British Film Institute (BFI) Discussion Thread - Page 235 - Blu-ray Forum

billy35 · 03-27-2018, 08:22 AM

"Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom"

"This film was restored from the camera negative scanned at 4K, and the Italian magnetic mix soundtrack."

https://www.focalint.org/focal-inter...oject-or-title

BFI were the only ones who released Salo in blu ray for region B. Other release was by Criterion region A locked. However, it was the very first blu ray that BFI did (if im not mistaken) and while it was a great overal 2 disc package with lots of extras, the movie transfer suffered from all sorts of digital manipulation. If I remember the story correct, Salo was scanned at 2k in Italy and only then sent to BFI team with all the inherited grain removal, edge-enhancement, halo... Not much could be done afterwards. Now, since it was scanned at 4k back in 2015, Im really curious how does it look and how much of an upgrade it would be! Im not sure if BFI are willing to again, but someone surely should grab it!

I have also read there was a new 4k restoration of "L'Atalante" by Jean Vigo (possibly already released in Japan), as well as completed or ongoing 4k restorations of his other few titles. Once again, Criterion release is the one who stands out the most as a whole package, but it was scanned at 2k, while Im not sure there is anything at all for us in region B.. This would be a great opportunity!

easydreamer · 03-27-2018, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by billy35

I have also read there was a new 4k restoration of "L'Atalante" by Jean Vigo (possibly already released in Japan), as well as completed or ongoing 4k restorations of his other few titles. Once again, Criterion release is the one who stands out the most as a whole package, but it was scanned at 2k, while Im not sure there is anything at all for us in region B.. This would be a great opportunity!

Yes, the Japanese Blu-ray of L’atalante is the 4K resto. Zero fo Conduct is supposed to be the 4K resto as well. Not sure of his other titles though.

CouncilSpectre · 03-30-2018, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Yami

The BFI will be releasing a new 2K restoration of G.W. Pabst's Pandora's Box in cinemas this June. I think there's a strong likelihood they'll release it on Blu-Ray as well.

Interesting that it’s a new 2k DCP of the 1997 restoration and not the more recent one undertaken by Deutsche Kinemathek around 2010.

Yami · 03-30-2018, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CouncilSpectre

Interesting that it’s a new 2k DCP of the 1997 restoration and not the more recent one undertaken by Deutsche Kinemathek around 2010.

And wasn’t there an even more recent attempt, funded by Hugh Hefner around 2012?

sjt · 03-30-2018, 11:59 PM

Now why would Hugh Hefner have decided to dip a financial finger into Pandora's Box? Do you think he had it confused with a film about something else?

Jr7936 · 03-31-2018, 05:01 AM

i want the jarman set but $67 after the 10 off 50 gbp code from amazon is still very high

Pera · 03-31-2018, 05:05 AM

I preordered Jarman set from Base but when I search their site I can't find it anywhere.
It's also no longer listed on Zavvi.
Anyone has any clue, what's going on?

It's still available at Amazon UK but way too overpriced!

sjt · 03-31-2018, 05:18 AM

It is still listed on Zavvi, but showing as "Sold Out" and therefore no longer orderable (mine is still in place, it seems). Clearly it's going to miss any of its announced release dates, including this coming Monday's (according to Amazon). But it will appear sooner or later, whenever the BFI sorts out whatever problems they've encountered, about which they're keeping very tight-lipped...

Jr7936 · 03-31-2018, 05:19 AM

i got a notice to change my payment method so they could ship it,
i am wondering now if it sold out everywhere else but its the same price at bfi as on amazon.co.uk

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Originally Posted by Pera

I preordered Jarman set from Base but when I search their site I can't find it anywhere.
It's also no longer listed on Zavvi.
Anyone has any clue, what's going on?

It's still available at Amazon UK but way too overpriced!

Pera · 03-31-2018, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sjt

It is still listed on Zavvi, but showing as "Sold Out" and therefore no longer orderable (mine is still in place, it seems). Clearly it's going to miss any of its announced release dates, including this coming Monday's (according to Amazon). But it will appear sooner or later, whenever the BFI sorts out whatever problems they've encountered, about which they're keeping very tight-lipped...

I don't mind another delay, I'm just scared that Base might not deliver it.
That said after The Apartment disaster I wouldn't trust Amazon either.
It doesn't seem to be selling that well on Amazon #1474 in DVD & Blu-ray, so hopefully it's not the case of it being sold out already.

Pera · 03-31-2018, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jr7936

i got a notice to change my payment method so they could ship it,
i am wondering now if it sold out everywhere else but its the same price at bfi as on amazon.co.uk

You got notice from Base?

Jr7936 · 03-31-2018, 05:41 AM

from amazon.co.uk but hmv has it for 49.99 gbp but i can't order from there since i am in the USA

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Originally Posted by Pera

You got notice from Base?

CouncilSpectre · 03-31-2018, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Yami

And wasn’t there an even more recent attempt, funded by Hugh Hefner around 2012?

I think that's the same one. The later restoration was Martin Koerber's project, and seemed to be a more collaborative effort, involving Deutsche Kinemathek, Haghefilm Conservation, George Eastman House, Cinémathèque Français, Narodni Filmovy Archiv and Gosfilmofond via Cineteca di Bologna. Hefner was a major funder behind the project.

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Originally Posted by sjt

Now why would Hugh Hefner have decided to dip a financial finger into Pandora's Box? Do you think he had it confused with a film about something else?

Hefner was a massive silent movie fan. Apparently he dedicated a night a week to watching silents.

He was a long-time critic of movie censorship (not surprisingly I guess), and Pandora's Box was heavily censored at the time. Doesn't really surprise me that he'd gravitate towards supporting something like this.

ravenus · 03-31-2018, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sjt

Now why would Hugh Hefner have decided to dip a financial finger into Pandora's Box? Do you think he had it confused with a film about something else?

Eh what? PB is a pretty racy film in tone with its femme fatale lead and has some lesbian hints, sounds like just the sort of thing a Hefner would support.

Si Parallel Universe · 03-31-2018, 10:54 AM

So what is actually going on with the Jarman Box release ? Does anyone actually know ? The option to pre-order is gone on sites because it has passed the 26th March (the listed release date) but if some sites only charge once its been shipped it sort of still counts right ?

Pera · 03-31-2018, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Si Parallel Universe

So what is actually going on with the Jarman Box release ? Does anyone actually know ? The option to pre-order is gone on sites because it has passed the 26th March (the listed release date) but if some sites only charge once its been shipped it sort of still counts right ?

Most sites have it listed for April 2nd. My guess is there will be another delay.

Aunt Peg · 03-31-2018, 11:55 AM

I pre-ordered my Jarman set from Amazon and just received an advice that it has shipped.

Si Parallel Universe · 03-31-2018, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pera

Most sites have it listed for April 2nd. My guess is there will be another delay.

I'm popping into Cardiff I can see what the state of play is with HMV. If they have them in the Stock room I'll have my answer.

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Originally Posted by Aunt Peg

I pre-ordered my Jarman set from Amazon and just received an advice that it has shipped.

That's great.

You can see why I'm confused though eh ?

Eibon · 03-31-2018, 04:38 PM

They had the Jarman set in Tower Records today. Disappointed to see it has slim blue DVD cases as the imagery suggested it'd be a nice digipack but of course the content is what's important. Just looks a bit of a missed opportunity for classy packaging.

gap · 03-31-2018, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Eibon

They had the Jarman set in Tower Records today. Disappointed to see it has slim blue DVD cases as the imagery suggested it'd be a nice digipack but of course the content is what's important. Just looks a bit of a missed opportunity for classy packaging.

In Dublin, per chance? Do you remember the price?

03-31-2018, 10:54 AM	#4695
Si Parallel Universe Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2015 Location:A Parallel Universe Somewhere 4K collection:136 Blu-ray collection:3086 DVD collection:395 Blu-ray reviews: 9 Trading Score:1	Derek Jarman V1 So what is actually going on with the Jarman Box release ? Does anyone actually know ? The option to pre-order is gone on sites because it has passed the 26th March (the listed release date) but if some sites only charge once its been shipped it sort of still counts right ?

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03-27-2018, 08:22 AM	#4681
billy35 Member Member since:Jan 2018 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	"Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom" "This film was restored from the camera negative scanned at 4K, and the Italian magnetic mix soundtrack." https://www.focalint.org/focal-inter...oject-or-title BFI were the only ones who released Salo in blu ray for region B. Other release was by Criterion region A locked. However, it was the very first blu ray that BFI did (if im not mistaken) and while it was a great overal 2 disc package with lots of extras, the movie transfer suffered from all sorts of digital manipulation. If I remember the story correct, Salo was scanned at 2k in Italy and only then sent to BFI team with all the inherited grain removal, edge-enhancement, halo... Not much could be done afterwards. Now, since it was scanned at 4k back in 2015, Im really curious how does it look and how much of an upgrade it would be! Im not sure if BFI are willing to again, but someone surely should grab it! I have also read there was a new 4k restoration of "L'Atalante" by Jean Vigo (possibly already released in Japan), as well as completed or ongoing 4k restorations of his other few titles. Once again, Criterion release is the one who stands out the most as a whole package, but it was scanned at 2k, while Im not sure there is anything at all for us in region B.. This would be a great opportunity!

03-30-2018, 11:59 PM	#4685
sjt Power Member Member since:Sep 2012 Location:London	Now why would Hugh Hefner have decided to dip a financial finger into Pandora's Box? Do you think he had it confused with a film about something else?

03-31-2018, 05:01 AM	#4686
Jr7936 Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 4K collection:44 Blu-ray collection:1299 DVD collection:167 Digital collection:49 Trading Score:245	i want the jarman set but $67 after the 10 off 50 gbp code from amazon is still very high

03-31-2018, 05:05 AM	#4687
Pera Active Member Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Location:Serbia Blu-ray collection:681 DVD collection:112 Blu-ray reviews:1	I preordered Jarman set from Base but when I search their site I can't find it anywhere. It's also no longer listed on Zavvi. Anyone has any clue, what's going on? It's still available at Amazon UK but way too overpriced!

03-31-2018, 05:18 AM	#4688
sjt Power Member Member since:Sep 2012 Location:London	It is still listed on Zavvi, but showing as "Sold Out" and therefore no longer orderable (mine is still in place, it seems). Clearly it's going to miss any of its announced release dates, including this coming Monday's (according to Amazon). But it will appear sooner or later, whenever the BFI sorts out whatever problems they've encountered, about which they're keeping very tight-lipped...

03-31-2018, 11:55 AM	#4697
Aunt Peg Blu-ray Duke Member since:May 2013 Location:Sydney 4K collection:164 Blu-ray collection:4854 DVD collection:517	I pre-ordered my Jarman set from Amazon and just received an advice that it has shipped.

03-31-2018, 04:38 PM	#4699
Eibon Power Member Member since:Nov 2013 DVD collection:327	They had the Jarman set in Tower Records today. Disappointed to see it has slim blue DVD cases as the imagery suggested it'd be a nice digipack but of course the content is what's important. Just looks a bit of a missed opportunity for classy packaging.

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