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Old 01-09-2009, 06:45 PM   #1
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Cool newbe question about banana plugs

I hooked up my 805 and polks last night. WOW I am impressed. the only thing I do not like is the connection to the 805. thinking about grabbing some banana plugs to secure things up. I looked at bestbuy.com and they have several options. which do I need? also if I was going to use them on the speaker side which kind do I need?

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Old 01-09-2009, 06:50 PM   #2
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Hi,

There's some really good information here.

Banana plugs make for the most convenient connection, although I personally prefer spades.

Whatever you decide on, anything is better than just a bare wire connection.

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Old 01-09-2009, 07:12 PM   #3
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I hooked up my 805 and polks last night. WOW I am impressed. the only thing I do not like is the connection to the 805. thinking about grabbing some banana plugs to secure things up. I looked at bestbuy.com and they have several options. which do I need? also if I was going to use them on the speaker side which kind do I need?

thanks guys
The benefit is for the ease of connection. I have them on receiver side, but not on speaker side, just dont see the need to have them cuz its easy to connect to a speaker. Id use monoprice.com for buying them, much cheaper than best buy...
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:38 PM   #4
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which on do I need for connection to the 805? I like monoprice but their shipping was REALLY slow last tome. canada is a long way from alabama
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:40 PM   #5
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which on do I need for connection to the 805? I like monoprice but their shipping was REALLY slow last tome. canada is a long way from alabama
aaahhh i see, i just know best buys are expensive, i happened to check them out like a month ago. you can get any kind, they all should work for your receiver, unless im mistaken
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Old 01-09-2009, 08:00 PM   #7
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Some do fit better than others but I agree they are primarilly for ease of use. Personally, I've used bananas, spades and bare wire on speakers. If there's a difference in actual sound quality... It's so slight I can't detect it. Spades are more solid, bananas are easier... the only reason I've found, as to why most in the industry prefer not to use bare wire, is that over time (years), the bare wire oxydizes from the open air and you lose much of the highs they say.

The other reason why bare wire is not overly recomended, is that sometimes, if loosely connected, a strand can touch metal and cause the receiver or amp to shut down, going into protection mode. Strands can loosen up if the wire itself is moved around a lot and the sound can then either pop in and out or fade in and out. Anyway, that's what I've heard and also experienced.
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Some do fit better than others but I agree they are primarilly for ease of use. Personally, I've used bananas, spades and bare wire on speakers. If there's a difference in actual sound quality... It's so slight I can't detect it. Spades are more solid, bananas are easier... the only reason I've found, as to why most in the industry prefer not to use bare wire, is that over time (years), the bare wire oxydizes from the open air and you lose much of the highs they say.

The other reason why bare wire is not overly recomended, is that sometimes, if loosely connected, a strand can touch metal and cause the receiver or amp to shut down, going into protection mode. Strands can loosen up if the wire itself is moved around a lot and the sound can then either pop in and out or fade in and out. Anyway, that's what I've heard and also experienced.
The only thing that i dont understand with what you said, and your definately not the first person to say it but, how bare wire is not recomended because of oxidation. but in reality, its not like banana plugs are air tight, they are going to oxidize the same with or without plugs or spades, ya know...
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:50 PM   #9
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so these will work?

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/produc...39N863-/27-525
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Banana plugs make for the most convenient connection, although I personally prefer spades.

Whatever you decide on, anything is better than just a bare wire connection.
Agreed; great advice all round! My current speaker cables use banana plugs, but I'll be sure to specify spades from now on.
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:14 AM   #11
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Yeah I have spades on my speakers & on the Amp I have Banana plugs the ease of use is great the cables themselves are magnetically shielded which is good, does it improve the sound, well I cannot detect a difference in sound quality having said that I have then cause:
1. Ease of use.
2. I dont like bare wires cause of oxidation.
3. Magnetically shielded.
4. Good quality cables look great & they are very well assembled.

I have Airloc plugs:
http://www.futureshop.co.uk/qed-xtub...ble-p-960.html
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:28 AM   #12
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which on do I need for connection to the 805? I like monoprice but their shipping was REALLY slow last tome. canada is a long way from alabama

Weird...... I'm in AL and I always get stuf from monprice in a few days. Are you sure they are in Canada?
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I bought these a while back to make a few jumper cables. Can be crimped on or soldered, although I soldered them on and sealed it up with a little heat shrink tubing............

http://www.musicdirect.com/product/72771

Come in silver too.
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which on do I need for connection to the 805? I like monoprice but their shipping was REALLY slow last tome. canada is a long way from alabama
Monoprice is in Rancho Cucamonga, CA, less than 45 minutes east of Los Angeles. I live about 25 minutes from Monoprice's headquarter.

http://www.monoprice.com/home/home.asp?pn=aboutus

Monoprice, Inc.
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Fax : (909) 989-0078

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Saturday: 6:15AM ~ 2:45PM Pacific Time
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Monoprice is in Rancho Cucamonga, CA, less than 45 minutes east of Los Angeles. I live about 25 minutes from Monoprice's headquarter.

http://www.monoprice.com/home/home.asp?pn=aboutus

Monoprice, Inc.
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I do not know, but my speaker wire came on a SLOW truck from Ontario, Canada
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I do not know, but my speaker wire came on a SLOW truck from Ontario, Canada
There is a city of Ontario, California next to Rancho Cucamonga. There is also an International Airport in Ontario, California. The city was named many many years ago by two brothers from Ontario, Canada. Monoprice and UPS use the Ontario airport for their shipment.

http://www.ci.ontario.ca.us/

EDIT: Your item must have been out of stock. Monoprice is pretty good with their shipping.

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Old 01-13-2009, 12:27 AM   #17
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I assumed so since everyone recomends them, I was just surprized when my 805 (which I ordered the same day) showed up 4 days before my wire
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Old 01-13-2009, 12:57 AM   #18
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I got some great banana plugs at Radio Shack for not much more than MonoPrice, and I had them immediately. I got them, finally, because it is just nearly impossible to get behind your receiver sometimes and hold speaker wire in one hand, while you tighten the post with the other. With the banana plugs, you just need one hand, and it's "plug and play"!
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Anyone who would make speaker connections without using banana plugs is a masochist!!!
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I've never used anything but bare wire. The oxidation thing, as stated above, can occur on any exposed metal parts. A couple of months ago I bought some banana plugs from Monoprice, but haven't used them yet. They will go on the next time I need to monkey with the AVR. I will leave bare wires on the speakers.

The biggest disadvantage to bare wire that I have experienced is that some of the bare wire ends break off after connecting/disconnecting, then you have to take the time to restrip. It will become a huge issue, in the event you have to troubleshoot an AVR or similar and swap things in and out a few times.
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