Large Format/"Premium" Theaters (IMAX 15/70, Digital IMAX, XD, ETX, RPX, etc.)

[GLaDOS]

Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

This is a question to those who saw Mission Impossible: Fallout in IMAX 2D - Did you folks find the aspect ratio expansion in those two scenes to be impactful or did they feel unnecessary? A response would be appreciated. I haven't had the chance to see it that way yet.

Having seen Fallout in both scope and IMAX, I can definitely say that the expanded aspect ratio felt more immersive and provided a fuller image than you'd see in scope. Guess that's why McQuarrie insisted on keeping the IMAX on the Blu-ray release, which is a good call IMO.

Also, IMAX 15/70 is love

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Dunkirk at Universal CityWalk (true 70MM IMAX) was deafening - I actually had to plug my ears during several parts of the film and I love my films LOUD.


I can localize the speakers in IMAX. Atmos in my experience is much more immersive.

I saw/heard 'Dunkirk' in IMAX-laser and I thought the high end treble in the sound effects of the gunshots in the beginning and when the soldiers are being shot while inside the drowning boat were ear-ripping - it made me cringe.

I thought one of the most immersive sound mixes I heard in Atmos (12-channel and Auro) was 'Everest'. While the IMAX mix was aggressive, the use and where sound moved around in the Atmos auditorium was a completely different and better experience; music was wide and often drifted off the screen to beautiful effect, a wind vortex that you could hear above did this circular effect. In my thoughts on IMAX, I think sometimes the audio can be so loud that as a result they overpower the overhead sound cues. Interestingly, the 12-channel mix of 'Sully' was superior over the Dolby Atmos mix I heard.

[Dreamliner330]

Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

This is a question to those who saw Mission Impossible: Fallout in IMAX 2D - Did you folks find the aspect ratio expansion in those two scenes to be impactful or did they feel unnecessary? A response would be appreciated. I haven't had the chance to see it that way yet.

I liked it. But I ALWAYS go to IMAX if what I want is playing on it (unless IMAX shafts the 3D version, then I go see it in 3D Laser Atmos on a screen bigger than LIMAX Scope). Your ability to see Fallout in IMAX might be gone though. The Meg is taking over tonight in most theaters.

Still frustrated IMAX 3D for Fallout wasn't a thing in the US. IMAX is one of the few systems bright enough to pull off 3D extremely well.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by singhcr

From what I've read, the digital IMAX sound systems are lossless (48/16 I'd think)

https://www.creativeplanetnetwork.co...x-sound-373444



As good as the Atmos sound is in my local Dolby Cinema, I still maintain that the system in the 15/70 IMAX theater is the most enveloping. Dunkirk was one of the greatest theater experiences I ever had. Insanely gorgeous 15/70 film on a giant screen with a killer sound system that had a tremendous sound stage and presence to it, including the low end.

Oh yeah, Dunkirk was amazing. It was just the right side of eardrum-piercingly loud, I mean it was MEGA LOUD but only in certain bursts of audio and the immersion of it, my God, I've never heard anything like it and probably never will again. I pretty much gave up on on home cinema audio after watching Dunkirk's UHD at home, it sounded like I was listening to it in a bathtub on my modest system compared to the immensity of the IMAX 15/70 presentation and I just don't have the space/money/inclination to go chasing after a more 'spensive setup. I've spent years pursuing good audio as well as video but nowadays I'm much more focused on the latter.

Originally Posted by singhcr

For me, at least, I often have difficulty hearing the height speakers in Atmos theaters. I've watched several movies and haven't really detected them. At least we have options, eh?

Heh. I recently saw my first-ever Atmos movie in the cinema (Skyscraper) and all throughout the film I was like "is that it?". Now, one might argue that the mix wasn't the greatest...but then the myriad of Dolby intros at the head of the film were also just as lacking in overt height information. Now I feel so much better at not going gaga for all that shit anymore, I mean I do still want decently mastered audio on disc with proper dynamic range and whatnot, as well as an original mix wherever possible, but as for all this bajillion speakers malarkey? I'm out.

[singhcr]

I'm right there with you, Geoff. I don't think there will ever be a total visual and audio immersive experience like Dunkirk in my life again, although Interstellar in 15/70 was pretty damn close.

You just can't replicate that at home in either category and honestly that's the way it should be. The theater experience should be special and something to aspire to. With the exception of the 15/70 IMAX and Dolby Cinema screens or whenever I catch a good 35mm or 70mm print at my local arthouse theater (Lawrence 70mm w/ 6ch mag track and 2001 in 70mm were lovely, as was RoboCop in 35mm) I have always thought to myself that my setup at home was better. So I rarely go to the standard DCP shows because almost all of the theaters around here show 2D movies with the 3D polarizer in palace, making for a blurry dim mess that I pay $12 for. No thanks.

As for Atmos, I would still like to try hearing it at home. I rarely hear the surrounds in the theaters, IMAX included, much of the time. But when I get my surrounds aligned right at home, I can hear them clearly and they make a difference. Someday I'll have l my own place where I can get a 7.2.4 setup, but 5.1 is still pretty damn good. So are stereo or mono tracks if they're done well. I enjoy having a soundstage, and years of vinyl playback prove just how damn enveloping a wall of sound can be from simple stereo playback. Maybe Atmos is largely hype (it seems that way in the theater IMHO) but I'll reserve judgement for now until I get it at home. It certainly doesn't hurt to have the option though.

[xbs2034]

Like Interstellar, I saw Dunkirk first in 70mm and then IMAX, and unlike Interstellar where the mixes had some clear differences, it sounded pretty similar and great in both formats, albeit I do think there were a few sound effects which went into the too loud territory.

I definitely had a "that's all it is" first reaction to Atmos with X-Men: Days of Future Past, but once I view it more as a compliment then some radical improvement to sound (7.1 and even 5.1 can absolutely still deliver), and see some titles which use it better (Paddington 2 was one of the most recent films I saw in Atmos, and really liked how they incorporated Atmos in that mix), it is a nice little bonus to have.

I do think IMAX 12 channel is the best sound system I've ever heard: I've seen about 11 titles in Atmos and roughly double that in 12 channel, Force Awakens is one film I saw in both and I preferred the IMAX mix (again had an issue with some sound effects being too loud in Atmos IMO, and I think the overhead sounds came across better in IMAX, both were of course better than the 5.1 I first saw the film in). Though funny enough I wanted to take someone along to IMAX digital showing of Thor Ragnarok to show the renovations they had done, and I was recently blown away by the sound of Blade Runner: The Final Cut in 12 channel there, but that proved to be a test case for how restrained some of Disney's "immersive" mixes are, so I do think the film itself is probably the biggest factor.

[Riddhi2011]

Originally Posted by GLaDOS

Having seen Fallout in both scope and IMAX, I can definitely say that the expanded aspect ratio felt more immersive and provided a fuller image than you'd see in scope. Guess that's why McQuarrie insisted on keeping the IMAX on the Blu-ray release, which is a good call IMO.

Also, IMAX 15/70 is love

Did 'MI Fallout' get IMAX 15/70 prints, or did you see it at a theatre that has the 15/70 IMAX shape? My first viewing was also at a screen that used to be a 15/70 IMAX. So, despite the fact that it was 4K scope DCP playing (no AR shifts), it still looked huge and impressive. They have 64 speaker Atmos and it sounded great, though not as good as JW2 Atmos on the same screen.

Originally Posted by Dreamliner330

I liked it. But I ALWAYS go to IMAX if what I want is playing on it (unless IMAX shafts the 3D version, then I go see it in 3D Laser Atmos on a screen bigger than LIMAX Scope). Your ability to see Fallout in IMAX might be gone though. The Meg is taking over tonight in most theaters.

Still frustrated IMAX 3D for Fallout wasn't a thing in the US. IMAX is one of the few systems bright enough to pull off 3D extremely well.

Due to disagreement between the Indian exhibitors and Hollywood studios over sharing 3D glass prices, almost all major studios have refused to release 3D (except Fox and Disney). Indian audience absolutely prefer 3D over 2D but it appears that the end of Hollywood theatrical 3D is nigh for us. One less reason to go to the cinemas. I am not a big Marvel fan. The only reason I go to catch them at the cinemas is because of the 3D (which is almost always good). Warner, Paramount and Universal have all decided not to release 3D in India anymore. So many great 3D titles we'll miss out on from now. I'll mostly give those a skip at the cinemas and wait for digital release. It's not worth it for me; travelling over two hours to watch a movie, knowing you aren't getting the best version to watch.

[GLaDOS]

Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

Did 'MI Fallout' get IMAX 15/70 prints, or did you see it at a theatre that has the 15/70 IMAX shape? My first viewing was also at a screen that used to be a 15/70 IMAX. So, despite the fact that it was 4K scope DCP playing (no AR shifts), it still looked huge and impressive. They have 64 speaker Atmos and it sounded great, though not as good as JW2 Atmos on the same screen.

Not to my knowledge. I do remember there being 35mm prints for Fallout, but they're severely limited in numbers.

[RustinCohle]

[Dreamliner330]

^You know, as much as I like the Marvel movies, I'm simply not interested enough to see them again in the theater.

I'd easily pay $200 if they did a Nolan 70mm IMAX presentation with all his films. One per day or something.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by singhcr

From what I've read, the digital IMAX sound systems are lossless (48/16 I'd think)

https://www.creativeplanetnetwork.co...x-sound-373444



As good as the Atmos sound is in my local Dolby Cinema, I still maintain that the system in the 15/70 IMAX theater is the most enveloping. Dunkirk was one of the greatest theater experiences I ever had. Insanely gorgeous 15/70 film on a giant screen with a killer sound system that had a tremendous sound stage and presence to it, including the low end.

I had the pleasure of seeing Dunkirk in both IMAX 15/70 and Laser IMAX (former 15/70 in Toronto) and with the exception perhaps of pure resolution, the Laser IMAX handily bested the 15/70 in every other regard. The 12-channel upgrade the Laser IMAX screens have is just stupendous, Dunkirk was definitely too loud but I forgot my musicians plugs with -9dBs that would have been perfect while not affecting fidelity...still I'm glad I saw it once without plugs even tho it bothered my tinnitus for a couple days, the bass (which would still be as God-pounding with plugs in) was thunderous...I've never experienced low end that visceral.

I saw Interstellar in 15/70, would love to see it again in the full frame IMAX presentation at the Laser IMAX. The contrast, black levels, clarity, color, everything was just pretty much perfect for Dunkirk.

Now don't get me wrong, I still LOVED seeing it in 15/70 IMAX with the 6-channel presentation and feel it was the 2nd best way to see Dunkirk, but seeing it in both within a few days of each other allowed me to realize just how stunning the new IMAX system is. Wowza.

I knew it was good as I'd seen The Force Awakens in Toronto and so got the one full AR scene (Escape from Jakku) in 3D (felt like I wasn't wearing glasses it was so bright and clear) but seeing a Nolan movie with so much more IMAX AR scenes, damn. Sign me up.

It's a 90 min drive so I won't leap to go to Toronto for flicks like Avengers shot with the digital IMAX camera in 1.90:1, but for movies done with full film IMAX I'll absolutely consider it and for Nolan it's a must.

Crap, I forgot about MI Fallout. I need to check if TO has any screenings left...

EDIT - NM, I was assuming it had some 1.43:1 scenes like the Brad Bird one, I will wait and hope the Blu-ray has the shifting AR. Should probably still go see this in the Canadian UltraAVX (4K, Atmos)

[ITDEFX101]

Originally Posted by RustinCohle

Not at my Regal....oh well.

[StarWarsIsAwesome123]

The IMAX I go to is a full size one and is having the marathon. Tickets are only $7 for this so I'll definitely be going to some of these. Btw, it's a Regal.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by StarWarsIsAwesome123

The IMAX I go to is a full size one and is having the marathon. Tickets are only $7 for this so I'll definitely be going to some of these. Btw, it's a Regal.

I wonder how many people will try to sit through all 20

[GLaDOS]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Crap, I forgot about MI Fallout. I need to check if TO has any screenings left...

EDIT - NM, I was assuming it had some 1.43:1 scenes like the Brad Bird one, I will wait and hope the Blu-ray has the shifting AR.

You're in luck.

[Mike0284]

[Show spoiler]08/30
Iron Man (IMAX) - 1pm
The Incredible Hulk (IMAX) - 4pm
Iron Man 2 (IMAX) - 7pm
Thor (IMAX 3D) - 10pm

08/31
Captain America: The First Avenger (IMAX) - 12:15pm
The Avengers (IMAX 3D) - 3:15pm
Iron Man 3 (IMAX 3D) - 6:45pm
Thor: The Dark World (IMAX 3D) - 9:45pm

09/01
Captain America: The Winter Soldier (IMAX 3D) - 12:15pm
Guardians of the Galaxy (IMAX 3D) - 3:30pm
Avengers: Age of Ultron (IMAX 3D) - 6:45pm
Ant-Man (IMAX 3D) - 10pm

09/02
Captain America: Civil War (IMAX 3D) - 12:15pm
Doctor Strange (IMAX 3D) - 3:45pm
Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 2 (IMAX 3D) - 6:45pm
Spider-Man: Homecoming (IMAX) - 10pm

09/03
Thor: Ragnarok (IMAX) - 12pm
Black Panther (IMAX) - 3pm
Avengers: Infinity War (IMAX) - 6:15pm
Ant-Man and The Wasp (IMAX) - 9:45pm

09/04
Iron Man (IMAX) - 12:45pm
Spider-Man: Homecoming (IMAX) - 3:45pm
Black Panther (IMAX) - 6:45pm
Doctor Strange (IMAX 3D) - 9:50pm

09/05
Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 2 (IMAX 3D) - 12:15pm
Captain America: Civil War (IMAX 3D) - 3:15pm
The Avengers (IMAX 3D) - 6:30pm
Avengers: Infinity War (IMAX) - 9:45pm

[xbs2034]

Originally Posted by StarWarsIsAwesome123

The IMAX I go to is a full size one and is having the marathon. Tickets are only $7 for this so I'll definitely be going to some of these. Btw, it's a Regal.

Lincoln Square is playing Dark Knight twice a day in evening that week, so I guess they are probably gonna do Kin (which mentions IMAX in its latest ads) during the day rather than some of these showings.

AMC Empire and Kips Bay do have tickets on sale, so far looks like only a few tickets sold per showing, so not going super fast like Dark Knight was and thankfully gives some time to plan it out.

I would like to see Iron Man 1 in IMAX, and then probably one more. Probably either The First Avenger (like Iron Man it's new to IMAX, though showing just once on early Friday afternoon may not be doable with work) or Thor 1 (if you discount the recent Ant-Man and the Wasp which I've seen in IMAX anyway, it's the only Marvel Studios movie I've seen just once, and was planning on seeing it again soon albeit at home).

[antovolk]

Apparently Iron Man 1, according to the IMAX site, will have 1.90 scenes...

[xbs2034]

Originally Posted by antovolk

Apparently Iron Man 1, according to the IMAX site, will have 1.90 scenes...

Probably material created for open matte home viewings, but that's definitely a surprise for a re-release done in IMAX. Certainly does affect where I would see the film, as I would make sure to see it at the Empire rather than Kips Bay (it's scope screen is great for most IMAX releases, but means you don't get any expanded image area or titles taller than that)

[ITDEFX101]

Originally Posted by xbs2034

Probably material created for open matte home viewings, but that's definitely a surprise for a re-release done in IMAX. Certainly does affect where I would see the film, as I would make sure to see it at the Empire rather than Kips Bay (it's scope screen is great for most IMAX releases, but means you don't get any expanded image area or titles taller than that)

I will be truly shocked if they show the FX TV network cut of the movie with additional scenes. I couldn't believe it myself until I noticed quite a few different scenes that were not in the original theatrical cut.