2018 QUESTION: See Chart to determine your 4K UHD Distance and Screen Size?

[Visitor2014]

Unbelievable!

This BEGS the questions!

1. What size and model of TV do you have?
   
   
2. Using a measuring tape from where your eyes are to the very front of the screen, how many feet distance is there?
   
   
3. Do you have in your standard BLURAY collection the 2011 release of the 1982 movie titled Blade Runner (The Final Cut) ?

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I was shocked!

I have purchased three (3) Big Screens since 2014!

All of my 2014- 2018 purchases for my "bedroom" have been 65" screens. I went from a 2014 Samsung 65" LED to a 2017 Samsung 65" 4K Ultra HD LED TV to a most recent 65" LG 4K Ultra HD OLED TV.

So . . . the shock I experienced a few days ago was coming across the above image chart (which is posted "everywhere" in the internet with deep anaylasis as to what should be expected when I insert a Blu-ray or a 4K Blu-ray.

My eyes to screen distance for the last four years has been 12 feet.

My eyes to screen distance for the last 48 hours has been 8 feet.

QUESTION:
What the heck does a regular Blu-Ray supposed to look like?

MY FINDING:
What I "thought" was UHD (4K) is actually just good ol' 1080 Blu-ray stuff! That's because the chart says at 12 feet for my 65" OLED set, I am right on the border of 1080 . . . and no where near the Ultra HD (4K) experience.

BEING REALISTIC:
The chart says for me to move the Screen closer my bed (actually my eyeballs) so as to be from 4 Feet to a little over 8 1/2 Feet. (No way will I have my nose 4 feet from the screen!) I settled on 8 1/2 feet.

WHAT TO DO WITH BLU-RAY COLLECTION:
I have been collecting films since the VHS days. I amassed a new collection in the 90's when DVDs came out. Then I started on Blu-rays. The 4K revolution (for me) is going to be a snail pace by choice. True, the spectacular LD OLED technology does wonders with making a standard Blu-ray look better these days . . . but is "better"? How much "better" do I need to make it look?? My goal is to now revisit all of my standard Blu-rays and see if they POP before my eyes with a wow-factor. If so, then I will save thousands of dollars.

Here is an excellent superb source which includes why our eyeballs may not see any difference (the science of the retina effect) between 720 DVD and 4K UHD:

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by...e-relationship

I really desire your opinions and feedback!

[AnalogAperture]

Originally Posted by Visitor2014

Unbelievable!

This BEGS the questions!

1. What size and model of TV do you have?
   
   
2. Using a measuring tape from where your eyes are to the very front of the screen, how many feet distance is there?
   
   
3. Do you have in your standard BLURAY collection the 2011 release of the 1982 movie titled Blade Runner (The Final Cut) ?

______________________________________________

I was shocked!

I have purchased three (3) Big Screens since 2014!

All of my 2014- 2018 purchases for my "bedroom" have been 65" screens. I went from a 2014 Samsung 65" LED to a 2017 Samsung 65" 4K Ultra HD LED TV to a most recent 65" LG 4K Ultra HD OLED TV.

So . . . the shock I experienced a few days ago was coming across the above image chart (which is posted "everywhere" in the internet with deep anaylasis as to what should be expected when I insert a Blu-ray or a 4K Blu-ray.

My eyes to screen distance for the last four years has been 12 feet.

My eyes to screen distance for the last 48 hours has been 8 feet.

QUESTION:
What the heck does a regular Blu-Ray supposed to look like?

MY FINDING:
What I "thought" was UHD (4K) is actually just good ol' 1080 Blu-ray stuff! That's because the chart says at 12 feet for my 65" OLED set, I am right on the border of 1080 . . . and no where near the Ultra HD (4K) experience.

BEING REALISTIC:
The chart says for me to move the Screen closer my bed (actually my eyeballs) so as to be from 4 Feet to a little over 8 1/2 Feet. (No way will I have my nose 4 feet from the screen!) I settled on 8 1/2 feet.

WHAT TO DO WITH BLU-RAY COLLECTION:
I have been collecting films since the VHS days. I amassed a new collection in the 90's when DVDs came out. Then I started on Blu-rays. The 4K revolution (for me) is going to be a snail pace by choice. True, the spectacular LD OLED technology does wonders with making a standard Blu-ray look better these days . . . but is "better"? How much "better" do I need to make it look?? My goal is to now revisit all of my standard Blu-rays and see if they POP before my eyes with a wow-factor. If so, then I will save thousands of dollars.

Here is an excellent superb source which includes why our eyeballs may not see any difference (the science of the retina effect) between 720 DVD and 4K UHD:

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by...e-relationship

I really desire your opinions and feedback!

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Most Pleased to see Blade Runner as the reference Film!

[Visitor2014]

Originally Posted by AnalogAperture

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Most Pleased to see Blade Runner as the reference Film!

Thanks.

How close are you to your big screen?

[william273]

Originally Posted by Visitor2014

Thanks.

How close are you to your big screen?

I have a 55inch Samsung 4k that's a few months old and am trying to find the best distance too. For my TV it's somewhere between 3-1/2 to about 7ft. At 5 ft the furniture just doesn't work...sofa and chair look out of place and to close but the view itself is nice...I like the immersion factor but everything else doesn't look right.

Bottom line I don't think people sit at the closest ranges....it might work in theory but isn't practical in the real world and I haven't seen any photos of people that do. Guess no one will ever get the real benefit of 4k and sit that close and I'm starting to think 4K is BS for TVs at 55 inches. The only reason I got the TV is for the larger size coming from a 48 inch 1080 and 4K is about all that's out there so I didn't really have a choice. I should have gone bigger...65.

[imsounoriginal]

I sit about five feet away from a 40" 4K, which is apparently just on the edge of "worth it." Lucky me.

[william273]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

I sit about five feet away from a 40" 4K, which is apparently just on the edge of "worth it." Lucky me.

LOL...Yea...I'm thinking twice about all the hoopla about 4k...I mean what's the use if you can't see the difference at a comfortable viewing distance even with HDR included.

[imsounoriginal]

Oh I was being sarcastic. At my viewing distance and with such a small screen, I can still see a substantial difference. It's absolutely worth it.

[william273]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Oh I was being sarcastic. At my viewing distance and with such a small screen, I can still see a substantial difference. It's absolutely worth it.

Well at 40 inches you might be ok but you can get a lot closer...maybe a couple inches from the screen. What's your sweet spot distance?

[qwknuf6]

6-7' from 77" screen , eyes to screen measurement

[Visitor2014]

Originally Posted by william273

I have a 55inch Samsung 4k that's a few months old and am trying to find the best distance too. For my TV it's somewhere between 3-1/2 to about 7ft. At 5 ft the furniture just doesn't work...sofa and chair look out of place and to close but the view itself is nice...I like the immersion factor but everything else doesn't look right.

Bottom line I don't think people sit at the closest ranges....it might work in theory but isn't practical in the real world and I haven't seen any photos of people that do. Guess no one will ever get the real benefit of 4k and sit that close and I'm starting to think 4K is BS for TVs at 55 inches. The only reason I got the TV is for the larger size coming from a 48 inch 1080 and 4K is about all that's out there so I didn't really have a choice. I should have gone bigger...65.

Wow . . . I am impressed someone other than me has discovered how close to the screen really works . . . and how much ** we are fed at the stores and nearly everywhere else.

So I with you, thinking what in the world are they sayin?? Place my face that close to the screen?? My mother from the 'ol days was always warning me not to be so close to the tube TV. But not so with the 4Ks.

You confirmed my hunch that the extra $$$$ may have gotten me 75-85" LG Oled instead of the 65" I bought. Why? My 65" was "supposed" have the WOW factor in front of my Kingsize bed against the wall - which was a reasonable 4-5 feet from the foot of my bed. Now I have it a mere 18-24" inches in front of my bed which kicks up the WOW factor. But that's because the distance between my eyeballs on the pillow and the screen is within . . . THE BLU RAY RANGE! I gotta move it closed to 4K range!

Do what you have to do. Fortunately I buy from Costco which offers a no-question refund cash for 90 days

[Visitor2014]

Originally Posted by qwknuf6

6-7' from 77" screen , eyes to screen measurement

Sweet . . .

If LG had offered an Oled in a 77" at Costco, I would have spent the extra $900 above the cost of the 65". But I didn't know any of this "stuff".

So a 77" at 6-7 feet from the eyeballs does it, eh? With six feet the 65" at least gives me a better view than not. At least ALL of my blu-rays look better!

(By the way, did you just buy a 77"? Your signature says LG E7 65”)

[Visitor2014]

Originally Posted by william273

Well at 40 inches you might be ok but you can get a lot closer...maybe a couple inches from the screen. What's your sweet spot distance?

Are we maybe thinking 4K Google Glasses? [wink]

[qwknuf6]

Originally Posted by Visitor2014

Sweet . . .

If LG had offered an Oled in a 77" at Costco, I would have spent the extra $900 above the cost of the 65". But I didn't know any of this "stuff".

So a 77" at 6-7 feet from the eyeballs does it, eh? With six feet the 65" at least gives me a better view than not. At least ALL of my blu-rays look better!

(By the way, did you just buy a 77"? Your signature says LG E7 65”)

I did just get a G7 77” , its the best OLED i have had so far , (my 4th OLED) no distracting banding , white screen is good , no discolored streaks , I do wish the screen was wider , not taller.

[Cook]

I've got a 55" 4k tv and I sit 12' away. Ive been watching TVs from that distance for 14+ years and I can easily tell the resolution difference between 480, 720, 1080, and 4k. HDR is obvious on any size tv at any standard room distance. And that's with only one good working eye. My left eye is extremely near sighted. Anything beyond 5' is a blur to my left eye. So Ive never put much stock in these charts and the "science" behind these charts. My advice is to just arrange your tv and your room in whatever way is most comfortable and pleasing to you. Don't get too hung up on the science of it all.

[Al_The_Strange]

60" LG 4K TV (don't remember the model, it's pretty new though). Just measured my distance from screen to my eyeballs and it's around 7'. Looks like it's within range for UHD on the chart, so I'm happy. And yes, I can make out the difference.

It kinda surprised me when I talked about viewing distances at work and all my coworkers seemed to want to increase the distance. They thought 6-7 ft was way to close. And I'm like, but why? It's not like I'm pressing my eyes on the screen, I just like to have the movie fill my whole field of view, and I want to make out the fine details.

[Cook]

Originally Posted by Al_The_Strange

60" LG 4K TV (don't remember the model, it's pretty new though). Just measured my distance from screen to my eyeballs and it's around 7'. Looks like it's within range for UHD on the chart, so I'm happy. And yes, I can make out the difference.

It kinda surprised me when I talked about viewing distances at work and all my coworkers seemed to want to increase the distance. They thought 6-7 ft was way to close. And I'm like, but why? It's not like I'm pressing my eyes on the screen, I just like to have the movie fill my whole field of view, and I want to make out the fine details.

I think a lot of people just don't want their living rooms set up in such a cramped way. A couch 6 feet from a tv in a living room doesnt allow much room for a coffee table in front of the couch and if it's a reclining couch that requires more room between t and other things in the room. And its hard to sit 6 feet from a tv in a bedroom if the tv is hanging on a wall. Most beds are 6 feet at least and unless the room is the size of a matchbox there will be at least a few feet between the foot of the bed and the wall.

[Visitor2014]

With hundreds of Blu-ray movies listed here that used a 4K Transfer to produce an outstanding Blu-ray at a fraction of the sell price, it is no wonder why a 65" Screen is better located at the Foot of a Bed rather than against the wall.

Anyone else?

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Cook

I've got a 55" 4k tv and I sit 12' away. Ive been watching TVs from that distance for 14+ years and I can easily tell the resolution difference between 480, 720, 1080, and 4k.

And I have X-Ray vision like Superman

[Auditor55]

Ultra HD TV: Home Theater Geeks 180 - YouTube

[Visitor2014]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

(2013 85" Samsung close to couch)

Thank you for posting that video. Everything they spoke about five years ago as to what we should have in an UHD system, seems to be contained in the current LD OLED Tvs . . . where I have multiple, multiple settings for various configurations (unlike what some Samsungs are limited in).

But most important is the photo of his set in relation to where his couch is . . . to fully enjoy all of the pixels meant to be seen.

From the above video review: