gor to blade runner, moulin rouge and the fifth element. These 3 movies are my 3d conversions wishlist.
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This looks like some glossy, well-made propaganda that presents dinosaurs in a Garden of Eden scenario, not as a comedy routine, but as both scientific and biblical truth!

On the other hand, it does have dinosaurs and 3-D, so I may well check it out. Of course I can't in good conscience endorse the pseudoscience and unorthodox theology being peddled here. This is not what most Christians believe.

Don't get suckered in by some nice friendly folk with charismatic presentation skills and a lot of theatrical misdirection peppered with cherry-picked facts. Might be fun for what it's worth, but arguments and theories presented within should be taken with more than a few grains of salt.

... However I don't see the need to turn discussion of the topic into a debate about Atheism vs Religion, or Atheism vs Christianity. It's a very fringe group of Christians that subscribe to these beliefs. Most are not young earth creationists.

What does impress me is that they managed to get a 3D film independently funded and released in theaters, and I'm curious if their business model could be adapted for other kinds of movies. I assume it was the religious aspect and organised communities that enabled them to fundraise their budget. As such, it may only be possible for similarly organised communities to replicate such an effort, but I'd love to see other attempts, even if just from fringe elements with bizarre world-views!

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Ordered and donated $20. I spent some time perusing the website and was pleasantly surprised to see an attempt to merge theological thought with scientific thought as opposed to pitting one against the other. The donation was to show my appreciation for supporting 3D in the US.
My personal view is that Religion and Science are two very different spheres and should neither be pitted against one another, nor merged. Questions of faith are not to be resolved with scientific evidence, and questions of science are not to be resolved by consulting religious texts.
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My personal view is that Religion and Science are two very different spheres and should neither be pitted against one another, nor merged. Questions of faith are not to be resolved with scientific evidence, and questions of science are not to be resolved by consulting religious texts.
I don't see why not. Especially if it is scientifically testable.

So maybe say, the existence of an afterlife may not be something that current science can deal with (maybe eventually it can). On the other hand, something like miracles is directly addressable by science. (If the religious interpretation of miracles is correct, maybe science needs to be expanded, but it's still a scientific question.)

The movie is trying to appeal to science to justify Genesis. That's the right way to approach it, even if the conclusion is wrong.

Based on your comments, you appear to reject a young earth creation theory, presumably because it's not consistent with what science has found? Yet for many people, that's a question of faith.

Science is the investigation of what there is and how it works. Even the existence of a god is a scientific question, even if science can't resolve it at the moment.
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It's a very fringe group of Christians that subscribe to these beliefs. Most are not young earth creationists.
Well (unfortunately IMHO) half of Protestants believe in young earth and 37% of Catholics (Gallup 2017). Definitely bigger than fringe.
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Unfortunately a lot of talking and only a few nice 3d scenes. But does give you a few things to think about. But many documentaries are much better 3d features than this.

Many of the topics that are discussed are much better argued in 3d however. Overall a very different kind of 3d feature worth owning if you are interested in these religious arguments.

Just hard to categorize.
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When I grow up I want to get a degree in “3D” and start a company that provides limited edition, professional quality 3D versions of classic films. It would obviously be more of a hobby and labor of love - I wouldn’t expect it to pay the bills but that would be a dream. I suppose the required equipment would make it cost prohibitive? Or licensing rights? Though that could be worked around if I didn’t technically sale these conversions.

Does anyone with basic technical knowledge know if such a hobby is even feasible? I can’t work a “real” job but would love to learn more. I don’t want to waste resources if it’s not even remotely possible.
I'd like to see all classic 3-D films digitally mastered in 3D, but converting classic 2d films to 3D would be a lot of work. I don't know how much tools can improve, but as things are currently done, there is an extensive amount of manual work involved to produce 3-D worth watching. It is beyond the scope of one person.

I've tried my hand at doing 3D conversions of 2d still images, and that is certainly doable on a hobby basis, but still requires a lot of work to get good results.
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