General Anime Messups Thread

[professorwho]

BigOnAnime made a list of all of FUNimation's failures for a while, and now that MAL has blog access back, I present their's, and every major anime distributor's failures to you!


Some General Issues
-Since FUNimation launched their EVS (Elite Video Subscription) service in late 2011, streams added from that point on have color range issues that have introduced black and white crush.
https://twitter.com/BigOnAnime/statu...99780875943936
-Inconsistency in packaging/releases
-Eco-cases. FUNimation has used these for years, and at one point stopped using them completely around 2013, however when they released Dangaronpa: The Animation's Limited Edition, it had eco-cases (and also some had the reversible-cover rip due to the security tab in some copies being able to stick to the insert thanks to the eco-case having the holes, and even scratched discs), it had an eco-case. It's now come back randomly.
-Translation quality on simulcasts since the Winter 2014 season has seriously declined.
Shows known for having rather problematic translations: No-Rin (Fixed on home video), Seraph of the End: Vampire Reign, Concrete Revolutio (Daisuki stopped using FUNimation's script midway due to the severity of the errors), HaruChika: Haruta & Chika

Note: I'm perfectly aware some of these are honestly nitpicks, but some of these are some serious issues. This also demonstrates that something seriously has gone wrong at FUNimation. Most of the stuff from say 2007-2012 or so are honest mistakes (every company makes mistakes at some point, this is irrefutable fact), but as you can see, in 2016 there was TONS of stuff I found problematic, far more than I could have possibly imagined when I first made this list. Also, this is in no way comprehensive for stuff before 2015, though I honestly doubt there's nearly as much stuff.

[professorwho]

2007:
Suzuka Volume 2 is missing the Kodansha logo on the spine of both covers.
http://i.imgur.com/hQTVS1C.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/D9NpgfW.jpg

Denial of ever cropping Dragon Ball Z and blaming it on overscanning on TVs.
http://dbzul.blogspot.com/2007/10/dr...emastered.html

2008:
Shuffle! Volume 1 wrongly lists 4:3 instead of 16:9 for the aspect ratio on the back cover.
[The disc itself is the proper aspect ratio.]

2010:
Trigun Opening 1 plays on every episode as FUNimation slapped credits on the only clean OP they received. This mistake was done on Geneon's original release as well, but fixed in the Remix singles and Limited Edition tins. FUNimation fixed this issue on the Anime Classics re-release 2.5 years later.

Birdy the Mighty: Decode ED and epilogues squished into a small box with FUNimation slapping credits on the side on a black screen with it due to a lack of creditless materials.
http://i.imgur.com/G7PbKeG.png
[The proper procedure in these instances is to do the credit-roll after the episode or at the very end of the disc.]
Birdy doesn't have a Blu-ray release in Japan, it's still DVD-only. Creditless materials do seem to exist however, so no idea why in the hell Aniplex didn't provide them. This still does not excuse their actions though, the correct way to do credits is the Sentai Filmworks way, roll the English credits after the untouched Japanese ones. The other alternative that is not as good, but not too annoying is the Media Blasters/Nozomi way, roll the credits at the end of the disc. Reason why it's not the best? The opening credits contain the general staff that doesn't change from episode to episode. The ending credits however are different for every individual episode as they include basically everyone, and different people work on different episodes.


Sekirei episode 1 ED cropped on bottom so FUNimation could insert their credits due to not receiving creditless materials.
https://fandompost.vbulletin.net/for...sons-1-2/page2

2011:
Evangelion 1.11: You Are (Not) Alone silent repackage Blu-ray having the DVD logo on both the slipcover and case.
http://i.imgur.com/zoWEHjD.jpg

Trigun: Badlands Rumble dub recasting debacle.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs...154527#1154527

Upscaling Spice & Wolf S1 rather than using the Japanese Blu-ray Box masters.
https://fandompost.vbulletin.net/for...ge4#post114274
Screenshots

Spice & Wolf II audio issues. The dub dialogue is in mono, the Japanese audio is tinny.
https://fandompost.vbulletin.net/for...sons-1-2/page6

Attempting to release Strike Witches 2 and Heaven's Lost Property: Forte too close to the Japanese Blu-ray Box re-releases.
[This led to Kadokawa delaying said titles, and allowing FUNimation to release Kadokawa titles DVD-only for a while as punishment.]

Strike Witches 2: Kadokawa solicited the Blu-ray Box on November 11, 2011 for a 3/23/2012 release. FUNimation solicited their Strike Witches 2 release for 2/21/2012 on December 30, 2011. FUNimation's release was delayed until 10/2/2012.
https://fandompost.vbulletin.net/for...-engsub-engdub

Heaven's Lost Property: Forte: Kadokawa solicited the Blu-ray Box on July 22, 2012 for a 1/25/2013 release. FUNimation solicited their Heaven's Lost Property: Forte release for 3/30/2012 on December 7, 2011. The last Blu-ray single was released 5/27/11. FUNimation's original plan of it being a combo pack was scrapped, the MSRP was dropped from $69.98 to $64.98, became DVD-only, included 4 art cards for compensation, and was delayed to 4/17/2012. FUNimation's Blu-ray-only release of S2 was solicited on September 14, 2012 for a 12/18/2012 release, but was then delayed until a 6/25/2013 release due to the second Blu-ray Box.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...d-only-release

2012:
Sekirei: Pure Engagement Limited Edition artbox says "Sekirei: Pure Engagement" all over a box that's meant to hold both S1 and S2, not just S2, "Pure Engagement".

Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood OVA Collection has the DVD logo on the bottom of both the slipcover and case on a combo pack release.
http://i.imgur.com/J2aNvt0.jpg

Nearly excluding certain extras from Shakugan no Shana Second until backlash caused them to delay the release to include them.
(Link is gone, will try to fix eventually)

Serial Experiments Lain Banding Disaster
http://www.kentaiblog.com/2012/11/se...965b3778082f31

Tenchi in Tokyo, Tokyo is spelled as Toyko on the spine.


2013:
Eureka Seven AO Limited Edition artbox has "Part 1" slapped all over a box meant to hold all of E7AO.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...qHLfL._SL_.jpg

Good Luck Girl! dropped frames on the OP and ED.
(Same link thing, ditto)

Released Sankarea censored (TV version) initially by mistake.
http://funimation.tumblr.com/post/62...nkarea-release
[It was later re-released uncut. The uncut release did not receive an LE.]

Messed up Last Exile: Fam, the Silver Wing Part 2 product page.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160816...son-2-Part-2_2
[This issue still hasn't been fixed http://shop.funimation.com/Season-2-Part-2_2] (EDIT: Holy s**t it's still broken. Thanks FUNi)

Cowboy Bebop degrained then regrained.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...3#post11645893

OniAi Missing Extra.
(Ditto link thing)

2014:
Heaven's Lost Property Anime Classics release with wrong slipcover size.
https://twitter.com/NormanicGrav/sta...80632803012608

Nearly releasing Ben-To censored (TV version).
(Link ditto)
[It received a delay, and was later released uncut.]

Rebranding the Shangri-La and Shiki Limited Editions with Part 2 inside as S.A.V.E. instead of bundling the two together for a discount until the stock is finally gone, then soliciting the S.A.V.E. set.
(Ditto)

Missing line in Eureka Seven Blu-ray.
(Ditto)

Property Title Goes Here: The Complete Series, Shangri-La S.A.V.E. Rebrand Disaster.


Senran Kagura specials disaster.
Official statement from FUNimation: https://www.funimation.com/blog/2014...agura-release/
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...pisodes/.77094
https://twitter.com/rootsofjustice/s...93833877061632

Oh shit, FUNimation apparently got booed at their panel over Senran Kagura.

[The issue here wasn't that they didn't have the specials. The problem was they didn't tell people in advance. If they were like "Hey, we actually don't have these specials due to licensing issues, and have sent this info out to retailers to update their listings.", everything would be fine. But no, they quietly delete the specials info from their own store, then issue that statement. This is proof that NO ONE did ANY QC AT ALL. This still remains by far one of FUNimation's worst PR disasters ever.]

2015:
Danganronpa: The Animation dub recasts, FUNimation not contacting many people from the game's cast.

High School DxD BorN Broadcast Dub PR Disaster
Cast list

Reason why Scott Freeman couldn't return later revealed

[While FUNimation was right to sever ties, they should have worded their initial PR statement better. As you can see, it riled people up.]

One episode of Mikagura had this disaster:

[Apparently all the lines were like this. This is (ironically) the only screenshot I have.]

Darker Than Black: Premium Edition, discs falling out/getting glue stuck to the discs.
(If you want a visual representation, look for some unboxing videos)

Hyperdimension Neptunia: The Animation Limited Edition box being too big. Sized to fit two 4-disc BD cases, not two 2-disc BD cases.
http://i.imgur.com/e3sTDDz.jpg

Snow White with the Red Hair Episode 3 uploaded with audio from next week's episode, Episode 4.
https://twitter.com/FUNimation/statu...66715761950720
https://twitter.com/Mendinso/status/623185595712540672

Lying about the Dragon Ball Z Survey Results
https://twitter.com/lheiskell/status/621190503548129280
https://twitter.com/lheiskell/status/623695483081351169

Ranpo Kitan Episode 4 subtitles staying on-screen for too long.
https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/624351855842316288

Fullmetal Alchemist Blu-ray Missing Info

[This was fixed in later pressings.]

Prison School GamerGate Line Controversy
Original line
FUNimation Broadcast Dub
FUNimation Response
Statements from one of the script writers
The home video version does not have this line.
[Good on FUNimation for realizing it didn't belong there at all. For once I can mention something positive about them.]

Attack on Titan Live-Action Movie "I've been waiting for this day!" line.
https://twitter.com/tiffako/status/649421479801524224

The subtitle had been "I've been waiting for this day!" for 20 minutes.

FUNi response
Answerman Article

Holding a panel about Dragon Ball Z, and also talking about Dragon Ball Super without having the license.
(Links are gone)

Scalping the OOP Dragon Boxes
https://twitter.com/FUNimation/statu...30866042077184
https://twitter.com/JGwinn1048/statu...31305844191232

Seraph of the End Episode 22 (S2, Episode 10) uploaded with the audio track used for dubbing.
https://twitter.com/FUNimation/statu...77831943364610
[This meant that there was no dialogue, just only sound and effects.]

2016

FUNimation when unveiling FUNimation Now at CES decided to search "Anime Collage" on Google Images, and used the very first result for one of the screens on the TVs. This image included characters to series they didn't have the license to, as well as video game characters, and characters from Avatar: The Last Airbender.
https://twitter.com/BigOnAnime/statu...12234730434560

Not translating 99% of the Japanese credits for Evangelion 3.33.

[professorwho]

2016 Continued

The Vision of Escaflowne Kickstarter Campaign

FUNimation decided to launch a Kickstarter campaign for a new dub for the beloved anime classic, The Vision of Escaflowne, one of the most successful shows in the history of R1, as well as the movie. The response to the Kickstarter was met with mostly negative to mixed reception, and is a little reminiscent of the problems people had with the Shenmue III Kickstarter. Video about it here:

[Show spoiler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXqrYx-04Ok

"Why would FUNimation need a Kickstarter to redub a show, one of Bandai's top 5 all-time bestsellers at that?". One of the main issues people had was the original dub being exclusive to the $175 tier later revealed to be CE-exclusive, and being DVD-only, as well as the possibility of recasting (which later ended up being the case). Another issue people had was the fate of the original dub for the movie, which DOES sync-up properly with the Japanese Blu-ray masters. (It was later revealed the original movie dub would be included)
ANN Article

For those wondering what FUNimation means when they say we haven't gotten the full English dub, Bandai accidentally gave us the TV version. When the show originally aired on Japanese TV, some content was cut due to time constraints, but was restored on the home video releases. Bandai however accidentally released the TV version, so we've NEVER seen those scenes, not evein Japanese. It was in the early episodes. This is similar to how ADV Films accidentally gave us the TV version of Martian Successor Nadesico, the dub does not sync-up with the Japanese Blu-rays, and Rightstuf's set (Which is sourced from the JPBD's) because of this. TRSI's release even has a disclaimer about it.

Source

Update The original dub is no longer CE-exclusive.

Update #11 Backlash
https://twitter.com/abzeronow/status/714508496440430592

Erased Episode 8 Tweet
http://archive.is/vIyAO
Replacement to cover their asses

that Funimation tweet framing a scene in Erased about child abuse as "lol the struggle is real!!!" shows how 100% out of touch they are

Source
[Context: The girl looking at the food, Kayo Hinazuki in the show is a child that is abused constantly by her mother that is now seeing this kind of food. Think for a second what FUNi said in the original tweet, and why it was awful. They compared being an abused child to a poor college student with "the struggle".]

Psycho-Pass 2 Premium Edition Mislabeling. The S2 PE has the Blu-ray + DVD logo on the case, while the box has only the Blu-ray logo, it was a Blu-ray-only release.

Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash Facebook Spoiler Post

https://www.facebook.com/funimation/...3511237948481/

FUNimation promoting Dragon Ball Super, a series they didn't have the license to at the time.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ceu6bRrWQAEZJC0.jpgrig

FUNimation UK Streaming Delays
[Also news of FUNimation doing stuff in the UK was geolocked for weeks.]

Putting the security bar on the info sheet on Limited Editions, thus causing also an indentation on the artbox

Misspelling "Quality"

[professorwho]

Reserved 3

[professorwho]

Reserved 4

[professorwho]

Reserved 5
(This should be enough for now)

[Naiera]

Title should probably say "mess-ups".

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by Naiera

Title should probably say "mess-ups".

Okay. I'll also update this with things he forgot, and things done since the original list was made.

[Dailyan]

Not using real steelbooks ie. "Akira" and "Cowboy Bebop: The Movie". Not releasing "Mach Go Go Go" on its own thus barring fans from seeing the original, uncut "Speed Racer" that only took half a century to be officially released stateside.

[BigOnAnime]

Some things to note, I last updated this back in February 2017, and many of the links in the original post are broken, mainly the Fandom Post links due to them moving to a newer version of vBulletin a year ago. Many of these issues ranged from not too serious to more serious, but it goes to show just how sloppy FUNi has become. I haven't followed too much of what's been going on since I last updated this, but I doubt they've improved as a company. Hell, they still aren't doing disc art anymore, we're going on 6 years now of them doing this bland nonsense (the first shows to suffer were Fractale and Panty & Stocking).

It's stuff like this that is why I don't like FUNi anymore (they were once my favorite NA anime distributor), and why I'm not too fond of the current state of the industry. Given how they distribute stuff for CR, this leads to nearly everything going through FUNi.

Originally Posted by professorwho

Birdy the Mighty: Decode ED and epilogues squished into a small box with FUNimation slapping credits on the side on a black screen with it due to a lack of creditless materials.
http://i.imgur.com/G7PbKeG.png
[The proper procedure in these instances is to do the credit-roll after the episode or at the very end of the disc.]
(UPDATE: I, professorwho am adding this: The Japanese BDs of Birdy have a creditless ED, so it might've been Aniplex screwing them over)

Birdy doesn't have a Blu-ray release in Japan, it's still DVD-only. Creditless materials do seem to exist however, so no idea why in the hell Aniplex didn't provide them. This still does not excuse their actions though, the correct way to do credits is the Sentai Filmworks way, roll the English credits after the untouched Japanese ones. The other alternative that is not as good, but not too annoying is the Media Blasters/Nozomi way, roll the credits at the end of the disc. Reason why it's not the best? The opening credits contain the general staff that doesn't change from episode to episode. The ending credits however are different for every individual episode as they include basically everyone, and different people work on different episodes.

[professorwho]

Posted up to 2014. Done for the night. I altered some stuff from what BOA originally wrote- like adding in links to Blu-ray dot com database listings for certain releases when in context.

Big problem is the Fandompost links. They be dead! やれやれだぜ。。。 That'll be a pain to recover...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWDAw2nsIjw

[Talyn]

Hell.... Go back to the original Blue gender release...nearly a year after the seventh volume before the final volume was released.... No excuse, no reason ever provided. There has been so many screw-ups since the beginning with them.

[Dailyan]

Didn’t they get some flack for using a fansub as a translation guide for a series? Or for a dub script. It might of even been in BoA’s original thread.

[BigOnAnime]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

Didn’t they get some flack for using a fansub as a translation guide for a series? Or for a dub script. It might of even been in BoA’s original thread.

Is this what you're referring to?
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...imation-studio

[pikagreg]

I actually wouldn't mind a general mess-up thread. It might be worth spoilering the OP by year like BoA has in his blog too.

I know you all hate Funi though everyone has their mistakes it seems like.

[BigOnAnime]

Everyone has made mistakes over the years, Sentai Filmworks had an absolutely horrible 2012-2013 for example.

Originally Posted by chronoclast

These have major problems:

Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 - 1080i (JP BDs are 1080p), artifacting, JP track of episode 7 has this same audio problem as Kids
The World God Only Knows Season 2 - JP track of episode 12 has this same audio problem as Kids
Dream Eater Merry - 1080i (JP BDs are 1080p), artifacting
Kamisama Dolls - 1080i (JP BDs are 1080p), artifacting
Fate/Stay Night (both parts) - artifacting, 1080i is correct for it though, one of the discs of part 1 is missing chapter stops
Canaan - artifacting, 1080i is correct for it though
This Boy Can Fight Aliens - artifacting, I don't know if 1080i is correct for it
Legends of the Dark King - lossy Japanese audio, supposedly it looks bad but I can't confirm that
Appleseed - lossy English and Japanese audio

IIRC I think someone reported one of the episodes on one of their K-On BDs has this audio problem too. I don't know which one though.

Those are just the major problems. That isn't counting all of the small issues like typos and errors in the subs, mistiming of subs and chapter stops, etc. that numerous releases have.

https://fandompost.vbulletin.net/for...ge4#post311608

However, FUNi within the past few years got particularly bad and sloppy, that's why it's notable. I got so frustrated that it led to this list. It also doesn't help that their workload has significantly increased as they and CR grab nearly every single show during a time where there is anime overproduction and too many shows. This is also BTW why so many anime have had production problems in the past couple of years.

A general messup thread would be nice though. I actually a while back made a blog entry that would do just that, but just in regards to releases, not "Oh this company made some really horrible joke on Twitter".
https://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=780198

The AUKN forums also has a thread in regards to pretty much every botched UK release over the years. That's the sort of thing I was aiming for with that blog post, and it would be nice to see something like that for a general messups thread.
https://forums.animeuknews.net/threa...e-discs.12497/

[MOONPHASE]

Dragonball Super Set 3 Blu-ray and DVD say it’s Rated TV-MA.

My Santa Rated TV-PG. Corrected in the re-release.

Senran Kagura was supposed to include the OVAs, but at the very last minute Funimation said nope and acted like they never knew anything about that the Blu-ray pre-order was saying that it does.

Afro Samurai Resurrection Blu-ray was supposed to be in 5.1 Dolby TrueHD but was actually 5.1 Dolby Digital. Exchange program was put in place and a Complete Collection was also made that fixes the problem.

Pop Team Epic’s Toonami Broadcast shows a Preview of episode 7 of Hoshiiro Girldrop after showing a Preview of episode 8 on episode 7 during the Male voices version. No translations on the French segments besides Japanese on episodes 7 & 9 but 1 & 3 do have English translations in the broadcast.

[Lambadelta]

Can we throw in attaching that stupid blu-ray cardboard box thing to the top of Shiki LEs, which when removed the glue pulled off the finish to the LE box.

[nagpo]

This is going to be a great thread. A lot of Discotek titles had sub issues but it's really not that big a deal.

[professorwho]

It's gonna be a pain to add everything from everyone... but I'll try.