Justice League 4K UHD (2017)

[Badrock63]

Finally watched my copy last night. I saw it twice in the theaters and I thought the PQ on the 4K disk blew it out of the water. All the neon's popped and quality was good.

I really thought this was a fun movie. I liked it better than BvS and SS. Yes it had its problems, but I thought it was a fun action movie.

I am not a big steelbook buyer, but I had to get this one. I am huge Jim Lee fan and loved that he did the art work for it.

[tyrok]

I like all the DCEU movies but how much better would it have been if they had just made The Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Flashpoint, and maybe Man of Steel 2 before attempting Justice League?

[imsounoriginal]

Flashpoint prior to Justice League? I dunno about that.

But yeah, the rest would've been cool.

[Boston007]

Originally Posted by Badrock63

Finally watched my copy last night. I saw it twice in the theaters and I thought the PQ on the 4K disk blew it out of the water. All the neon's popped and quality was good.

I really thought this was a fun movie. I liked it better than BvS and SS. Yes it had its problems, but I thought it was a fun action movie.

I am not a big steelbook buyer, but I had to get this one. I am huge Jim Lee fan and loved that he did the art work for it.

I agree with EVERYTHING you said

[tyrok]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Flashpoint prior to Justice League? I dunno about that.

But yeah, the rest would've been cool.

Okay, a regular Flash origin story first.

I guess they've always mentioned it would be a Flashpoint movie but only because he was already introduced in BvS which would have been skipped in favor of a solo Batman movie in this situation.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by tyrok

Okay, a regular Flash origin story first.

I guess they've always mentioned it would be a Flashpoint movie but only because he was already introduced in BvS which would have been skipped in favor of a solo Batman movie in this situation.

Yup, basically. But also Flashpoint became a really popular idea after it got out that Affleck was unhappy, so it'd be a convenient way to replace him.

I do still hope against hope that he stays. For all the inconsistency in the DCEU, he's an incredibly good Batman. And this is coming from someone who was skeptical of his casting.

[BluRayHiDef]

What do you guys think about WB hiring Steve McQueen, who directed 12 Years A Slave and Shame, to direct a film in the DCEU?

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by BluRayHiDef

What do you guys think about WB hiring Steve McQueen, who directed 12 Years A Slave and Shame, to direct a film in the DCEU?

He's a very good director. Both of those movies focus on characters dealing with isolation and regret (and obviously shame), among other things. Kind of makes him a good choice for any number of superheroes, but I wonder if he's even interested in a project like that. And of course he doesn't really have any action experience.

[EbonDragon]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

He's a very good director. Both of those movies focus on characters dealing with isolation and regret (and obviously shame), among other things. Kind of makes him a good choice for any number of superheroes, but I wonder if he's even interested in a project like that. And of course he doesn't really have any action experience.

Those sound like good themes to go along with a Cyborg film. Did Patty Jenkins have action experience before WW? I can’t remember but she handled those set pieces in WW pretty well.

[Deric2014]

Originally Posted by tyrok

I like all the DCEU movies but how much better would it have been if they had just made The Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Flashpoint, and maybe Man of Steel 2 before attempting Justice League?

Warner Bros and DC would have been in a better place if they made solo films before Justice League.

[bradnoyes]

Originally Posted by tyrok

I like all the DCEU movies but how much better would it have been if they had just made The Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Flashpoint, and maybe Man of Steel 2 before attempting Justice League?

Agreed. After watching Man of Steel I really wanted to get another solo Superman. Rushing into BvS really killed my interest in the characters. As it stands, MoS and WW are the only DC movies I'll probably ever watch again.

[pottyaboutpotter1]

Originally Posted by BluRayHiDef

What do you guys think about WB hiring Steve McQueen, who directed 12 Years A Slave and Shame, to direct a film in the DCEU?

I love it. McQueen is a fantastic director and 12 Years a Slave is one of the most powerful and engaging films of recent years. If WB let him do what he wants, we're in for something special. He's a great fit for Cyborg, which I imagine WB are now reviving after the success of Black Panther (there's been no movement on it for quite a while). If not Cyborg, he'd be an interesting fit for Batman if the rumours of Matt Reeves being close to quitting Batman have any ounce of truth to them. Hell, I'd like to see him tackle Man of Steel 2.

[pottyaboutpotter1]

Originally Posted by bradnoyes

Agreed. After watching Man of Steel I really wanted to get another solo Superman. Rushing into BvS really killed my interest in the characters. As it stands, MoS and WW are the only DC movies I'll probably ever watch again.

Agree totally with this. After Man of Steel, I wanted Man of Steel 2. BvS killed any attachment I had to Clark and Lois and made me exhausted with the franchise... after two films. Wonder Woman is the first DC film since Man of Steel I've really enjoyed.

[weberrygt]

IMO, doing all of the solo movies first would have been too close of a replica to what Marvel did. You can definitely say that it felt rushed with all the 'new' characters, but if they are able to provide solid solo films then it will be fine. Maybe it just feels too 'different' to what we were used to seeing (based on the Marvel movies). I guess you could say they built up the excitement with the team first and now they can dive into the individual characters. Maybe? Bueller?

[mzupeman]

Originally Posted by bradnoyes

Agreed. After watching Man of Steel I really wanted to get another solo Superman. Rushing into BvS really killed my interest in the characters. As it stands, MoS and WW are the only DC movies I'll probably ever watch again.

Mmhmm. They should have done a solo Batman, Batman vs Superman, and then followed up with singles for the other characters before attempting Justice League. But they’re in such a mad dash to catch up to, and compete with Marvel, that they just didn’t have the patience to do it. Sad. This franchise could have been really good.

[weberrygt]

Originally Posted by pottyaboutpotter1

Agree totally with this. After Man of Steel, I wanted Man of Steel 2. BvS killed any attachment I had to Clark and Lois and made me exhausted with the franchise... after two films. Wonder Woman is the first DC film since Man of Steel I've really enjoyed.

I understand what you are saying, but to add to my above thought, it just seems DC did not want to follow what Marvel did. Doing another Man of Steel would have just been more of the same of what we have seen, so they tied it directly to another character (Batman) and went into a related yet different story instead of continuing to develop the relationship shown in the previous movie.

(Speaking of which, I love the BvS opening scene from Bruce's perspective.)

I guess what we see next (wonder woman 2?) will truly identify what DC intends to do - tie characters/stories together (a fully immersive universe in a short period of time) or develop one character over several movies (which would be more like Marvel). Personally, I like both approaches!

Just my 2 cents.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

I'd be shocked if they're really thinking that far ahead at this point. Better to take things slow until the ship gets righted.

Exactly bringing in Darkseid would be just another hail mary pass in a desperate move.

THEY HAVE THE CAST TO CARRY GREAT SOLO FILMS.

THEY are literally individual films with outstanding tie in endings/ etc. away from making a worthy movie.

Aquaman with darksied hints at the end
Flash movie
Batman vs. letto Joker solo film
suicide squad 2
WW2
Maybe MAYBE after all that a grand vision film with darkseid

Rushing to Darkseid won't save it lol they have the cast actually use them, nobody knows what marvels gonna look like after everyone exits and Pratt will exit after a few more films as-well let the great cast whoever picked all these people flow!

[pottyaboutpotter1]

Originally Posted by supersix4

Exactly bringing in Darkseid would be just another hail mary pass in a desperate move.

THEY HAVE THE CAST TO CARRY GREAT SOLO FILMS.

THEY are literally individual films with outstanding tie in endings/ etc. away from making a worthy movie.

Aquaman with darksied hints at the end
Flash movie
Batman vs. letto Joker solo film
suicide squad 2
WW2
Maybe MAYBE after all that a grand vision film with darkseid

Rushing to Darkseid won't save it lol they have the cast actually use them, nobody knows what marvels gonna look like after everyone exits and Pratt will exit after a few more films as-well let the great cast whoever picked all these people flow!

I wouldn't be surprised if they stay away from Darkseid for quite a while so they don't get accused of ripping off Thanos (ultimately ironic as Thanos was pretty much a Darkseid rip-off in the comics).

I think they'll go down a route of a supervillain team up being the League's next threat (presuming Justice League 2 actually gets made and WB doesn't consider the brand name to be tainted). Lex Luthor, Joker, Deathstroke, Cheetah, Reverse-Flash (presuming he's in Flashpoint) and Ocean Master (presuming he survives Aquaman) would be a great line up to go against the League.

[SwaGGInTheShadows]

Originally Posted by weberrygt

imo, doing all of the solo movies first would have been too close of a replica to what marvel did. You can definitely say that it felt rushed with all the 'new' characters, but if they are able to provide solid solo films then it will be fine. Maybe it just feels too 'different' to what we were used to seeing (based on the marvel movies). I guess you could say they built up the excitement with the team first and now they can dive into the individual characters. Maybe? Bueller?

this. And this only

[pottyaboutpotter1]

Originally Posted by weberrygt

I understand what you are saying, but to add to my above thought, it just seems DC did not want to follow what Marvel did. Doing another Man of Steel would have just been more of the same of what we have seen, so they tied it directly to another character (Batman) and went into a related yet different story instead of continuing to develop the relationship shown in the previous movie.

I don't think it was an attempt to be "different" to Marvel, since we know WB forced Batman into Man of Steel 2, transforming it into BvS, as well as forcing and rushing the DCEU. It wasn't an attempt to be different to Marvel. I think that's giving WB (and their greedy executives) too much credit. They wanted the big money Marvel makes and they wanted it as soon as possible. They wanted the reward without the effort. We've seen it done multiple times, a studio rushing a cinematic universe without laying the foundation and paying the price for it; Sony with The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Universal with The Mummy etc.

To briefly bring compare to Marvel, the reason Marvel's universe works is because they took the time to allow audiences to get attached to each character first. Seeing Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk and Thor unite in The Avengers feels important because we've spent time with each of them before this. DC's films don't have that investment from audiences because we haven't spent enough time with the characters to really care about them. Imagine how much stronger some of the big emotional beats in the DCEU films would feel if they were the payoff to several films worth of investment and character development? How much stronger would Superman's death have been if we'd spent two or more films with him prior to BvS, allowing him to grow as a character?

DC and WB already announced they're going to focus more on standalone films after Justice League, which hopefully means they know where they went wrong and are trying to fix it. I have to give them credit for trying to salvage the DCEU instead of just taking the easy route and rebooting like any other studio would have done, it's just the issue that it might be too little too late. Hopefully they can take another crack at the team ups once there's a strong foundation to support it.

Just my thoughts anyway