LCD and black levels. - Blu-ray Forum

JasonHensley · 01-05-2009, 06:01 PM

As someone who just recently upgraded their TV from a Panasonic 1080i rear projection television to a Samsung LN52A850, I must say the black levels are amazing. Sure, it may not be as dark as the high end plasmas, but at night time the black bars literally vanish.

dobyblue · 01-05-2009, 06:29 PM

If the black bars "vanish" in a dark room, it's as dark as a plasma.
Got a pic?

SHines-IT · 01-05-2009, 06:56 PM

Shoot, my cheap LCD is like someone is holding a Surefire flashlight on... The blacks are horrible and I got them as black as they are going to get...

FIDDYPOP · 01-05-2009, 07:23 PM

I believe that the blacks on my Tv are good.

callas01 · 01-06-2009, 12:03 AM

Sorry about your sylvania, that is why most people here recommend that you get either and sony or samsung lcd, blacks, colors, performance are all top notch. tried and true, as the saying goes

SHines-IT · 01-06-2009, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by callas01

Sorry about your sylvania, that is why most people here recommend that you get either and sony or samsung lcd, blacks, colors, performance are all top notch. tried and true, as the saying goes

It was a christmas gift from my mom, lol. I still plain on getting a nice size TV this year. So I will be set, Sony 52" XBR 6. Then my Sylvania will be going in the bedroom, where it belongs.

steve1971 · 01-06-2009, 12:57 AM

I know this and thats that at night with all my lights turned off the black bars on my HD are black as heck. Cant even tell they are even there. I guess thats the mark of a good HD Tv.

dobyblue · 01-06-2009, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by steve1971

I know this and thats that at night with all my lights turned off the black bars on my HD are black as heck. Cant even tell they are even there. I guess thats the mark of a good HD Tv.

Damn I tried hard as hell with my friends 40" of the exact same TV you have over the holidays to get acceptable levels and I just couldn't do it. He has nice lighting on a dimmer which when set low makes it more bearable to watch, but as far as coming close to "black" there was no hope in hell, even with the backlight turned as low as it could go.

steve1971 · 01-06-2009, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dobyblue

Damn I tried hard as hell with my friends 40" of the exact same TV you have over the holidays to get acceptable levels and I just couldn't do it. He has nice lighting on a dimmer which when set low makes it more bearable to watch, but as far as coming close to "black" there was no hope in hell, even with the backlight turned as low as it could go.

Damn dude I dont what to tell ya on that. So its the KDL40V4100? My freind has one and I will check that out. All I know is that on mine its blacks are excellent.

micks_address · 01-08-2009, 10:06 AM

black levels on my sony w4000 are really good to especially since i had it ISF calibrated... may not be as black as plasma but pretty good.. i've also noticed that it depends on what the source is.. sometimes blacks are not always black from the source!

lojack1976 · 01-08-2009, 10:32 AM

Yeah, the source definitely makes a difference. Some movies have much better black levels than others. Another thing that can affect your viewing experience is wall paint. I have white walls and the light reflecting off of them definitely takes away from the black levels. The light from my tv makes half of my apartment light up. If I wasn't so lazy I'd paint them, but oh well...maybe one day.

SHines-IT · 01-08-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lojack1976

Yeah, the source definitely makes a difference. Some movies have much better black levels than others. Another thing that can affect your viewing experience is wall paint. I have white walls and the light reflecting off of them definitely takes away from the black levels. The light from my tv makes half of my apartment light up. If I wasn't so lazy I'd paint them, but oh well...maybe one day.

But since it's an apartment, you have to paint them back when you move... But IDK if that would be worth the hassle...

robertc88 · 01-08-2009, 12:45 PM

Watched Forbidden Kingdom paying special attention to the black bars at times. They virtually weren't noticeable at times but it is all dependent on what is being played. If it was bright daylight scene, there is no notice of the bars especially.

01-05-2009, 06:01 PM	#1
JasonHensley Senior Member Member since:Aug 2008 4K collection:96 Blu-ray collection:1221 DVD collection:39	LCD and black levels. As someone who just recently upgraded their TV from a Panasonic 1080i rear projection television to a Samsung LN52A850, I must say the black levels are amazing. Sure, it may not be as dark as the high end plasmas, but at night time the black bars literally vanish.

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01-05-2009, 06:29 PM	#2
dobyblue Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jul 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:71 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:655 Blu-ray reviews: 15	If the black bars "vanish" in a dark room, it's as dark as a plasma. Got a pic?

01-05-2009, 06:56 PM	#3
SHines-IT Special Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Eustis, FL Blu-ray collection:19 Trading Score:3	Shoot, my cheap LCD is like someone is holding a Surefire flashlight on... The blacks are horrible and I got them as black as they are going to get...

01-05-2009, 07:23 PM	#4
FIDDYPOP Expert Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Chi-Town Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:444 Blu-ray reviews:1	I believe that the blacks on my Tv are good.

01-06-2009, 12:03 AM	#5
callas01 Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Riverside, CA Home Theater Gallery:42 Blu-ray collection:230 DVD collection:47	Sorry about your sylvania, that is why most people here recommend that you get either and sony or samsung lcd, blacks, colors, performance are all top notch. tried and true, as the saying goes

01-06-2009, 12:57 AM	#7
steve1971 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Saint Paul Minnesota. 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:352 Blu-ray reviews: 119 Trading Score:1	I know this and thats that at night with all my lights turned off the black bars on my HD are black as heck. Cant even tell they are even there. I guess thats the mark of a good HD Tv.

01-08-2009, 10:06 AM	#10
micks_address Special Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Dublin Blu-ray collection:156 Trading Score:2	black levels on my sony w4000 are really good to especially since i had it ISF calibrated... may not be as black as plasma but pretty good.. i've also noticed that it depends on what the source is.. sometimes blacks are not always black from the source!

01-08-2009, 10:32 AM	#11
lojack1976 Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Aug 2008 Location:7 Cities, VA Home Theater Gallery:62 Blu-ray collection:203	Yeah, the source definitely makes a difference. Some movies have much better black levels than others. Another thing that can affect your viewing experience is wall paint. I have white walls and the light reflecting off of them definitely takes away from the black levels. The light from my tv makes half of my apartment light up. If I wasn't so lazy I'd paint them, but oh well...maybe one day.

01-08-2009, 12:45 PM	#13
robertc88 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007	Watched Forbidden Kingdom paying special attention to the black bars at times. They virtually weren't noticeable at times but it is all dependent on what is being played. If it was bright daylight scene, there is no notice of the bars especially.

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