The Incredibles 4K UHD (2004) - Page 30 - Blu-ray Forum

FilmFreakosaurus · 06-05-2018, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

You can't just flip back and forth without adjustment. The volume can be dramatically different on each track.

It doesn't seem to just be a matter of volume level discrepancy. They've muted the surround activity, the bass, the dynamics... everything. I wouldn't be surprised if this was another Atmos print-out either.

aetherhole · 06-05-2018, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by IXOYE1989

Is it worth the upgrade for visuals alone compared to the previous BD?

Fans of the film, yes it’s a no brainer. The original audio mix is on the UHD so at least you can select that and enjoy the visual upgrades.

Dubstar · 06-05-2018, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by aetherhole

Fans of the film, yes it’s a no brainer. The original audio mix is on the UHD so at least you can select that and enjoy the visual upgrades.

'original' meaning DTS-ES ??

aetherhole · 06-05-2018, 06:43 PM

Ummm yes you can. Level correcting once you switch alleviates volume differences. The dynamics are not the same though.

Why are we arguing this anyway? This is the easiest title we have to date to do the quickest test back and forth to hear the difference!

aetherhole · 06-05-2018, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubstar

'original' meaning DTS-ES ??

Yes the DTS ES mix is on the UHD

kevin87 · 06-05-2018, 06:45 PM

Surprisingly my WM had this, yet still don't have Black Panther 4k and didn't have A Wrinkle In Time 4K either... probably still trying to push those lame BD only 'exclusives'.

The Incredibles was on the side of the new releases endcap where the 4K releases are, but it was empty so I asked them since wm.com said it was in stock and at first the lady was like "The Incredibles hasn't even came out in theaters yet" clearly talking about the sequel so I said I was looking for the first one in 4K and she said "oh we might have those in boxes in the back" and asked another lady there and that lady said "Yeah I think they are, but I don't know if we can sell them yet" so I pulled it up on my phone and showed that it came out today and that it was buyable online so she went to the back and got it. If WM wasn't the only close option for me, I'd never go to this stupid store again.

For the price that Disney has 4K as, you'd think they'd at least provide a tray for each disc. Stacked discs is a ridiculous concept.

cynatnite · 06-05-2018, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin87

Surprisingly my WM had this, yet still don't have Black Panther 4k and didn't have A Wrinkle In Time 4K either... probably still trying to push those lame BD only 'exclusives'.

The Incredibles was on the side of the new releases endcap where the 4K releases are, but it was empty so I asked them since wm.com said it was in stock and at first the lady was like "The Incredibles hasn't even came out in theaters yet" clearly talking about the sequel so I said I was looking for the first one in 4K and she said "oh we might have those in boxes in the back" and asked another lady there and that lady said "Yeah I think they are, but I don't know if we can sell them yet" so I pulled it up on my phone and showed that it came out today and that it was buyable online so she went to the back and got it. If WM wasn't the only close option for me, I'd never go to this stupid store again.

Our wm had plenty of Hurricane Heist, but not one Incredibles anywhere. Plus they remodeled that whole electronics section. Looks almost like Best Buy.

Got the steelbook at BB anyway.

DJJez · 06-05-2018, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aetherhole

Ummm yes you can. Level correcting once you switch alleviates volume differences. The dynamics are not the same though.

Why are we arguing this anyway? This is the easiest title we have to date to do the quickest test back and forth to hear the difference!

So the dts hd ma is way more impressive???

FilmFreakosaurus · 06-05-2018, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubstar

'original' meaning DTS-ES ??

Yes. You have to use a modern upmixer, however. Most older DTS ES or Dolby EX matrix tracks are no longer flagged.

Bdsje3 · 06-05-2018, 06:59 PM

Does the Blu-ray (Movie Disc) have new trailers like Incredibles 2 on the beginning of the disc or still the 2011 Trailers such as Cars 2.

FilmFreakosaurus · 06-05-2018, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJez

So the dts hd ma is way more impressive???

Yes. This is another example of a soundbar or family-friendly home mix on a track that should be spectacular, namely the Dolby Atmos track.

Bdsje3 · 06-05-2018, 07:02 PM

& Can someone show a Picture of the Menu of the 4K Disc please.

Bdsje3 · 06-05-2018, 07:06 PM

& is the Disney logo the old logo or the new logo on the 4k disc.

MattPerdue · 06-05-2018, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bdsje3

& is the Disney logo the old logo or the new logo on the 4k disc.

It's the old Disney-Pixar castle.

Spaceman1251 · 06-05-2018, 07:12 PM

Has anybody asked James Gunn about Disney ruining home Atmos mixes? Isn’t he the one that started 4K and Atmos for Disney home releases? Maybe he could begin to make things better there, since he seems like such a cool dude, and he’s always talking to fans on social media. Maybe by talking to him about this, we could at least save Infinity War’s audio.

win200 · 06-05-2018, 07:14 PM

Is there some reason that this disc isn't showing up on Target's website? I thought the Disney distribution issues were confined to Amazon.

jh901 · 06-05-2018, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Yes. This is another example of a soundbar or family-friendly home mix on a track that should be spectacular, namely the Dolby Atmos track.

The "family-friendly" or "soundbar" rationale is speculation, right? I mean, clearly there is a team at Disney home video who's making the worst decisions possible, but where has it been confirmed that they are attempting to appease some consumers?

DJJez · 06-05-2018, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Yes. This is another example of a soundbar or family-friendly home mix on a track that should be spectacular, namely the Dolby Atmos track.

Better to play the DTS HD MA track and upmix with neural:X then choose the atmos

Bdsje3 · 06-05-2018, 07:23 PM

Dose the Blu-ray (Movie Disc) have new trailers or still the old trailers.

DJJez · 06-05-2018, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jh901

The "family-friendly" or "soundbar" rationale is speculation, right? I mean, clearly there is a team at Disney home video who's making the worst decisions possible, but where has it been confirmed that they are attempting to appease some consumers?

Release after release they continue to do this so all of us have guessed its for the kids and soundbar friendly. No other logic makes sense lol

06-05-2018, 06:45 PM	#586
kevin87 Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Alabama 4K collection:286 Blu-ray collection:1139 DVD collection:46 MA collection:278 Digital collection:216 iTunes collection:1 Trading Score:144	Surprisingly my WM had this, yet still don't have Black Panther 4k and didn't have A Wrinkle In Time 4K either... probably still trying to push those lame BD only 'exclusives'. The Incredibles was on the side of the new releases endcap where the 4K releases are, but it was empty so I asked them since wm.com said it was in stock and at first the lady was like "The Incredibles hasn't even came out in theaters yet" clearly talking about the sequel so I said I was looking for the first one in 4K and she said "oh we might have those in boxes in the back" and asked another lady there and that lady said "Yeah I think they are, but I don't know if we can sell them yet" so I pulled it up on my phone and showed that it came out today and that it was buyable online so she went to the back and got it. If WM wasn't the only close option for me, I'd never go to this stupid store again. For the price that Disney has 4K as, you'd think they'd at least provide a tray for each disc. Stacked discs is a ridiculous concept. Last edited by kevin87; 06-05-2018 at 06:50 PM.

06-05-2018, 06:43 PM	#584
aetherhole Special Member Member since:Nov 2015 Location:Tustin, CA 4K collection:492 Blu-ray collection:991 MA collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:1	Ummm yes you can. Level correcting once you switch alleviates volume differences. The dynamics are not the same though. Why are we arguing this anyway? This is the easiest title we have to date to do the quickest test back and forth to hear the difference!

06-05-2018, 06:59 PM	#590
Bdsje3 Banned Member since:Jun 2018	Does the Blu-ray (Movie Disc) have new trailers like Incredibles 2 on the beginning of the disc or still the 2011 Trailers such as Cars 2.

06-05-2018, 07:02 PM	#592
Bdsje3 Banned Member since:Jun 2018	& Can someone show a Picture of the Menu of the 4K Disc please.

06-05-2018, 07:06 PM	#593
Bdsje3 Banned Member since:Jun 2018	& is the Disney logo the old logo or the new logo on the 4k disc.

06-05-2018, 07:12 PM	#595
Spaceman1251 Junior Member Member since:Jun 2018 Location:NM	Has anybody asked James Gunn about Disney ruining home Atmos mixes? Isn’t he the one that started 4K and Atmos for Disney home releases? Maybe he could begin to make things better there, since he seems like such a cool dude, and he’s always talking to fans on social media. Maybe by talking to him about this, we could at least save Infinity War’s audio.

06-05-2018, 07:14 PM	#596
win200 Active Member Member since:Feb 2012 Location:Seattle, WA 4K collection:1441 Blu-ray collection:5153 DVD collection:25 Trading Score:49	Is there some reason that this disc isn't showing up on Target's website? I thought the Disney distribution issues were confined to Amazon.

06-05-2018, 07:23 PM	#599
Bdsje3 Banned Member since:Jun 2018	Dose the Blu-ray (Movie Disc) have new trailers or still the old trailers.

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