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Old 01-27-2009, 05:54 PM   #1
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1080 - check
7.1 surround - check
30fps - big mistake by Guerilla..! UNcheck!

Reason COD4 has the best gameplay online is 60fps.. I haven't played a 30fps game that compares.
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Old 01-27-2009, 06:27 PM   #2
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1080 - check
7.1 surround - check
30fps - big mistake by Guerilla..! UNcheck!

Reason COD4 has the best gameplay online is 60fps.. I haven't played a 30fps game that compares.
30 fps, though not as nice as 60 fps, is great as long as it runs smooth and consistent.
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Old 01-27-2009, 06:34 PM   #3
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Ill take KZ2 over COD4 anyday. Heck Id take just about anything over cod4. What an insanely over-rated game.
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Old 01-27-2009, 06:35 PM   #4
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lol @ numbers pissing off people...use your eyes...
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Old 01-27-2009, 07:05 PM   #5
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I'm hopeful the online gameplay is nice and smooth...
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Old 01-27-2009, 06:33 PM   #6
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30fps - big mistake by Guerilla..! UNcheck!

Reason COD4 has the best gameplay online is 60fps.. I haven't played a 30fps game that compares.
Your eyes adjust. Movies are recorded in 24fps. Most NSTC/ATSC video content are recorded in 30fps but do you see people complain?


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Old 01-27-2009, 07:08 PM   #7
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Your eyes adjust. Movies are recorded in 24fps. Most NSTC/ATSC video content are recorded in 30fps but do you see people complain?


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True if we were talking about movies or NSTC/ATSC video content.
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Old 01-28-2009, 03:51 AM   #8
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True if we were talking about movies or NSTC/ATSC video content.
What does that mean? Your brain just melts watching video game not in 60fps?

Like I said, your brain adjust. 1080p60 would be ideal but it's not in the cards. Just like how I'd like every new album to be released in multichannel SACD, but that's just not going to happen. You still get to enjoy it.


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Old 01-28-2009, 04:37 AM   #9
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What does that mean? Your brain just melts watching video game not in 60fps?

Like I said, your brain adjust. 1080p60 would be ideal but it's not in the cards. Just like how I'd like every new album to be released in multichannel SACD, but that's just not going to happen. You still get to enjoy it.


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well said
30fps is good enough as long as there's no large framedrops
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Old 01-28-2009, 04:50 AM   #10
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Your eyes adjust. Movies are recorded in 24fps. Most NSTC/ATSC video content are recorded in 30fps but do you see people complain?


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Yeah, I do actually. I'm one of them, movies are so much better at higher framerates (some iMax presentations are).. It's a shame they've stuck with such a stone age format of 24fps per movies but it makes sense economically.

Well I can dream of one day movies having butter smooth pans instead of juddery panning shots..


I still love my blu-rays, but the formats standards should have evolved a long time ago for better immersion.
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Uncharted is 720p/30fps and it looks and plays fantastic.
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you're always going to be able to make a game better with higher frame rates and greater resolutions. but when the game has already been credited with raising the technical bar in all console games, they must have done something right.

someday all games will be 1080p and 60+ fps, but by then we could have 1600+p TV's and complain when the new games don't max out the technology.
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I just read the review in Playstation magazine. 5 out of 5 stars and Editors Choice award...not bad. From what I see the video looks gorgeous and now I find out 7.1 audio, very cool.
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my only thing with 30frames per second(fps) is this.......

i had all pro football 2k8 for 360

sold 360/games & bought a ps3 and got all pro football 2k8 for ps3

360 apf 2k8 = 60fps

ps3 apf 2k8 = 30fps

and let me tell you....you can feel/see the difference. it seems like the players are more "herky-jerky" and not as fuild as the 360 version.

another prime example was madden 08 . ps3 = 36fps. 360 = 60fps
play that game on both systems and tell me one isnt more fluid than the other.

in this day & age...ESPECIALLY on a ps3 blu ray disc(50gb) i expect everything to be 1080p/60fps/7.1 sound

since we cant compare killzone 2 to another version of killzone 2 running 60fps vs 30fps maybe we wont know the difference, but we all will know that the game can and should be smoother
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:05 PM   #15
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my only thing with 30frames per second(fps) is this.......

i had all pro football 2k8 for 360

sold 360/games & bought a ps3 and got all pro football 2k8 for ps3

360 apf 2k8 = 60fps

ps3 apf 2k8 = 30fps

and let me tell you....you can feel/see the difference. it seems like the players are more "herky-jerky" and not as fuild as the 360 version.

another prime example was madden 08 . ps3 = 36fps. 360 = 60fps
play that game on both systems and tell me one isnt more fluid than the other.

in this day & age...ESPECIALLY on a ps3 blu ray disc(50gb) i expect everything to be 1080p/60fps/7.1 sound

since we cant compare killzone 2 to another version of killzone 2 running 60fps vs 30fps maybe we wont know the difference, but we all will know that the game can and should be smoother
lol and just how many games out there are 1080p@60FPS???
How many look as good as Killzone2??

The answer to both is zero (besides wipeoutHD being 1080p@60fps)
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my only thing with 30frames per second(fps) is this.......

i had all pro football 2k8 for 360

sold 360/games & bought a ps3 and got all pro football 2k8 for ps3

360 apf 2k8 = 60fps

ps3 apf 2k8 = 30fps

and let me tell you....you can feel/see the difference. it seems like the players are more "herky-jerky" and not as fuild as the 360 version.

another prime example was madden 08 . ps3 = 36fps. 360 = 60fps
play that game on both systems and tell me one isnt more fluid than the other.

in this day & age...ESPECIALLY on a ps3 blu ray disc(50gb) i expect everything to be 1080p/60fps/7.1 sound

since we cant compare killzone 2 to another version of killzone 2 running 60fps vs 30fps maybe we wont know the difference, but we all will know that the game can and should be smoother
THANK YOU, someone gets it!
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Old 01-28-2009, 03:29 PM   #17
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in this day & age...ESPECIALLY on a ps3 blu ray disc(50gb) i expect everything to be 1080p/60fps/7.1 sound

since we cant compare killzone 2 to another version of killzone 2 running 60fps vs 30fps maybe we wont know the difference, but we all will know that the game can and should be smoother
No argument that there is a difference from 30fps and 60fps, and believe me I'd love 60fps all the time if possible.

but the blu-ray disc with (50gb) isn't what can make a game be 1080p 60fps. It's the hardware paired with the talent of the developers. Often being trade offs. So no we all don't know know KZ2 should be smoother, it may not be possible with the level of effects, physics, etc going on in the game. There is no reason the dev's wouldn't support that resolution and framerate if they could get it to work properly and retain all the physics, texture details, etc.
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