Death in Venice (1971)

[AlexIlDottore]

Originally Posted by raskolnikov

You are right, excuse me sir, i saw the article from 2011 (not 2014) but did not mention the DCP master definition...
Do you think so about their work? i had some voice about that on only two movies restored by them...i will stay more focused on this aspects the next time

No problem 2008/2009, 4K scans were being done, but not at the rate that they are being today.

When I think of L'Immagine Ritrovata, I think of terrible restoration work.

Their Sergio Leone restorations are an insult. Their gialli restorations usually have to be regraded once they're handed to Arrow, Koch Media or Camera Obscura. Unfortunately however, not all of them are regraded.

[raskolnikov]

Originally Posted by AlexIlDottore

No problem 2008/2009, 4K scans were being done, but not at the rate that they are being today.

When I think of L'Immagine Ritrovata, I think of terrible restoration work.

Their Sergio Leone restorations are an insult. Their gialli restorations usually have to be regraded once they're handed to Arrow or Koch Media. Unfortunately, not all of them are regraded.

Only for curiosity, one half off topic:
1)What is so one the greatest labels in the restoration field?
2)Do you think a blu ray of The Damned will be coming soon?
I thik that Death in Venice is practically certain...based on the Some like it hot case

[AlexIlDottore]

Originally Posted by raskolnikov

Only for curiosity, one half off topic:
1)What is so one the greatest labels in the restoration fiel?
Do you think a blu ray of The Damned will be coming soon?
I thik that Death in Venice is practically certain ...based on the Some like it hot case

1. I don't know tbh.
2. I hope we get a blu of The Damned within 18 months, as I've been waiting on one for years

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by AlexIlDottore

1. I don't know tbh.
2. I hope we get a blu of The Damned within 18 months, as I've been waiting on one for years

I need more Visconti ASAP!

[raskolnikov]

Originally Posted by AlexIlDottore

1. I don't know tbh.
2. I hope we get a blu of The Damned within 18 months, as I've been waiting on one for years

I think i will catch a screening of Death in Venice in Bologna in September, only for two days. I can not wait!!
The Damned will be celebrating his 50th anniversary in 2019... there is a concrete possibility

[raskolnikov]

Originally Posted by AlexIlDottore

1. I don't know tbh.
2. I hope we get a blu of The Damned within 18 months, as I've been waiting on one for years

Now we have the absolute answer, The Damned was restored in 2010
http://www.cinetecadibologna.it/file...dei%20film.pdf
There is a page but not the quality of the transfer, in any case it was screened two months ago in Bologna, if i know then i would have catch that screening and watch it in first person...
In any case we will have a blu ray in 18 months, there are all the assumptions
There is a general interest especially in USA for Visconti, in particular the late period

[CineSicko]

Originally Posted by raskolnikov

There is a general interest especially in USA for Visconti, in particular the late period

We could use Visconti's adaptation of the Camus novel THE STRANGER (starring Marcello Mastroianni) as well. I don't believe that ever saw a video release, not even on VHS. I've read great things about it, though.

[Aunt Peg]

Originally Posted by CineSicko

We could use Visconti's adaptation of the Camus novel THE STRANGER (starring Marcello Mastroianni) as well. I don't believe that ever saw a video release, not even on VHS. I've read great things about it, though.

It is very good. There may be rights issue with it though.

[malakaheso]

Have any reviews for this popped up yet?

[yellowcakeuf6]

"A compelling exploration of homosexuality and morality", and "A contemplative exploration of homosexuality" are two quotes from the new Blu-ray.com review, while those subjects are hard to ignore, I always saw this film as more about the nature of beauty, and obsession. Since Aschenbach never acts on his obsession, how could one fully say this is an exploration of homosexuality?

[Pinot Grigio]

Originally Posted by yellowcakeuf6

"A compelling exploration of homosexuality and morality", and "A contemplative exploration of homosexuality" are two quotes from the new Blu-ray.com review, while those subjects are hard to ignore, I always saw this film as more about the nature of beauty, and obsession. Since Aschenbach never acts on his obsession, how could one fully say this is an exploration of homosexuality?

Yup! Those quotes sound like they completely misunderstood the purpose. I loved the film but I would never list it in a recommendation of gay cinema. The child is symbolic of the older man's younger self.

Also, am I the only one who thought the yellow tint was distinct and beautiful?

[rip63]

Originally Posted by yellowcakeuf6

"A compelling exploration of homosexuality and morality", and "A contemplative exploration of homosexuality" are two quotes from the new Blu-ray.com review, while those subjects are hard to ignore, I always saw this film as more about the nature of beauty, and obsession. Since Aschenbach never acts on his obsession, how could one fully say this is an exploration of homosexuality?

Indeed. I was very disappointed when I read this in the review here. With no offence intended toward the reviewer, that came off as an inability to see beyond surface levels, therefore missing the point entirely. Now I think of it, even bits of the dialogue indicate the true nature of its theme/s... I guess it will forever remain a film that divides.

[Lutz]

Originally Posted by yellowcakeuf6

"A compelling exploration of homosexuality and morality", and "A contemplative exploration of homosexuality" are two quotes from the new Blu-ray.com review, while those subjects are hard to ignore, I always saw this film as more about the nature of beauty, and obsession. Since Aschenbach never acts on his obsession, how could one fully say this is an exploration of homosexuality?

Because even in 1971 being a “closet queen” was still a very real reality for gays.

And especially when you combine Thomas Mann and Dirk Bogarde’s long struggle with the closet and Visconti being a huge queen the gay lineage here, with what it’s doing figuratively and narratively and as a meta narrative, is through the roof.

[yellowcakeuf6]

Originally Posted by Lutz

Because even in 1971 being a “closet queen” was still a very real reality for gays.

And especially when you combine Thomas Mann and Dirk Bogarde’s long struggle with the closet and Visconti being a huge queen the gay lineage here, with what it’s doing figuratively and narratively and as a meta narrative, is through the roof.

Though the time in which the film was made has to be considered, I didn't indicate it was devoid of the subject, I still think it is much less an exploration, I.e. thorough analysis..

[Ebab]

Originally Posted by yellowcakeuf6

"A compelling exploration of homosexuality and morality", and "A contemplative exploration of homosexuality" are two quotes from the new Blu-ray.com review, while those subjects are hard to ignore, I always saw this film as more about the nature of beauty, and obsession. Since Aschenbach never acts on his obsession, how could one fully say this is an exploration of homosexuality?

I agree. In the novella, and the film picks up on it, the same-gender attraction is presented as important, but more like a symptom of the protagonist giving up the life that he’s lived, with all its demands and facades, letting go of life itself. In its essence, this is not a film “about homosexuality”.