Halloween 4K UHD (1978) - Page 72 - Blu-ray Forum

slimdude · 09-21-2018, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexIlDottore

but I thought you said he watches over his investments. can he do that and not care at the same time?

He doesn't give a rats behind about what the studio do with the soundtrack. All he cares about is the money. Money talks and bulls**t walks!

mar3o · 09-21-2018, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by lilboyblu

mar3o, you have the H:II corrected disc. The lossy was in the 5.1 on the first pressing.

Edit: There are screenshots in that disc’s dedicated thread of the audio menus on both discs. They’re behind the spoiler.

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Originally Posted by Ruined

Sorry I wasn't clear, you have the corrected disc. The original disc had no DTS-MA tracks, the corrected one has 5.1 in MA. Just wanted to give people buying the release a heads up that there was a corrected disc - FYI the corrected disc also restores Moustapha Akkad to the credits, who was missing from the original disc.

Also in this case, while the original 2.0 is lossy it is 768kbps, which is a very low compression rate (3:1) and thus probably sounds the same as lossless anyway.

Thanks! Geez, I remember that fiasco now with the Moustapha Akkad credit. I do have the replacement disc because I remember sending out for it because of the Moustapha Akkad credit. I didn't know it also improved the audio, which is why I was confused if I had the right disc.

ambient_indie · 09-21-2018, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mar3o

Thanks! Geez, I remember that fiasco now with the Moustapha Akkad credit. I do have the replacement disc because I remember sending out for it because of the Moustapha Akkad credit. I didn't know it also improved the audio, which is why I was confused if I had the right disc.

What did that MCA credit look like? I don't have the Universal disc, but I was extremely puzzled originally where Universal dug that up and why it was there in the first place? Every release I've seen of Halloween 2 had the Moustapha Akkad credit. Does anyone know?

AlexIlDottore · 09-21-2018, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by slimdude

He doesn't give a rats behind about what the studio do with the soundtrack. All he cares about is the money. Money talks and bulls**t walks!

Which brings us full circle: As Dr West said, Carpentar probably isn't aware of the issue.

AKORIS · 09-21-2018, 05:45 AM

screw all this... just ordered it. I want to see HALLOWEEN in 4k and from what I can tell so far... it's going to look great.

The audio issue is minor... the examples of imperfections so far are minimal and not enough to ruin the experience for me at all.

This movie has been released so many times, and has had so many variances from the original version I wouldn't even know what's "normal" anymore....

Q-Tip · 09-21-2018, 05:51 AM

When companies like Shout Factory start doing 4K releases of classic/independent films down the road, I can see a 4K Halloween Boxset released. Pretty much like the Blu box. That would be sweet. Probably the only way we'll get the real Mono soundtrack. Haha

slimdude · 09-21-2018, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexIlDottore

As Dr West said, Carpentar probably isn't aware of the issue.

If he was aware of this matter, there's nothing he can do about it. What do you think he'll do - ask for a recall? well that's not going to happen because, he'll be losing money... As far as Halloween is concern, John Carpenter is through. Halloween has been released on DVD and Blu-ray numerous of times, and he's getting royalties from each and every unit that's sold worldwide, and that's all he cares about.

AlexIlDottore · 09-21-2018, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by slimdude

If he was aware of this matter, there's nothing he can do about it. What do you think he'll do - ask for a recall? well that's not going to happen because, he'll be losing money... As far as Halloween is concern, John Carpenter is through. Halloween has been released on DVD and Blu-ray numerous of times, and he's getting royalties from each and every unit that's sold, and that's all he cares about.

As he probably isn't even aware of the issue, I haven't bothered imagining what he'd do if he found out.

btw a recall wouldn't cost Carpenter money, it would cost the label money

Noremac Mij · 09-21-2018, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Q-Tip

When companies like Shout Factory start doing 4K releases of classic/independent films down the road, I can see a 4K Halloween Boxset released. Pretty much like the Blu box. That would be sweet. Probably the only way we'll get the real Mono soundtrack. Haha

With Shout!, you'll also get a YouTube like compression.

slimdude · 09-21-2018, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexIlDottore

btw a recall wouldn't cost Carpenter money, it would cost the label money

John will be losing money if there was a recall because, the copies will be shipped back to the manufacturer, and not be able to be sold, until they be reissued. Since there is not a major A/V defect, a recall is out of the question.

AlexIlDottore · 09-21-2018, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by slimdude

If he was aware of this matter, there's nothing he can do about it. What do you think he'll do - ask for a recall? well that's not going to happen because, he'll be losing money... As far as Halloween is concern, John Carpenter is through. Halloween has been released on DVD and Blu-ray numerous of times, and he's getting royalties from each and every unit that's sold worldwide, and that's all he cares about.

As for not caring, carpenter and cundy both approved the transfer and the hdr grade.

Yep. he's definitely through with Halloween.

AlexIlDottore · 09-21-2018, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by slimdude

John will be losing money if there was a recall because, the copies will be shipped back to the manufacturer, and not be able to be sold, until they be reissued. Since there is not a major A/V defect, a recall is out of the question.

Nobody spoke about a recall until you brought it up. we've been hoping for replacement discs.

BNex99 · 09-21-2018, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by xbs2034

I'm not a huge fan of the film nor own the UHD, but I thought the sound mix for Grease is a 5.1 based on the original 6 track mix for 70mm showings.

For the UHD and new BD, yes. But the original BD and all the previous DVDs had the goofy '98 remix.

DR Herbert West · 09-21-2018, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

With Shout!, you'll also get a YouTube like compression.

Back in 2012 -2014, sure. They have improved quite a bit since then.

DR Herbert West · 09-21-2018, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by slimdude

If he was aware of this matter

If? I Thought you said Carpenter was fully aware of all issues with this release?

Q-Tip · 09-21-2018, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

With Shout!, you'll also get a YouTube like compression.

Haha For real. I really hate that on most releases. Pitiful.

Cook · 09-21-2018, 08:54 AM

Why would Lionsgate issue replacement discs just to add a decades old audio track in an audio format that has been outdated for decades and is in extremely small demand? Especially when the UHD has a perfectly capable 7.1 track. The 7.1 track is the one they want people to use and enjoy. That's why it's the default and it being the default means the majority of viewers will be using that one and wont stop to consider or care about any other "lesser" audio options.

I'd like to have the mono track, too, but let's not act as if there is some huge demand for it. We and others like us on this forum are a minority of people that dont reflect the general buyer and general movie viewer. We are wanting something with very niche appeal. It's always a priviledge to get an original audio track, but it's not something studios owe us.

Recalls and replacement programs are intended to fix broken releases. Releases that dont function properly due to one reason or another. Or to fix a disc that was missing an advertised feature. The lack of an old mono track doesnt break the disc or cause any functional problems or afaik constitute false advertisement. So it's pointless to even hope for or expect a replacement program.

DR Herbert West · 09-21-2018, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cook

Recalls and replacement programs are intended to fix broken releases. Releases that dont function properly due to one reason or another. Or to fix a disc that was missing an advertised feature. The lack of an old mono track doesnt break the disc or cause any functional problems or afaik constitute false advertisement. So it's pointless to even hope for or expect a replacement program.

The packaging clearly states that it includes the mono track. Having the track be just a mixdown is false advertising.

RustinCohle · 09-21-2018, 11:11 AM

After all the emails and free discs from Hell or High Water and now this, Lionsgate will probably just give up on making 4k discs.

Martoto · 09-21-2018, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

The packaging clearly states that it includes the mono track. Having the track be just a mixdown is false advertising.

The packaging just says "English Mono - Dolby Digital". That doesn't preclude it being a mixdown, unfortunately.

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09-21-2018, 05:45 AM	#1425
AKORIS Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Beautiful Pacific Northwest 4K collection:662 Blu-ray collection:3655 Blu-ray reviews:19	screw all this... just ordered it. I want to see HALLOWEEN in 4k and from what I can tell so far... it's going to look great. The audio issue is minor... the examples of imperfections so far are minimal and not enough to ruin the experience for me at all. This movie has been released so many times, and has had so many variances from the original version I wouldn't even know what's "normal" anymore....

09-21-2018, 05:51 AM	#1426
Q-Tip Senior Member Member since:Apr 2018 4K collection:161 Blu-ray collection:520 Trading Score:40	When companies like Shout Factory start doing 4K releases of classic/independent films down the road, I can see a 4K Halloween Boxset released. Pretty much like the Blu box. That would be sweet. Probably the only way we'll get the real Mono soundtrack. Haha

09-21-2018, 08:54 AM	#1437
Cook Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2009 4K collection:305 Blu-ray collection:1261 Digital collection:2 Trading Score:2	Why would Lionsgate issue replacement discs just to add a decades old audio track in an audio format that has been outdated for decades and is in extremely small demand? Especially when the UHD has a perfectly capable 7.1 track. The 7.1 track is the one they want people to use and enjoy. That's why it's the default and it being the default means the majority of viewers will be using that one and wont stop to consider or care about any other "lesser" audio options. I'd like to have the mono track, too, but let's not act as if there is some huge demand for it. We and others like us on this forum are a minority of people that dont reflect the general buyer and general movie viewer. We are wanting something with very niche appeal. It's always a priviledge to get an original audio track, but it's not something studios owe us. Recalls and replacement programs are intended to fix broken releases. Releases that dont function properly due to one reason or another. Or to fix a disc that was missing an advertised feature. The lack of an old mono track doesnt break the disc or cause any functional problems or afaik constitute false advertisement. So it's pointless to even hope for or expect a replacement program.

09-21-2018, 11:11 AM	#1439
RustinCohle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2016 Trading Score:238	After all the emails and free discs from Hell or High Water and now this, Lionsgate will probably just give up on making 4k discs.

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