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Old 05-08-2018, 04:35 PM   #3061
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Even IF Loki did tell Thanos who Tony is, what makes Tony so special out of everyone in the group?
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:38 PM   #3062
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Even IF Loki did tell Thanos who Tony is, what makes Tony so special out of everyone in the group?
Good question, I could see if he were the leader of the Avengers, but he isn't. What exactly makes Cap the leader and not Tony? Like the scene in AoU when he says that Cap is the leader but he pays for and creates everything. Why isn't Tony the group leader?
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:40 PM   #3063
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Good question, I could see if he were the leader of the Avengers, but he isn't. What exactly makes Cap the leader and not Tony? Like the scene in AoU when he says that Cap is the leader but he pays for and creates everything. Why isn't Tony the group leader?
Because Captain America has experience leadership and strategy skills in battle. That's why he is the leader of The Avengers.
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:42 PM   #3064
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Because Captain America has experience leadership and strategy skills in battle. That's why he is the leader of The Avengers.
Aside from telling everyone what to do at the end of The Avengers it doesn't feel like he is the leader imo. I dunno, maybe it is just me.
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:43 PM   #3065
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Even IF Loki did tell Thanos who Tony is, what makes Tony so special out of everyone in the group?
Because Stark is the brains and the glue.

Here is the curse of Knowledge quote.

The Curse of Knowledge: when we are given knowledge, it is impossible to imagine what it's like to LACK that knowledge.

The real question is, did Thanos know about Tony before he got the soul stone.
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:45 PM   #3066
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Aside from telling everyone what to do at the end of The Avengers it doesn't feel like he is the leader imo. I dunno, maybe it is just me.
I guess it's because Robert Downey Jr. has a bigger presence as an actor. So in a way, you can see Robert Downey Jr. leading this franchise. But character and story wise, Captain America being the leader make perfect sense.
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:48 PM   #3067
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Tony was always the de facto leader of Movie Avengers, he just wasn't always a very good one. Cap has pretty much always had better ideas but Tony's flashier.
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:49 PM   #3068
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That moment between Tony and Thanos sticks out like a sore thumb to me, I hope they resolve it in Avengers4. The dynamic between Ironman and Captain A has been a long standing issue, and I wish they had had the cajones to kill off one of them (Tony) in the last film, but all the major multipicture Avengers survived conveniently. Loved the film, but it could have been just a tad more blood thirsty
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:50 PM   #3069
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Because Stark is the brains and the glue.

Here is the curse of Knowledge quote.

The Curse of Knowledge: when we are given knowledge, it is impossible to imagine what it's like to LACK that knowledge.

The real question is, did Thanos know about Tony before he got the soul stone.
I still don't see what relevance Tony brings to Thanos, though. It is possible that since Thanos can telepathy read minds, he probably knew that Tony was waiting for him. But still, they should have addressed it right then and there.
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:51 PM   #3070
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I don't know... he was confused when Dr. Strange said "we"
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Old 05-08-2018, 05:00 PM   #3071
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Either Loki told Thanos about Stark during A1 with their little talks or Thanos was popping in and out after Wanda showed him the future of destroying the Avengers. Stark did say Thanos was in his head for five years in IW.
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Either Loki told Thanos about Stark during A1 with their little talks or Thanos was popping in and out after Wanda showed him the future of destroying the Avengers. Stark did say Thanos was in his head for five years in IW.
Or Thanos has a spy on Earth. Or Thanos has cable.
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Old 05-08-2018, 05:03 PM   #3073
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Or Thanos has a spy on Earth. Or Thanos has cable.
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Old 05-08-2018, 05:03 PM   #3074
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Either Loki told Thanos about Stark during A1 with their little talks or Thanos was popping in and out after Wanda showed him the future of destroying the Avengers. Stark did say Thanos was in his head for five years in IW.
Which makes sense, since Thanos has telepathic abilities in the comics. Not as strong as Professor X's, but still.
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Old 05-08-2018, 05:05 PM   #3075
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Or Thanos has a spy on Earth. Or Thanos has cable.
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Old 05-08-2018, 05:09 PM   #3076
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When would Loki have told him? He didn't know who Tony was til after he came to invade Earth in Avengers 1 and I don't think Loki ever saw Thanos between then and Infinity War.
There's this mystical thing in the Marvel universe called "radio waves". So if you go on live tv and say "I am Iron Man", it keeps spreading out into the universe forever.

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Old 05-08-2018, 05:14 PM   #3078
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Because he's the biggest idiot of the bunch. It's in character for him to do something stupid without thinking it through.
I blame Mary Poppins...
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Old 05-08-2018, 05:17 PM   #3079
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The question is, is Thanos telepathically warning Tony of his coming so that The Avengers have ahead start in stopping him?
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Old 05-08-2018, 05:26 PM   #3080
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The question is, is Thanos telepathically warning Tony of his coming so that The Avengers have ahead start in stopping him?
Uh... no? Tony has had severe anxiety and PTSD since the New York attack. He knew whoever Loki was working for would be back, and stronger than ever. He's been working to try and beef up earths defenses, and panicking over his friends dying, ever since that day.
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