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Old 01-15-2009, 02:33 PM   #1
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Have you seen the movie? Because if you haven't yet, maybe you don't want people to share more about the ending.

I didn't really have a problem with it, other than I thought it was a cheap ending, but it kind of worked.

My biggest problem with the movie is that it's not really that original. In an interview, the guy who wrote the movie (whoever he is) said that Aronofsky gave him a copy of Beyond the Mat to watch, to get an idea on writing a movie.

So then is it a big surprise that most of the movie is basically based on Jake the Snake in Beyond the Mat? Fairly big-name wrestling star of the 80s, today is a nobody, had a bad relationship with his daughter (hadn't seen her in a long time, until meeting up with her in the documentary), had a drug problem, etc.

Rourke still should get credit for his acting job, and, even though it's not his best work, Aronofsky should get credit for actually getting the movie made with barely any money.

Yes, i saw the movie. No, it's not the most original movie ever, but geez, not every idea can be groundbreaking. The execution of that idea is another matter, and i think Aronofsky executed this movie perfectly. It's got the perfect vibe and the low-fi/no budget dynamic really works for this type of movie. The only people who are gonna know about Beyond the Mat and all that stuff are gonna be pretty hardcore wrestling fans anyways, and those people are gonna be thrilled with the way this movie was done. I just don't see joe six-pack complaining because this movie was too much like Beyond the Mat.

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mentioned this in other threads, but I thought it was the best film of 2008, and I saw pretty much everything being mentioned for best of w/ the exception of Slumdog Millionaire, which I will see within the next week or so.
It surpassed my expectations, and thought some scenes were funny, especially the one where the Ram is in a no-holds barred match and the guy takes the fork to his face..being an old-school wrestling fan from the 80's, I giggled myself silly, and thought it was pure bliss!..will be buying this on BD for sure
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Yes, i saw the movie. No, it's not the most original movie ever, but geez, not every idea can be groundbreaking. The execution of that idea is another matter, and i think Aronofsky executed this movie perfectly. It's got the perfect vibe and the low-fi/no budget dynamic really works for this type of movie. The only people who are gonna know about Beyond the Mat and all that stuff are gonna be pretty hardcore wrestling fans anyways, and those people are gonna be thrilled with the way this movie was done. I just don't see joe six-pack complaining because this movie was too much like Beyond the Mat.

"Use his leg, use his leg, use his leg!!!"
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I liked the movie. I'm not complaining that it's too much like Beyond the Mat. Instead I'm just saying I hope the writer doesn't get too much credit for writing a "great" movie, when he really didn't have to do too much.

Sure, writing dialogue can be a bit tricky (so I've heard), but Ram doesn't talk much, so that solves that problem. Plus, I could be wrong, but I think Rourke improvised most of his lines, using the script only as a sort of guide.

Rourke pretty much is the entire movie. Aronofsky did well, but it's certainly not his best work.
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The Wrestler finally opened up in Orlando today, I had the pleasure of not having class so I got to go see it. It was- ehhh... It was good, I can see the draw, I'm a HUGE Aronofsky fan, but it was missing that special "something"

Now I am wondering if spectacular acting can make a decent movie an oscar nod.

If the answer is yes, then I'm wondering if a decent script can make TERRIBLE acting (Gran Torino) an oscar nod.

hmm...
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The Wrestler finally opened up in Orlando today, I had the pleasure of not having class so I got to go see it. It was- ehhh... It was good, I can see the draw, I'm a HUGE Aronofsky fan, but it was missing that special "something"

Now I am wondering if spectacular acting can make a decent movie an oscar nod.

If the answer is yes, then I'm wondering if a decent script can make TERRIBLE acting (Gran Torino) an oscar nod.

hmm...
thats usually the case ! it looks good I just hope both wont be bust's like pineapple express was.
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There's like 20 mins at most give or take of just strict wrestling. I had high hopes for this movie and it was great.
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There's like 20 mins at most give or take of just strict wrestling. I had high hopes for this movie and it was great.
I think the wrestling parts were well done. I wasn't surprised to find out that Rourke really bladed himself during one of those matches.
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