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Old 01-20-2009, 11:18 PM   #1
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If I were to buy the best Bluray on the market now and use Bitstream on a 806, would the sound be better than the PS3, LPCM on the 806?
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:24 PM   #2
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If I were to buy the best Bluray on the market now and use Bitstream on a 806, would the sound be better than the PS3, LPCM on the 806?
Bitstream is the best way to go for TrueHd. You are getting the audio in it's purest form. So the signal does not need to be converted to PCM. That's why they call it TrueHd because you are getting a True signal.
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Bitstream is the best way to go for TrueHd. You are getting the audio in it's purest form. So the signal does not need to be converted to PCM. That's why they call it TrueHd because you are getting a True signal.
...except once its "decoded" in the receiver, it is converted back into its original PCM format.

Dolby TrueHD and Dts-HD MA are encodes, basically to compress the PCM audio (Losslessly)...then uncompressed inside the player/receiver back into PCM.


So to say TrueHD is a "True" signal because its not converted into PCM, is wrong...because its all PCM to begin with.

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...except once its "decoded" in the receiver, it is back into its original PCM format.

Dolby TrueHD and Dts-HD MA are encodes, basically to compress the PCM audio (Losslessly)...then uncompressed inside the player/receiver back into PCM.


So to say TrueHD is a "True" signal because its not converted into PCM, is wrong...because its all PCM to begin with.
+1 Crackin, you are indeed the man! That's just what I was going to say man.
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:49 PM   #5
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Everyone has his or her own preference on either having the player or receiver do the decoding. For me, I really prefer the audio decoding done by the PS3. It not only decodes all lossless formats, but it's also a great music disc player, upsampling CDs and SACDs to 176.4 kHz / 24 bit. Discs sound really smooth and detailed through the PS3, and there is great bass response as well.
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:26 AM   #6
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Thanks....
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I wouldn't know but it is damn good.
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upsampling CDs and SACDs to 176.4 kHz / 24 bit.
Information on an SACD is at 2.8MHz, so resampling it to 176.4 kHz actually loses information, or downsamples it.

Granted the PS3's performance is still better than most SACD standalone players for PCM output as they output at 24/88.2, but a true DSD stream out (Pioneer Elite DV-48 and up, Oppo 980H, etc.) is the best way to go.

CD playback at 176.4 though is definitely a much smoother sound and I've begun relistening to older CD's I haven't listened to in years just because of how good the PS3 is.
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Information on an SACD is at 2.8MHz, so resampling it to 176.4 kHz actually loses information, or downsamples it.

Granted the PS3's performance is still better than most SACD standalone players for PCM output as they output at 24/88.2, but a true DSD stream out (Pioneer Elite DV-48 and up, Oppo 980H, etc.) is the best way to go.

CD playback at 176.4 though is definitely a much smoother sound and I've begun relistening to older CD's I haven't listened to in years just because of how good the PS3 is.
Obviously a true DSD stream would be the best way to go. I never said the PS3's LPCM output was better. I wish the PS3 bitstreamed DSD via HDMI, but it doesn't do it. My point was that the PS3 is a good all around machine for audio, since it handles multichannel SACDs, upsamples CDs, and decodes all the lossless Blu-ray soundtracks. Until the new Oppo player hits the market, the PS3 is the most "universal" universal player on the market since it's the only one handling Blu-ray and SACDs. I have a Yamaha DVD-S2500, which was their flagship universal player a couple of years ago. It's a great sounding player that does bitstream DSD. Unfortunately though, it's not a Blu-ray player. Comparing the two, I think the PS3 is very comparable on audio quality.
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Old 01-21-2009, 10:15 PM   #10
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How about console noise - I find it very disturbing
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i think it depends more on your receiver since most BD players can decode all the HD codecs anyways,

the only downfall of the ps3 is your receiver wont display like TrueHD or whatever on the front....

mine sounds great!
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