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Old 04-27-2018, 05:17 PM   #841
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Not to mention I'm quite sure it takes all the power of the stones together to do what he did. The power or reality stone alone wouldn't cut it basically to wipe out half of every living thing in existence.
Dude's been asking tons of nitpicking questions but never responded to any of my answers lol. Some people just wanna complain.
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:21 PM   #842
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If it's anything like the comic.. Adam Warlock will be in the next movie and cast a spell and send everyone back to reality. Everyone touting this as being good because of real stakes...
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:27 PM   #843
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This is incredible, people are so shook.

They dropped a big ass cliffhanger and people have to wait a year to find out what happens. People are passing out, getting angry, and using headcanon to fill the void.

Even though I read the book this ending got me all riled up.
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:29 PM   #844
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Batman would have used his detective skills to find all the stones quickly and then invent a gadget to stop Thanos
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:29 PM   #845
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:31 PM   #846
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Movie was entertaining. Just read the book. Not a big deal to kil off half thr universe when it can be reversed. Deaths shouldnt be that emotional if anyone read the book.

Dr. Strange was awesome in this!
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:33 PM   #847
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It's obvious that things will be reversed, but the way it was done for the time being was emotional and highly effective. That's what I appreciate more than permanent deaths
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:34 PM   #848
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Yeah, I noticed that too. The timeline is completely F'd up at this point. Sometimes previous movies are referenced as taking place in the year they were released(Civil War referencing Iron Man as 8 years earlier, Guardians of the Galaxy saying 26 years later after 1988, Doctor Strange showing a plaque given to him in 2016). Other times we get a confusing "8 Years Later" card in Spider-Man: Homecoming right after a scene set directly after The Avengers, despite Homecoming clearly taking place no more than a year after Civil War.
The Russo Brothers admitted the time referenced in Spider-Man: Homecoming was a mistake.

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/04/...ming-timeline/
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He couldn't even lift Thor's Hammer........... he wasn't worthy.....do you think Hulk could have wield the IG?
Lifting Thor's hammer requires a pure heart. However, wielding an Infinity Stone merely requires power and resilience.
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:36 PM   #850
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I am not mad that character's died. I just consider them transported to another dimension. If they died, I would think they would have exploded like what happened with the Power Stone.

Gamora's death, even though I read the spoiler but didn't see the leaked footage really hit me hard. Had they killed Nebula, I don't think it would have had an emotional impact since she was a "villian" compared to Gamora. The writers did a really good job showing the connection between her and Thanos.

There have been stories were the villian realizes he is making a big mistake and stops it to protect the one's they love or care about. Makes you wonder if the Soul stone did not required a loved one and instead Thanos killed Red Skull, how would that change things? What if Gamora was the one who turned to dust infront of Thanos? Would he then realize what he did cost him even more?
The emotional scenes were with Gamora/Thanos and Scarlett Witch/Vision and also because that element wasnt in the book.
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:41 PM   #851
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The emotional scenes were with Gamora/Thanos and Scarlett Witch/Vision and also because that element wasnt in the book.
Scarlet Witch was impressive at the end, made me love her even more. She's probably my favorite character in the MCU at this point.
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:41 PM   #852
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I am very sure there are deleted scenes or alternate scenes to the final battle.

This movie should be the first movie released on home video containing a full director's cut. There is an extended cut of Iron Man 1 that has been shown on FX channel...but no other cut has been released on home media.
Marvel doesn't do Extended cuts and they should did one for Age Of Ultron Director's Cut since it needs one and The Theatrical Version is a mess.
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:46 PM   #853
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[Show spoiler]Just got back from Lincoln Square 13, where I saw the film in IMAX 3D (real IMAX, not LieMax), and was - well, obviously - blown away. It was an amazing cinematic experience and features the best realized and most realistic digitally-rendered character in the form of Thanos, thanks to photo-realistic computer rendering and an amazing performance by Josh Brolin. Having said that, the movie features tons of plot holes, in my opinion, such as...
  • Thanos could have done what he wanted with only the Power Stone, the Reality Stone, and the Time Stone. The Power Stone could have enhanced the power of the Reality Stone such that Thanos could have wiped out half of the entire universe's population with a snap. As for the the Time Stone, having it in his possession would have prevented anyone else from reversing his universe-wide semi-depopulation.
  • Doctor Strange could have used the Time Stone to reverse time to a point before Thanos even procured the first stone (the Power Stone) after Banner informed him about Thanos' plan. Afterwards, he could have used his foreknowledge to procure and hide the other stones. Heck, he could have rewound time to before Thanos was conceived and prevented him from coming into existence. The Time Stone is arguably the most powerful of the Infinity Stones, yet Dr. Strange didn't use it to his advantage, which made no sense.
  • After Tony and Peter rescue Dr. Strange from Ebony Maw while on the spaceship of the Children of Thanos and blast Ebony Maw out into space, killing him, Dr. Strange insists that they all return to Earth. He then asks Tony whether or not he can reroute the ship back to Earth in order to prevent the Time Stone, which is on his person, from getting into Thanos' possession. However, Tony declines and insists that they head to Thanos. However, Dr. Strange didn't need to rely on Tony to get back to Earth; he could have simply opened a portal back to Earth, as opening portals is as easy as breathing to him.
  • Vision is powered by an Infinity Stone (The Mind Stone), yet appeared to be so weak throughout the film; he could have simply used it to control the minds of Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight and make them commit suicide or do something else to his and Wanda's advantage/ benefit.
  • Gamora could have simply suicided in order to prevent Thanos from learning the location of the Soul Stone after realizing that Thanos already had two stones and had officially begun his campaign to acquire all of the stones.
  • In Ragnarok, Banner stated that he could not remember the two years that he spent as the Hulk while on Sakaar. However, in Infinity War, he remembers his interaction as the Hulk with Thanos. Bollocks.
  • While fighting Thanos on Titan with the the Guardians, Spider-Man, and Iron-Man, Dr. Strange could have simply opened a portal near Thanos' left hand, the one on which Thanos wears the Infinity Gauntlet, and closed it over said hand in order to cut it off, just as he did to Black Dwarf/ Cull Obsidian.
  • How did Captain America know that Wanda and Vision were in Scotland? Not only that, how did he know exactly where they were when they were being attacked by Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight?
  • How could Tony, Dr. Strange, and Peter breathe on the spaceship of the Children of Thanos and on Thanos' home-planet, Titan?
  • How was Peter's web able to subdue Thanos' right arm considering that Thanos was strong enough to defeat the Hulk? There were some serious power-scaling issues in this movie. During the fight on Titan, only Dr. Strange and Mantis should have been able to effectively subdue Thanos. All of the others should have been killed with one blow each. Heck, all of them could have been killed with a mere burst of energy from the Power Stone or wished away via the Reality Stone. Very Stupid.

This movie requires the greatest level of suspension of disbelief and that's in regard to its own narrative logic (or lack thereof). Having said that, it's still quite an impressive film, and I love it. 10/10. By the way, this isn't a review; I'm currently writing one (though I don't know if I'll make it into a video).
I wouldn't regard many of these as "plot holes" per se, but I'll try to tackle a couple for fun:
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[*]Doctor Strange could have used the Time Stone to reverse time to a point before Thanos even procured the first stone (the Power Stone) after Banner informed him about Thanos' plan. Afterwards, he could have used his foreknowledge to procure and hide the other stones. Heck, he could have rewound time to before Thanos was conceived and prevented him from coming into existence. The Time Stone is arguably the most powerful of the Infinity Stones, yet Dr. Strange didn't use it to his advantage, which made no sense.
To my knowledge, nothing has established how far back or forward the Time Stone can go as far as Strange is able to wield it.
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[*]After Tony and Peter rescue Dr. Strange from Ebony Maw while on the spaceship of the Children of Thanos and blast Ebony Maw out into space, killing him, Dr. Strange insists that they all return to Earth. He then asks Tony whether or not he can reroute the ship back to Earth in order to prevent the Time Stone, which is on his person, from getting into Thanos' possession. However, Tony declines and insists that they head to Thanos. However, Dr. Strange didn't need to rely on Tony to get back to Earth; he could have simply opened a portal back to Earth, as opening portals is as easy as breathing to him.
Again, we don't know the extent of his power. We've never seen him portal anywhere beyond Earth.
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[*]Gamora could have simply suicided in order to prevent Thanos from learning the location of the Soul Stone after realizing that Thanos already had two stones and had officially begun his campaign to acquire all of the stones.
I mean, when it came down to it, she tried and was stopped.
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[*]In Ragnarok, Banner stated that he could not remember the two years that he spent as the Hulk while on Sakaar. However, in Infinity War, he remembers his interaction as the Hulk with Thanos. Bollocks.
That may just be an effect of long-term transformation. If I remember right he's able to remember fights in the rest of the movies soon after they happen and he wasn't Hulk for long when he fought Thanos.
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[*]How did Captain America know that Wanda and Vision were in Scotland? Not only that, how did he know exactly where they were when they were being attacked by Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight?
She was on R&R but you don't think they'd keep tabs on her?
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[*]How could Tony, Dr. Strange, and Peter breathe on the spaceship of the Children of Thanos and on Thanos' home-planet, Titan?
Nothing saying there was no oxygen in any of these places. In fact, the goal was to keep Strange alive as prisoner until the Time Stone could be removed, so that wouldn't be very smart to suffocate him. Plus, we've seen enough planets in GotG to just take for granted that where they visit has breathable air. It's just as much of a stretch as assuming they don't.

Now all that said, I kept thinking they could try to dismember him at any point or have Vision/Scarlet Witch focus energy at any one of the stones on the gauntlet (although that second idea clearly requires some heavy focus and a straight shot).
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:49 PM   #854
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I am not mad that character's died. I just consider them transported to another dimension. If they died, I would think they would have exploded like what happened with the Power Stone.

Gamora's death, even though I read the spoiler but didn't see the leaked footage really hit me hard. Had they killed Nebula, I don't think it would have had an emotional impact since she was a "villian" compared to Gamora. The writers did a really good job showing the connection between her and Thanos.

There have been stories were the villian realizes he is making a big mistake and stops it to protect the one's they love or care about. Makes you wonder if the Soul stone did not required a loved one and instead Thanos killed Red Skull, how would that change things? What if Gamora was the one who turned to dust infront of Thanos? Would he then realize what he did cost him even more?
Those great emotional scenes were with Gamora/Thanos and Scarlett Witch/Vision and also because that element wasnt in the book.

Highlights of the movie:
1. Dr Strange
2. Thanos
3. Thanos’s creepy telepathy goon
4. Gamora and Scarlett Witch giving the film serious emotions
5. Thor and Rocket
6. Loki still being heroic

Disappointments:
1. They barely showed regular human beings getting affected. Some nyc city scenes but that’s it.
2. The evaporation of characters wasnt epic enough and should have shown more beings from many planets evaporating - at least from the worlds we have seen in Guardians. If they had evaporated Stan Lee’s character, that would have gotten to me.
3. Steve Rogers was excellent but wasnt used enough
4. Bruce Banner with head out of Hulkbuster looked like ridiculous cgi
5. Winter Soldier and Steve still not connecting as well as they did in First Avenger

Still damn entertaining but nowhere as balanced as Winter Soldier and Black Panther. Killmonger still at number 1. Thanos coming in second.
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:53 PM   #855
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Yeah the Hulkbuster Ruffalo CGI wasn't great, but they've been botching the exposed heads out of Iron Man suits for quite a few movies now. They need to move back to the chest piece they originally used.

I'll also second that the Thanos CGI was overall extremely impressive. I was worried because at the beginning of the movie, him picking up Loki by the throat paralleled some of the horrible mess that in Black Panther.
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The Russo Brothers admitted the time referenced in Spider-Man: Homecoming was a mistake.

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/04/...ming-timeline/
But how does that slip through the cracks like that? A bunch of us peon masses in the theater realized right away that was a mistake. No one at Marvel or Disney ever noticed before the film was released that they may wanna change that to "5 YEARS LATER"? Or actually it could be 4 since that part of the film takes place during the events of Civil War.
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But how does that slip through the cracks like that? A bunch of us peon masses in the theater realized right away that was a mistake. No one at Marvel or Disney ever noticed before the film was released that they may wanna change that to "5 YEARS LATER"? Or actually it could be 4 since that part of the film takes place during the events of Civil War.
I agree, it is a huge oversight on the part of Marvel. But at least they admitted it was a mistake and that the original timeline is correct.
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But how does that slip through the cracks like that? A bunch of us peon masses in the theater realized right away that was a mistake. No one at Marvel or Disney ever noticed before the film was released that they may wanna change that to "5 YEARS LATER"? Or actually it could be 4 since that part of the film takes place during the events of Civil War.
Probably Sony's fault lol
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Those great emotional scenes were with Gamora/Thanos and Scarlett Witch/Vision and also because that element wasnt in the book.

Highlights of the movie:
1. Dr Strange
2. Thanos
3. Thanos’s creepy telepathy goon
4. Gamora and Scarlett Witch giving the film serious emotions
5. Thor and Rabbit
6. Loki still being heroic

Disappointments:
1. They barely showed regular human beings getting affected. Some nyc city scenes but that’s it.
2. The evaporation of characters wasnt epic enough and should have shown more beings from many planets evaporating - at least from the worlds we have seen in Guardians. If they had evaporated Stan Lee’s character, that would have gotten to me.
3. Steve Rogers was excellent but wasnt used enough
4. Bruce Banner with head out of Hulkbuster looked like ridiculous cgi
5. Winter Soldier and Steve still not connecting as well as they did in First Avenger

Still damn entertaining but nowhere as balanced as Winter Soldier and Black Panther. Killmonger still at number 1. Thanos coming in second.
I feel like Loki would do anything to save his own ass. He is all tough talk but if you pull him by the ear, he will cry like a baby.

Yes I agree there should have been more of a global effect instead of just keeping things on the Avengers....I mean for the most part the only time we saw someone was in the city.... Where the hell was the military or the police when Maw and the bigger dude (name escapes me) arrived?

Like I said before Gamora's death hit me hard maybe because I have a daughter as well. I don't think I have ever seen a movie where a character will kill their own child just to gain more power. Has there been anything like this before?

I think if Stan Lee got ashed, it should be with him saying something memorable. Good grief if some scene like that did happened, and then he died in real life..... it would make his death scene just as emotional as Gamora's. Holy shit when I think about her scene I am actually crying.

I truly wonder how they filmed that scene and if the rest of the cast knew about how she died compared to what the characters reacted after finding out she died....
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Yeah the Hulkbuster Ruffalo CGI wasn't great, but they've been botching the exposed heads out of Iron Man suits for quite a few movies now. They need to move back to the chest piece they originally used.

I'll also second that the Thanos CGI was overall extremely impressive. I was worried because at the beginning of the movie, him picking up Loki by the throat paralleled some of the horrible mess that in Black Panther.
You could tell a LOT and I mean A LOT of effort was put into his face and upper body and I am sure they motion captured every part of JB performance. Just seeing him cry...I could see that tear all the way from the back of the theater where I was sitting.
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