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Ruined · 08-17-2018, 11:47 PM

The Last Starfighter - DVD has more grain due to BD DNR and original audio, BD also has a mixing error

Near Dark - BD has DNR and motion artifacts

The Sword in the Stone - BD DNR makes film look like watercolor painting.

thatguamguy · 08-17-2018, 11:49 PM

The reviews for "The Osterman Weekend" blu were so bad that I have never bothered to upgrade from the DVD.

Aclea · 08-18-2018, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by thatguamguy

The reviews for "The Osterman Weekend" blu were so bad that I have never bothered to upgrade from the DVD.

It's a must for every collection if you like purple. Especially purple skintones.

Member-167298 · 08-17-2018, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruined

The Last Starfighter - DVD has more grain due to BD DNR and original audio, BD also has a mixing error

I am surprised this has not come to the Shout! Select series.

James Luckard · 08-18-2018, 12:04 AM

HELP! looks absolutely wretched on BD. It's the exact same transfer as the DVD, looks nearly identical, has awful edge enhancement, and adds a weird smoothing element that people commented on in the thread:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=200

It's tied with THAT THING YOU DO! as the most hideous-looking BD I own.

The Mad Kiwi · 08-18-2018, 12:25 AM

The Sword in the Stone and The King and I, otherwise known to me on Blu as The Smear in the Stone and The King of Cyan. Sword in the Stone has the worst DNR I've ever seen. It's like someone put a watercolor Photoshop filter over the whole thing. The DVD upscaled looks much better (and if you look hard enough, you can find HD digital copies sourced from that master online).

As for King and I, the missing red element that makes most of the movie look teal and brown makes for a rather gnarly visual experience. The DVD admittedly went in the opposite direction and pushed the red a touch too much, but it's far more pleasing to the eye. Fox has since corrected the BD restoration on both digial copies and theatrical DCPs, and while the revised image is a big improvement, I keep waiting for it to come to Blu. This is as worthy of an exchange program as any other title I've seen.

shinobipopcorn · 08-18-2018, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mad Kiwi

The Sword in the Stone and The King and I, otherwise known to me on Blu as The Smear in the Stone and The King of Cyan. Sword in the Stone has the worst DNR I've ever seen. It's like someone put a watercolor Photoshop filter over the whole thing. The DVD upscaled looks much better (and if you look hard enough, you can find HD digital copies sourced from that master online).

Even the official iTunes digital copy is better than that mess. I don't know about Movies Anywhere because I refuse to buy that movie until they fix it, but they have to know they've butchered it.

I've heard Robin Hood has some light smearing too, so I bought the DVD.

ramboraph · 08-18-2018, 03:19 AM

Scream Factory's Dog Soldiers. It looks like a crappy 'Grindhouse flick' and looks more 'white'...I prefer the look of it on DVD.

McGarnigal · 08-18-2018, 05:20 PM

Big Fish's transfer took a while to grow on me

THX. · 08-19-2018, 10:53 AM

Another Blu-Ray with heavy handed DNR is 'The Longest Day', it looks like Predator-Ultimate Hunter. Really waxy, cartoonish even.

Ernest Rister · 08-19-2018, 11:00 AM

When they use the same master as the DVD, all you're getting is the same master, just upscaled.

Roonan · 08-22-2018, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

When they use the same master as the DVD, all you're getting is the same master, just upscaled.

No, the master is what's downscaled for the DVD.

Ernest Rister · 08-23-2018, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Roonan

No, the master is what's downscaled for the DVD.

The Paramount masters for the Blu-Rays of the Star Trek feature films are embarrassing, using what looks like the same masters as the DVDs. Hopefully when they come to 4k, Paramount will finally grudgingly spend the money to treat the films properly, with new OCN scans bringing the 24th century out of the 20th.

marblearch · 08-19-2018, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by THX.

Another Blu-Ray with heavy handed DNR is 'The Longest Day', it looks like Predator-Ultimate Hunter. Really waxy, cartoonish even.

The German blu ray of Paul Newman drama Where the Money Is, has to be seen to be believed. It's the world leader in DNR.

Ernest Rister · 08-19-2018, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by marblearch

The German blu ray of Paul Newman drama Where the Money Is, has to be seen to be believed. It's the world leader in DNR.

The Sword in the Stone in competition. Un Freaking Believable.

Region_unlocked · 08-25-2018, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruined

The Sword in the Stone - BD DNR makes film look like watercolor painting.

This is a cap from the Blu-ray that Disney released.

This is the corresponding cap from the iTunes version with the Photoshop "Watercolor" filter applied to it.

[Show spoiler]

My God...

Region_unlocked · 08-25-2018, 05:36 PM

To give you an idea of how atrociously high I had to crank the settings of that filter to vaguely resemble the DNR on the Disney disc here's that same filter, with the same settings, applied to live action cap.

[Show spoiler]

Ernest Rister · 08-26-2018, 04:03 PM

The Sword in the Stone is unwatchable.

08-18-2018, 12:04 AM	#5
James Luckard Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Jan 2011 Location:Los Angeles, CA 4K collection:399 Blu-ray collection:1816 Blu-ray reviews: 34	HELP! looks absolutely wretched on BD. It's the exact same transfer as the DVD, looks nearly identical, has awful edge enhancement, and adds a weird smoothing element that people commented on in the thread: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=200 It's tied with THAT THING YOU DO! as the most hideous-looking BD I own. Last edited by James Luckard; 08-18-2018 at 12:09 AM.

08-25-2018, 05:36 PM	#17
Region_unlocked Power Member Top contributor Member since:Jan 2014 Trading Score:2	To give you an idea of how atrociously high I had to crank the settings of that filter to vaguely resemble the DNR on the Disney disc here's that same filter, with the same settings, applied to live action cap. [Show spoiler]Taxi driver watercolor.jpg

08-17-2018, 11:47 PM	#1
Ruined Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Sep 2009 Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:1	The Last Starfighter - DVD has more grain due to BD DNR and original audio, BD also has a mixing error Near Dark - BD has DNR and motion artifacts The Sword in the Stone - BD DNR makes film look like watercolor painting.

08-17-2018, 11:49 PM	#2
thatguamguy Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2016 Trading Score:4	The reviews for "The Osterman Weekend" blu were so bad that I have never bothered to upgrade from the DVD.

08-18-2018, 12:25 AM	#6
The Mad Kiwi Power Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2010 Location:Florida 4K collection:199 Blu-ray collection:902 DVD collection:128 Digital collection:16	The Sword in the Stone and The King and I, otherwise known to me on Blu as The Smear in the Stone and The King of Cyan. Sword in the Stone has the worst DNR I've ever seen. It's like someone put a watercolor Photoshop filter over the whole thing. The DVD upscaled looks much better (and if you look hard enough, you can find HD digital copies sourced from that master online). As for King and I, the missing red element that makes most of the movie look teal and brown makes for a rather gnarly visual experience. The DVD admittedly went in the opposite direction and pushed the red a touch too much, but it's far more pleasing to the eye. Fox has since corrected the BD restoration on both digial copies and theatrical DCPs, and while the revised image is a big improvement, I keep waiting for it to come to Blu. This is as worthy of an exchange program as any other title I've seen.

08-18-2018, 03:19 AM	#8
ramboraph Active Member Member since:Jul 2010	Scream Factory's Dog Soldiers. It looks like a crappy 'Grindhouse flick' and looks more 'white'...I prefer the look of it on DVD.

08-18-2018, 05:20 PM	#9
McGarnigal Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:149 Blu-ray collection:329 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:10	Big Fish's transfer took a while to grow on me

08-19-2018, 10:53 AM	#10
THX. Banned Member since:Apr 2013 Blu-ray collection:16	Another Blu-Ray with heavy handed DNR is 'The Longest Day', it looks like Predator-Ultimate Hunter. Really waxy, cartoonish even.

08-19-2018, 11:00 AM	#11
Ernest Rister Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:100 Blu-ray collection:590 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	When they use the same master as the DVD, all you're getting is the same master, just upscaled.

08-26-2018, 04:03 PM	#18
Ernest Rister Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:100 Blu-ray collection:590 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	The Sword in the Stone is unwatchable.

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