Avengers: Infinity War (2018) - SPOILER THREAD

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by Groot

How does that work? Are they getting a team to fix the original verse or ...?

I haven’t read any comics that do this so...?

Do what?

[Groot]

Originally Posted by mwynn

Do what?

Multiverse situations. How does that fix the deaths in the main one?

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by Groot

How does that work? Are they getting a team to fix the original verse or ...?

I haven’t read any comics that do this so...?

Alternative universes in comics is all over the place. Even the characters get confused...

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by Groot

Multiverse situations. How does that fix the deaths in the main one?

Oh, well there are a few ways. Infinite Earths Infinite possibilities.
Do you watch Rick and Morty?

[karlpilkington4PM]

Originally Posted by mwynn

Oh, well there are a few ways. Infinite Earths Infinite possibilities.
Do you watch Rick and Morty?

yeah, watch Feige hit us with the Council of Reeds at some point with no FF reboot.

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by karlpilkington4PM

yeah, watch Feige hit us with the Council of Reeds at some point with no FF reboot.

That would be amazing.

[karlpilkington4PM]

Originally Posted by mwynn

That would be amazing.

I'm hopeful we'll eventually see it, but it probably won't happen for a good while. Assuming the Fox deal goes through, of course.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by mwynn

Oh, well there are a few ways. Infinite Earths Infinite possibilities.
Do you watch Rick and Morty?

If that’s what they are going with I hope we get a Pickle Tony.

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by Groot

Multiverse situations. How does that fix the deaths in the main one?

It all depends. They really don't, really. Alternative timelines and universes in Marvel comics is VERY convoluted. Especially when it comes to the X-Men. Some Marvel characters from the comics even traveled to the MCU. But uselessly, traveling into an alternative timeline or universe doesn't really change anything. Like there is a timeline where The Avengers were all killed off by the Sentinels, and there is another timeline where The Avengers never became Avengers and became mutant hunters instead. Basically, once you split a thread into two or three threads, there is no going back.

[kylor]

Finally saw this movie.

To point out: The spoilers, when reading them, sound totally stupid, when it's only words.

But you know MARVEL, has their way of making something stupid look cool, which was the case with this movie.

The only problem is - it's still stupid, regardless of how cool it looks.

Let me put it this way: Watching the movie after trusting the directors words and following the teases and spots, gives you a pretty shitty time. Watching the movie ignoring those morons' lies and the shitty promotional campaign, it's quite enjoyable, especially if you switch off that lil' ol' brain to most of what happens.

This movie actually has me split in two. It's a beautiful mess. That's the best way I can describe it.

I noticed a dip in the quality of MCU movies since Black Panther came out (holy hell what an abysmal film). I had hoped that Infinity War would make up for it. It half did, half didn't.

Thanos IS a cool villain, that much is certain. There's also very stunning visuals (part of the stupid cool stuff, y'know). The visuals and effects are probably what's keeping this movie from being worse than Thor 1 & 2, at least for me personally.

All in all, a decent movie, but FAR from perfect, considering the 10 year buildup for an average to low payoff. Underwhelming but entertaining.

If I could rate it (which I will when I can on a poll), I'd give it a 2/5 (rounded from 2.5, I was really split with this movie).

I still hold out SOME hope for the upcoming Ant Man & The Wasp, Captain Marvel, and of course, Avengers 4. Perhaps Spider-Man 2 as well if the next 3 MCU movies aren't that bad.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

It all depends. They really don't, really. Alternative timelines and universes in Marvel comics is VERY convoluted. Especially when it comes to the X-Men. Some Marvel characters from the comics even traveled to the MCU. But uselessly, traveling into an alternative timeline or universe doesn't really change anything. Like there is a timeline where The Avengers were all killed off by the Sentinels, and there is another timeline where The Avengers never became Avengers and became mutant hunters instead. Basically, once you split a thread into two or three threads, there is no going back.

So why would they do that here? I doubt they’d want to technically leave 3 billion people dead in the main universe. Isn’t time travel using the stones the logical thing? Going full Harry Potter timeturner, Doctor Strange way? In the movie Strange sees all the scenarios and sees the one where they win and says there is no other way, it just takes years to play out every single situation until they get to the one where it’s fixed. Just like the sped up way Strange did it already in his film.

[Ant1010]

Kudos on being honest with your review Kylo.. so many mcu fanboys give all their products perfect ratings every time and it’s laughable.. they never admit the flaws and love to bash other franchises (X-men, dc etc).. for some reason I thought you were like that. I apologize.

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by Groot

So why would they do that here? I doubt they’d want to technically leave 3 billion people dead in the main universe. Isn’t time travel using the stones the logical thing? Going full Harry Potter timeturner, Doctor Strange way? In the movie Strange sees all the scenarios and sees the one where they win and says there is no other way, it just takes years to play out every single situation until they get to the one where it’s fixed. Just like the sped up way Strange did it already in his film.

I can only theorize. It all depends on what set of rules of "time-travel" the filmmakers want to go with in The Avengers 4. But like mwynn said, it could possibly be like Rick and Mortey. Like that episode where they f***'d up their universe and then they had to move into another universe that was exactly like their's.

[kylor]

Originally Posted by Ant1010

Kudos on being honest with your review Kylo.. so many mcu fanboys give all their products perfect ratings every time and it’s laughable.. they never admit the flaws and love to bash other franchises (X-men, dc etc).. for some reason I thought you were like that. I apologize.

No need for apologies.

All movies have flaws, anyone who doesn't think that is automatically wrong.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

I can only theorize. It all depends on what set of rules of "time-travel" the filmmakers want to go with in The Avengers 4. But like mwynn said, it could possibly be like Rick and Mortey. Like that episode where they f***'d up their universe and then they had to move into another universe that was exactly like their's.

If they stick to Doctor Strange it’s just a time reversal, correct?

The question is does it only affect the planet it’s being done on, cause if so Xandar, Loki, Asgard, Gamora will still be gone.

[CyberpunkCentral]

I just realize something... won't the events of this movie completely contradict the Netflix shows?

[kylor]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

I just realize something... won't the events of this movie completely contradict the Netflix shows?

Those are considered canon? Never seen them.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by kylor

Those are considered canon? Never seen them.

They repeatedly reference the film universe and are filled with Easter eggs. Newspapers, reports, off handed remarks, etc.

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by kylor

Those are considered canon? Never seen them.

I never considered them canon either, but most people do. So it will be interesting to see if this movie will finally have people separating the Marvel TV shows from the MCU.

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

I just realize something... won't the events of this movie completely contradict the Netflix shows?

The Netflix shows have secretly been in the fixed timeline all along. The battle of New York clearly still happens either way, so it wouldn't surprise me if that's what they do. I also have a strange feeling that the New York plan won't work. It'd be weird to just retcon the entire MCU past that point. THAT would be an actual middle finger.