Predator 4K UHD (1987) 6th August 2018 - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

harpolini · 07-26-2018, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Indiana Jones

I am sure it will have the same old DTS-HD MA track but assuming they use the same 4K master that is available on AppleTV then it is far from the UHE with lots of lovely grain.

I've seen people mention it but never go super deep into how different/upgraded the iTunes 4K version is.

Is there alot fine detail or is it like the Die Hard 4K where it looks like the resolution maxes out leaving you with the impression of "this is all the detail this film stock holds."?

Also what about the blow-up shots, like when Arnold jumps into the river which looks horrid on all currently released transfers?

NDcowboy · 07-26-2018, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by harpolini

"this is all the detail this film stock holds."?

Yes, that is the impression we will have. But hoping it's a clear improvement upon what the 2008 release did right.

Yes the blow-up shots when falling into river will still look terrible and hopefully more out of place. As it should with each format upgrade. I may even recall seeing that effect on the VHS. No hope for upgrading those particular shots.

chuffster · 07-26-2018, 08:30 PM

Do you think the 'Get to the chopper' line will have it's sound corrected?Always had a strange hollow sound.

NDcowboy · 07-29-2018, 08:02 PM

I initially just wanted the individual release of Predator. However I hate that the cover doesn't feature Arnold, so I'm considering the 3 movie set instead for another ~$17.

Theta Sigma · 08-05-2018, 01:53 PM

The Capsaholic screenshots are up... I'm definitely getting it now! Been holding off pre-ordering until a review came out just in case they managed to screw it up again

Bearded80snerd · 08-05-2018, 02:45 PM

Anybody who has the trilogy set? Can you confirm if the other two movies look as good as the first?

NDcowboy · 08-05-2018, 08:51 PM

Just looked at the caps. The resolved grain and increased resolution looks good. However it looks like black crush increased. In cap 5 Carl Weathers' skin turns from brown(BD) to black(UHD). In cap 6 Arnold's sidearm disappears in the shadows on the UHD.

Can someone with a 4K setup please tell me that they didn't **** this up with a dark picture and black crush and that it's just a limitation of my non 4k screen.

Geoff D · 08-05-2018, 09:38 PM

You're seeing HDR converted into SDR with a not very nuanced conversion. Not saying that this UHD mightn't be dimmer in actuality, just bear that in mind. Same goes for any blown out highlights too.

NDcowboy · 08-06-2018, 12:18 AM

Thanks G. I figured the truth was somewhere in the middle. I'm pot committed on buying this release day anyway as I own it on VHS, UMD, DVD(2), BD(3), and LD..I think.

Theta Sigma · 08-07-2018, 06:19 PM

Now that it's out, can anyone confirm if the regular Blu-ray included has the newly remastered transfer or if it's a port from an old release? Thanks

chuffster · 08-07-2018, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theta Sigma

Now that it's out, can anyone confirm if the regular Blu-ray included has the newly remastered transfer or if it's a port from an old release? Thanks

Old release I'm afraid.

Theta Sigma · 08-08-2018, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chuffster

Old release I'm afraid.

Wow...Nice going Fox....

DMRI2006 · 08-08-2018, 01:59 PM

More talk about the Blu-Ray than the 4K in the 4K thread, lol.

They've already put PREDATOR out on Blu-Ray twice already. Probably don't feel a third dip is worth it at this point in time, regardless of how they erred on both of the earlier releases.

Martoto · 05-13-2019, 12:43 PM

Hey. I posted this guy's exploration of Escape From New York's score on that movie's UHD thread. So I thought I'd share his video on the Predator score here too.

MassiveMovieBuff · 05-13-2019, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DMRI2006

More talk about the Blu-Ray than the 4K in the 4K thread, lol.

They've already put PREDATOR out on Blu-Ray twice already. Probably don't feel a third dip is worth it at this point in time, regardless of how they erred on both of the earlier releases.

The initial blu ray release is actually quite solid. Not really sure why it gets so much hate honestly. Probably because it's "old". I watched it a few weeks ago and was really surprised by how well it's held up especially with an MPEG-2 encode. May not be quite as good as the UHD but definitely blows the horrid Hunter edition out of the water (that's not too hard to do though).

Bumblefeet · 05-20-2019, 04:46 PM

I received the Predator trilogy (1-2-predators) in 4K last week and I held off buying Predator since selling my DVD over the years because of the DNR debacle of previous releases.

I am truly stunned by the 4K versions of Predator 1 & 2. They are glorious to behold and I was marvelling at the shots and detail within the image. This is definitely reference material as far as I'm concerned.

One minor point with the Predator 4K disc; When I started to watch the movie, there were digital blocks visible in the opening credits; I thought 'oh crap', faulty disc, and took it out of my Xbox. Turned out to be a spot which I could clean but still, the physical disc looks cheap, it's almost see through!

Is this the same for the standalone release?

Geoff D · 05-20-2019, 05:32 PM

All BDs and UHDs are made from the same incredibly thin plastic layers, you just can't see through most of them because there's cover art on the other side

Bumblefeet · 05-20-2019, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

All BDs and UHDs are made from the same incredibly thin plastic layers, you just can't see through most of them because there's cover art on the other side

That's reassuring, thanks. Second viewing of the movie gave no issues. On to Predators.

Geoff D · 05-20-2019, 05:59 PM

I do find myself doing that though Bumble, I hold those 'see through' discs up to the light and marvel at how all this goodness can even be put onto such a fragile little thing.

fighthefutureofhd · 05-20-2019, 06:28 PM

I agree with you Geoff. And I have found myself doing that. But not with 4Ks or Blu-rays. More on the music side for me, which is far more fragile than a Blu-ray or 4K disc. I look at cds and vinyl and marvel at all that is put on there. Not to mention how it looks as it spins, what it took to get all that onto a disc or vinyl, and how intricate some of the artwork is. And how it is etched onto the disc as well. It ALL marvels me. I really am a sucker for the technical side of things in terms of production, equipment used, sets built, settings on the gear, process used in shooting on film, the mix/master boards, and all that good stuff. I really dig the bonus content on a disc.

Especially if it is a long documentary on the making of the movie and goes into great detail. I used to love reading all those making of a movie books that would come out to coincide with the movie. Fascinating stuff. I would love it if cd's and/or vinyl came with a bonus blu-ray/4K disc documenting the making of the record with all the in-studio processes and stuff. I would buy that in a heartbeat. There have some EPKs that came with the deluxe edition of cd's that has some footage, but it's not enough. I WANTS MORE!!!

07-26-2018, 08:30 PM	#43
chuffster Expert Member Member since:Apr 2011 Trading Score:2	Do you think the 'Get to the chopper' line will have it's sound corrected?Always had a strange hollow sound. Last edited by chuffster; 07-26-2018 at 08:37 PM.

07-29-2018, 08:02 PM	#44
NDcowboy Active Member Member since:Nov 2014 4K collection:11 Blu-ray collection:517 Blu-ray reviews:4	I initially just wanted the individual release of Predator. However I hate that the cover doesn't feature Arnold, so I'm considering the 3 movie set instead for another ~$17.

08-05-2018, 01:53 PM	#45
Theta Sigma Active Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2014 4K collection:811 Blu-ray collection:3844 DVD collection:382 Blu-ray reviews:1	The Capsaholic screenshots are up... I'm definitely getting it now! Been holding off pre-ordering until a review came out just in case they managed to screw it up again

08-05-2018, 02:45 PM	#46
Bearded80snerd Member Member since:Aug 2018	Anybody who has the trilogy set? Can you confirm if the other two movies look as good as the first?

08-05-2018, 08:51 PM	#47
NDcowboy Active Member Member since:Nov 2014 4K collection:11 Blu-ray collection:517 Blu-ray reviews:4	Just looked at the caps. The resolved grain and increased resolution looks good. However it looks like black crush increased. In cap 5 Carl Weathers' skin turns from brown(BD) to black(UHD). In cap 6 Arnold's sidearm disappears in the shadows on the UHD. Can someone with a 4K setup please tell me that they didn't **** this up with a dark picture and black crush and that it's just a limitation of my non 4k screen.

08-05-2018, 09:38 PM	#48
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1347 Blu-ray collection:2524 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	You're seeing HDR converted into SDR with a not very nuanced conversion. Not saying that this UHD mightn't be dimmer in actuality, just bear that in mind. Same goes for any blown out highlights too.

08-06-2018, 12:18 AM	#49
NDcowboy Active Member Member since:Nov 2014 4K collection:11 Blu-ray collection:517 Blu-ray reviews:4	Thanks G. I figured the truth was somewhere in the middle. I'm pot committed on buying this release day anyway as I own it on VHS, UMD, DVD(2), BD(3), and LD..I think.

08-07-2018, 06:19 PM	#50
Theta Sigma Active Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2014 4K collection:811 Blu-ray collection:3844 DVD collection:382 Blu-ray reviews:1	Now that it's out, can anyone confirm if the regular Blu-ray included has the newly remastered transfer or if it's a port from an old release? Thanks

08-08-2018, 01:59 PM	#53
DMRI2006 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Apr 2009 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:215	More talk about the Blu-Ray than the 4K in the 4K thread, lol. They've already put PREDATOR out on Blu-Ray twice already. Probably don't feel a third dip is worth it at this point in time, regardless of how they erred on both of the earlier releases.

05-20-2019, 04:46 PM	#56
Bumblefeet Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Apr 2013 4K collection:100 Blu-ray collection:827	I received the Predator trilogy (1-2-predators) in 4K last week and I held off buying Predator since selling my DVD over the years because of the DNR debacle of previous releases. I am truly stunned by the 4K versions of Predator 1 & 2. They are glorious to behold and I was marvelling at the shots and detail within the image. This is definitely reference material as far as I'm concerned. One minor point with the Predator 4K disc; When I started to watch the movie, there were digital blocks visible in the opening credits; I thought 'oh crap', faulty disc, and took it out of my Xbox. Turned out to be a spot which I could clean but still, the physical disc looks cheap, it's almost see through! Is this the same for the standalone release?

05-20-2019, 05:32 PM	#57
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1347 Blu-ray collection:2524 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	All BDs and UHDs are made from the same incredibly thin plastic layers, you just can't see through most of them because there's cover art on the other side

05-20-2019, 05:59 PM	#59
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1347 Blu-ray collection:2524 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	I do find myself doing that though Bumble, I hold those 'see through' discs up to the light and marvel at how all this goodness can even be put onto such a fragile little thing.

05-20-2019, 06:28 PM	#60
fighthefutureofhd Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Dry County	I agree with you Geoff. And I have found myself doing that. But not with 4Ks or Blu-rays. More on the music side for me, which is far more fragile than a Blu-ray or 4K disc. I look at cds and vinyl and marvel at all that is put on there. Not to mention how it looks as it spins, what it took to get all that onto a disc or vinyl, and how intricate some of the artwork is. And how it is etched onto the disc as well. It ALL marvels me. I really am a sucker for the technical side of things in terms of production, equipment used, sets built, settings on the gear, process used in shooting on film, the mix/master boards, and all that good stuff. I really dig the bonus content on a disc. Especially if it is a long documentary on the making of the movie and goes into great detail. I used to love reading all those making of a movie books that would come out to coincide with the movie. Fascinating stuff. I would love it if cd's and/or vinyl came with a bonus blu-ray/4K disc documenting the making of the record with all the in-studio processes and stuff. I would buy that in a heartbeat. There have some EPKs that came with the deluxe edition of cd's that has some footage, but it's not enough. I WANTS MORE!!!

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