Christopher Nolan and Paul Thomas Anderson Declare War on Motion Smoothing - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

stvn1974 · 09-12-2018, 04:52 AM

I turned the motion flow on my TV on just because Nolan is against it.

ArrestedDevelopment · 09-12-2018, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by stvn1974

I turned the motion flow on my TV on just because Nolan is against it.

Arawn · 09-12-2018, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by aiman04

My TV can turn that off.

My TV can't turn it off... but it can make it worse, if for some reason I should want such a thing.

Including the option to completely black out the picture.

How this feature could be construed as something the customer would want is beyond me. Seems more like sociopathic climate ideologue bullshit.

Star Lord · 09-12-2018, 05:13 AM

I turned that off years before Nolan even mentioned it.

Wildcat2000 · 09-12-2018, 06:11 AM

I know what the effect is but I didn’t know it had a term.

All I ever setup on my TVs are color/contrast etc to 50-50. I have no idea if motion smoothing is currently on or not. I don’t think it is. My HD programming looks normal to me.

Monroville · 09-12-2018, 06:31 AM

I would rather have the option and not need or use it, than want an option and have it taken away.

I do not understand why Real 3D is not on any of the 4K HDTVs being sold anymore, considering that it is a program that exists and all they have to do is install a chip. What does it cost? $100? $50? Why can't I at least special order a 4K TV with the 3D option and spend an extra $100 for the option? They slap in a chip and get more money. Instead, they delete tech "just because"?

Personally, I would much rather have Real 3D than 4K. Short of a 100" screen or larger, 4K isn't that much more detail than what I get on my 65" HDTV. Sure, I can tell a difference.. just not so much as to blow me away.

Real 3D is a completely new experience (I never knew the creatures from IT CAME FROM OUTER SPACE had a single arm sticking out to grab people with, much less that their eyes were on stalks that extended from their bodies until seeing it in 3D), and there are plenty of movies that would be really interesting to see converted to 3D (JAWS, THE ROAD WARRIOR, 2001).

Steedeel · 09-12-2018, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stvn1974

I turned the motion flow on my TV on just because Nolan is against it.

Why soooo sssssssserious?

Steedeel · 09-12-2018, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat2000

I know what the effect is but I didn’t know it had a term.

All I ever setup on my TVs are color/contrast etc to 50-50. I have no idea if motion smoothing is currently on or not. I don’t think it is. My HD programming looks normal to me.

How can you not know? It’s fairly obvious.

Steedeel · 09-12-2018, 09:33 AM

I agree 100% with Nolan. About bloody time too.

harry keogh · 09-12-2018, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Synchg

i watched magnolia for the first time today, free on vudu, what ****in garbage, i couldnt take it anymore 3/4 of the way in

That film is going to pop into your head, next week, month from now, whenever. You didn't like what you saw, but it is going to stick around in your head.

IndyMLVC · 09-12-2018, 11:39 AM

My bff always has this on. It drives me nuts and I can't watch tv when I go to her house.

It's also 4k and she only streams things. Never watches the disc, even if she owns it.

And then she wonders why everything looks so great when she comes to my place and watches movies.

scifisuperfan · 09-12-2018, 12:03 PM

Good luck Nolan. Because every 4K TV on the market as up to 1200MHZ of motion flow. I dont even know what that is. Im on my old FHD 1080p TV at 60HZ and there is no Motion FLow option. There is 24p but i kinda prefer to watch movies at 60Hz with IVTC on. I know it has the so called judder effect but if I am not looking for it i barely notice it. The Soap Opera effect is much worst. 24p should be better but somehow the sound gets oos so i ditched it.

cgpublic · 09-12-2018, 12:25 PM

"I am... in a world... of motion smoothing." Live 24p or Die is my motto:

avs commenter · 09-12-2018, 12:30 PM

I have a new 4K Vizio and the factory settings had the motion smoothing turned off

Lutz · 09-12-2018, 02:22 PM

Did any of you actually read the article?

This thread is 100% filled with comments that read the thread header and have nothing to do with what they're proposing.

GLaDOS · 09-12-2018, 02:29 PM

I thought motion smoothing was cool at first, but nowadays I prefer it turned off. I don't like weird judder in my 4K display.

Unless we're watching The Hobbit movies, since Peter Jackson did shoot at a high frame rate.

imsounoriginal · 09-12-2018, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kylo Ren

Christopher Nolan is God and everything he says is LAW and FACT! Don't you dare criticize him or any of his masterpieces of movies... don't you dare!

Nolan is just like any other director, he makes good movies and bad ones. Deal with it.

But he's right about this.

Steedeel · 09-12-2018, 03:06 PM

The Dark Knight, nuff said.

The end.

Nolan is the man.

IndyMLVC · 09-12-2018, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lutz

Did any of you actually read the article?

This thread is 100% filled with comments that read the thread header and have nothing to do with what they're proposing.

Yes. What's your beef?

cheez avenger · 09-12-2018, 03:18 PM

Good article and it makes sense.

BTW, if you watch your films with that garbage setting on then you really have no room to even speak on video presentation...EVER.

09-12-2018, 12:25 PM	#33
cgpublic Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Gotham 4K collection:793 Blu-ray collection:2403 DVD collection:60 MA collection:470 Digital collection:113 iTunes collection:590 Blu-ray reviews: 56 Trading Score:8	Full Motion Jacket "I am... in a world... of motion smoothing." Live 24p or Die is my motto:

09-12-2018, 04:52 AM	#21
stvn1974 Banned Member since:Jan 2012 Location:Earth Trading Score:18	I turned the motion flow on my TV on just because Nolan is against it.

09-12-2018, 05:13 AM	#24
Star Lord Blu-ray Champion Member since:Mar 2017 Location:Knowhere 4K collection:34 Blu-ray collection:177	I turned that off years before Nolan even mentioned it.

09-12-2018, 06:11 AM	#25
Wildcat2000 Power Member Member since:Jan 2017 Location:USA Blu-ray collection:9	I know what the effect is but I didn’t know it had a term. All I ever setup on my TVs are color/contrast etc to 50-50. I have no idea if motion smoothing is currently on or not. I don’t think it is. My HD programming looks normal to me.

09-12-2018, 06:31 AM	#26
Monroville Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Louisville, KY Blu-ray reviews: 20 Trading Score:30	I would rather have the option and not need or use it, than want an option and have it taken away. I do not understand why Real 3D is not on any of the 4K HDTVs being sold anymore, considering that it is a program that exists and all they have to do is install a chip. What does it cost? $100? $50? Why can't I at least special order a 4K TV with the 3D option and spend an extra $100 for the option? They slap in a chip and get more money. Instead, they delete tech "just because"? Personally, I would much rather have Real 3D than 4K. Short of a 100" screen or larger, 4K isn't that much more detail than what I get on my 65" HDTV. Sure, I can tell a difference.. just not so much as to blow me away. Real 3D is a completely new experience (I never knew the creatures from IT CAME FROM OUTER SPACE had a single arm sticking out to grab people with, much less that their eyes were on stalks that extended from their bodies until seeing it in 3D), and there are plenty of movies that would be really interesting to see converted to 3D (JAWS, THE ROAD WARRIOR, 2001).

09-12-2018, 09:33 AM	#29
Steedeel Blu-ray King Member since:Apr 2011 Location:England 4K collection:284 Blu-ray collection:1253	I agree 100% with Nolan. About bloody time too.

09-12-2018, 11:39 AM	#31
IndyMLVC Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:New York City, NY 4K collection:296 Blu-ray collection:738 DVD collection:58 Digital collection:754 iTunes collection:2 Trading Score:62	My bff always has this on. It drives me nuts and I can't watch tv when I go to her house. It's also 4k and she only streams things. Never watches the disc, even if she owns it. And then she wonders why everything looks so great when she comes to my place and watches movies.

09-12-2018, 12:03 PM	#32
scifisuperfan Banned Member since:Aug 2018	Good luck Nolan. Because every 4K TV on the market as up to 1200MHZ of motion flow. I dont even know what that is. Im on my old FHD 1080p TV at 60HZ and there is no Motion FLow option. There is 24p but i kinda prefer to watch movies at 60Hz with IVTC on. I know it has the so called judder effect but if I am not looking for it i barely notice it. The Soap Opera effect is much worst. 24p should be better but somehow the sound gets oos so i ditched it.

09-12-2018, 12:30 PM	#34
avs commenter Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2018 Trading Score:8	I have a new 4K Vizio and the factory settings had the motion smoothing turned off

09-12-2018, 02:22 PM	#35
Lutz Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2012	Did any of you actually read the article? This thread is 100% filled with comments that read the thread header and have nothing to do with what they're proposing.

09-12-2018, 02:29 PM	#36
GLaDOS Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:May 2009 Location:Fujiwara Tofu Shop 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:114 Blu-ray reviews: 5	I thought motion smoothing was cool at first, but nowadays I prefer it turned off. I don't like weird judder in my 4K display. Unless we're watching The Hobbit movies, since Peter Jackson did shoot at a high frame rate.

09-12-2018, 03:06 PM	#38
Steedeel Blu-ray King Member since:Apr 2011 Location:England 4K collection:284 Blu-ray collection:1253	The Dark Knight, nuff said. The end. Nolan is the man.

09-12-2018, 03:18 PM	#40
cheez avenger Blu-ray Champion Member since:Dec 2009 4K collection:808 Blu-ray collection:1587 Trading Score:9	Good article and it makes sense. BTW, if you watch your films with that garbage setting on then you really have no room to even speak on video presentation...EVER.

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