Avengers: Infinity War (2018) - SPOILER THREAD

[Arawn]

A few thoughts:

* Well, now we know why Hawkeye wasn't featured in the marketing!

* Seeing it on the cover of my newspaper's weekend section reminded me of the shot from the trailer that had the Hulk in full green glory running into battle in Wakanda along with everyone else. The trailer was a lie! But I guess that's what you do if you don't want the audience to know that Banner will be suffering from the transformation equivalent of erectile dysfunction for almost the entire damn movie...

* I have to agree with the general criticism that the Infinity Gauntlet deaths lack weight. But that's really the only major gripe I had.

* The local paper's resident movie reviewer gave the film two and a half stars. But he's a *****y old queen who hates fun.

[Spirit Zero]

Originally Posted by kylor

What if they didn't? I mean, what if they just don't reverse things at all, but instead, they switch to the alternate universe where Thanos lost, and live there? That'd still keep the deaths from Infinity War relevant, technically.

Any way you look at it, having all the characters come back to life will just make this movie redundant.

The fact we know they'll all be back just makes it even worse. There is literally no tension here whatsoever, of course they'll be back, so who cares about this

I'm just amazed they went down this route, such a basic mistake for a movie. This is something I'd expect to see in the original X-Men trilogy.

[Britbuffguy]

Isnt everyone dying and being brought back to life ripped right out of the comic book? I mean, did you people hate the source material too?

[Ant1010]

Originally Posted by Sabre95

When it comes to people and the "sequels for characters are coming, they're not going to really be dead" I get why you wouldn't like the ending, but what we don't know what's coming next still leaves a lot of heroes on the table to really be killed off. We don't know what's coming after Avengers 4 other than Guardians 3 and Spider-Man 2, which leaves a lot of heroes in limbo. I'd be surprised if Cap and/or Iron Man make it out of the next one alive.

Gotg2, sm2, dr strange 2 and bp2 have all been announced.. so

Star Lord
Drax
Manthis
Groot
Dr. Strange
Spider-Man Man
Black Panther

are 100% coming back without even a thought about it. Bucky, Falcon, Scarlet Witch, Maria Hill and Fury are the only questionable ones. and lets face it they're most likely coming back as well. I have a feeling all these characters get brought back in the second act of A4 and then if the writers want them dead they will die towards the ending for good.

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by Spirit Zero

Its pretty odd if you me, dare I say stupid.

Everyone expected certain characters to die because certain actors are leaving the franchise, yet they didn't die (which is just as odd as Leia not dying in The Last Jedi).

Then virtually everyone else dies but as we all know most will be back, so the stakes are completely non-existent. Is Spider-Man or Black Panther dead? I highly doubt it, so this movie means nothing.

Seems more like a total cop out if you ask me. Of course if they are all really dead, that would be ballsy, but I doubt it.

That is what people are expecting to happen by the time both of these new Avengers films are done (this one and the one next year). Odds are the people who died before Thanos got all of the stones and caused people to start disappearing/disintegrating will remain dead.

Even in the like event that all of the people who disappeared are brought back, it doesn't mean that no one will die permanently after that.

It's been known for quite some time that instead of just one Avengers film, there are going to be two a year apart from each other which collectively serve as the big climax/finale to everything that the MCU has been building to up to this point, and that all of the major actors are signed up for both of them. So if they do occur, any permanent deaths along those lines won't happen until the next film.


As for Leia, they didn't kill her because they never filmed a death for her.... and what they did film had her alive and in a fairly major role all throughout the movie right up until the end, because they had no idea that Carrie Fisher was going to die when filming that. They weren't going to do reshoots for that, and the only other way to do it would have been to shoe-horn it in there unceremoniously, and then crappily edit her character out of the rest of the movie. As far as I'm concerned they made the best choice they could in that regard under the circumstances.

[enenra]

Originally Posted by WestMan

At this point the majority of people who have died have upcoming movies. That means no danger.

We have no clue who will die for real in Avengers 4. I hope a few characters do. And if that happens... it will be a first for this saga... where there is true danger with consequences for the main characters.

yes they have movies, but there is no confirmation their movies are set AFTER the events of this movie.

I am almost certain that the upcoming movies before A4, will all be set BEFORE infinity war.
Meaning we wont know who stays perma dead or not until Avengers 4.

Marvel always make movies, then movies after that are set before etc.
Announced movies before A4 does not automatically mean "Well these sequels confirm they dont die"

[DouglasJ]

With what the soul stone does in the comics, I'm convinced no one killed by the snap is actually dead. They won't need resurrected because they never died.

They're just elsewhere.

[WestMan]

Originally Posted by enenra

yes they have movies, but there is no confirmation their movies are set AFTER the events of this movie.

I am almost certain that the upcoming movies before A4, will all be set BEFORE infinity war.
Meaning we wont know who stays perma dead or not until Avengers 4.

Marvel always make movies, then movies after that are set before etc.
Announced movies before A4 does not automatically mean "Well these sequels confirm they dont die"

There is zero chance they will do a GOTG prequel after killing them off on screen. There is zero chance they will do a Spider-Man prequel after killing him off on screen.

Have they ever killed a character off and then done a prequel yet? They may have but I can't think of one. And they aren't going to do that with major film franchises.

[username2017]

Loved it. Well done.

[Ant1010]

Originally Posted by enenra

yes they have movies, but there is no confirmation their movies are set AFTER the events of this movie.

I am almost certain that the upcoming movies before A4, will all be set BEFORE infinity war.
Meaning we wont know who stays perma dead or not until Avengers 4.

Marvel always make movies, then movies after that are set before etc.
Announced movies before A4 does not automatically mean "Well these sequels confirm they dont die"

The only other MCU film coming next year before Avengers 4 is Captain Marvel.

[D00mM4r1n3]

So, is Nick Fury a pimp for having Captain Marvel on his pager?

[SarahS]

Originally Posted by RodChester

Resolving a cliffhanger doesn’t make it pointless. Is Han being frozen in carbonate at the end of Empire pointless because he is freed in Jedi?

Epic fail for that comparison.

[enenra]

Originally Posted by Ant1010

The only other MCU film coming next year before Avengers 4 is Captain Marvel.

Which is set in the 90s.
So yeah, what is everyone complaining about then? haha


Finding a resolution to a cliffhanger problem is not an issue at all.
Plus, if Marvel had made it look like no one had died in this, that would also be getting complained about. Probably even more so than this.

Really, they cant win tbh.

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by enenra

Really, they cant win tbh.

They already won, some will just not accept it. That is okay though. Enjoy what you enjoy.

[RustinCohle]

Originally Posted by ITDEFX101

I did see it, buy you never finished your question......"WHY is Gamora?!" ....WHY WHAT?!??!!?

Originally Posted by ITDEFX101

Honestly some of the dialog was kinda muffled in some scenes at my theater IMAX viewing. I may have missed that or just didn't care for that piece of dialog.

It was the biggest joke, at least in my theater. People laughed louder for that than the Squidward joke, or any of the Thor being a god banter on the GotG ship.

[Ant1010]

Originally Posted by enenra

Which is set in the 90s.
So yeah, what is everyone complaining about then? haha


Finding a resolution to a cliffhanger problem is not an issue at all.
Plus, if Marvel had made it look like no one had died in this, that would also be getting complained about. Probably even more so than this.

Really, they cant win tbh.

Yeah but Captain Marvel wasn't in this film lol. Avengers 4 isn't set in the 90s youre not making any sense dude. If Dr. Strange 2 or Black Panther 2 was coming out before Avengers 4 than yes I can agree with you. Captain Marvel will most likely be like Wonder Woman, an origins story ending in current time.

[BluRayHiDef]

Just got back from Lincoln Square 13, where I saw the film in IMAX 3D (real IMAX, not LieMax), and was - well, obviously - blown away. It was an amazing cinematic experience and features the best realized and most realistic digitally-rendered character in the form of Thanos, thanks to photo-realistic computer rendering and an amazing performance by Josh Brolin. Having said that, the movie features tons of plot holes, in my opinion, such as...

• Thanos could have done what he wanted with only the Power Stone, the Reality Stone, and the Time Stone. The Power Stone could have enhanced the power of the Reality Stone such that Thanos could have wiped out half of the entire universe's population with a snap. As for the the Time Stone, having it in his possession would have prevented anyone else from reversing his universe-wide semi-depopulation.
• Doctor Strange could have used the Time Stone to reverse time to a point before Thanos even procured the first stone (the Power Stone) after Banner informed him about Thanos' plan. Afterwards, he could have used his foreknowledge to procure and hide the other stones. Heck, he could have rewound time to before Thanos was conceived and prevented him from coming into existence. The Time Stone is arguably the most powerful of the Infinity Stones, yet Dr. Strange didn't use it to his advantage, which made no sense.
• After Tony and Peter rescue Dr. Strange from Ebony Maw while on the spaceship of the Children of Thanos and blast Ebony Maw out into space, killing him, Dr. Strange insists that they all return to Earth. He then asks Tony whether or not he can reroute the ship back to Earth in order to prevent the Time Stone, which is on his person, from getting into Thanos' possession. However, Tony declines and insists that they head to Thanos. However, Dr. Strange didn't need to rely on Tony to get back to Earth; he could have simply opened a portal back to Earth, as opening portals is as easy as breathing to him.
• Vision is powered by an Infinity Stone (The Mind Stone), yet appeared to be so weak throughout the film; he could have simply used it to control the minds of Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight and make them commit suicide or do something else to his and Wanda's advantage/ benefit.
• Gamora could have simply suicided in order to prevent Thanos from learning the location of the Soul Stone after realizing that Thanos already had two stones and had officially begun his campaign to acquire all of the stones.
• In Ragnarok, Banner stated that he could not remember the two years that he spent as the Hulk while on Sakaar. However, in Infinity War, he remembers his interaction as the Hulk with Thanos. Bollocks.
• While fighting Thanos on Titan with the the Guardians, Spider-Man, and Iron-Man, Dr. Strange could have simply opened a portal near Thanos' left hand, the one on which Thanos wears the Infinity Gauntlet, and closed it over said hand in order to cut it off, just as he did to Black Dwarf/ Cull Obsidian.
• How did Captain America know that Wanda and Vision were in Scotland? Not only that, how did he know exactly where they were when they were being attacked by Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight?
• How could Tony, Dr. Strange, and Peter breathe on the spaceship of the Children of Thanos and on Thanos' home-planet, Titan?
• How was Peter's web able to subdue Thanos' right arm considering that Thanos was strong enough to defeat the Hulk? There were some serious power-scaling issues in this movie. During the fight on Titan, only Dr. Strange and Mantis should have been able to effectively subdue Thanos. All of the others should have been killed with one blow each. Heck, all of them could have been killed with a mere burst of energy from the Power Stone or wished away via the Reality Stone. Very Stupid.

This movie requires the greatest level of suspension of disbelief and that's in regard to its own narrative logic (or lack thereof). Having said that, it's still quite an impressive film, and I love it. 10/10. By the way, this isn't a review; I'm currently writing one (though I don't know if I'll make it into a video).

[Ender14]

Originally Posted by WestMan

There is zero chance they will do a GOTG prequel after killing them off on screen. There is zero chance they will do a Spider-Man prequel after killing him off on screen.

Have they ever killed a character off and then done a prequel yet? They may have but I can't think of one. And they aren't going to do that with major film franchises.

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[aneed123]

I think folk over analyze it too much. If u a comic head u know they die and get wished back. It is what it is. Its great to see all this on screen with todays technology and not cheesy. The movie was great. If the only complaint is folk dying but we know they coming back due to them having scheduled movies that tells a lot lol. Anyway loved the chemistry between Thor and the guardians and the back and forth with quill and Ironman. They did kinda cheat having Black Widow hanging in there combat wise with ole girl from the black order. I wonder how Ironman heals from that impalement

[Britbuffguy]

Originally Posted by SarahS

Epic fail for that comparison.

Stakes aren't as high with Han. The Avengers are dead. For now.