Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Vilya

The amazing thing is how affordable all of the new parts are; I was pleasantly surprised!

It's insane. My goto on this subject is always my first real hard drive. Roughly twenty years ago I dropped three hundred bucks for a 120meg IDE hard drive. It was freaking awesome.

I just got a mail from newegg touting a 1T SSD for like $350.

And many of us are carrying phones around that are orders of magnitudes more powerful than our first computers.

Hell, I have wall sockets that have more powerful computers than the stuff in the Apollo space craft

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Vilya

It is afflicted with the black screen with mouse pointer issue and it gets trapped in endless attempts to repair the hard drive. I have never worked in the confined spaces of a laptop's interior before, but I do have some tried and true profanities ready to yell at it.

Understood. My HP Envy Touchsmart 17, purchase 03/2014, started having HDD problems right after the warranty expired. I replaced it with a WD HDD (5400RPM) and it was a fair amount slower than the Samsung Spinpoint so I replaced that drive with a Samsung SSD. With the SSD it is like a different computer. One the best upgrades I ever made.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by flyry

He is a casual film fan. Always asking if I'm going to see stuff like venom or creed 2.

I'm a cineaste (or are we back to being cinephiles? I can never keep up) and I can't wait for those to hit Redbox or Netflix

[flyry]

Originally Posted by dublinbluray108

I just heard now from this site that Google Play are upgrading movies to 4K for free.

More details here.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...09&postcount=1

This is great news coming from Google. But people will be happy with this if the apps they use to stream them can work properly to play the movies in the first place.

I'll paste what i said on there:

This is cool if true,but their lack of devices for 4k playback makes this kinda useless.

I'm not buying a chromecast ultra just for it.

I should be able to play them on my roku or native TV app.

Now if it somehow changes your entitlements to UHD and i can watch them on VUDU because of MA then this is huge

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Understood. My HP Envy Touchsmart 17, purchase 03/2014, started having HDD problems right after the warranty expired. I replaced it with a WD HDD (5400RPM) and it was a fair amount slower than the Samsung Spinpoint so I replaced that drive with a Samsung SSD. With the SSD it is like a different computer. One the best upgrades I ever made.

The pc, from which I most commonly post my delectable comments , has three half-TB Samsung SSDs inside it. Got room for plenty more if I ever need them.

The only conventional hard drive I own is a Western Digital external drive. I do not use it much now as having three SSDs more than covers any back-up needs that I have.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

I didn't ask him anything. I just said i was reading about blurays and he asked what bluray was. I didnt even bother responding.

He is a casual film fan. Always asking if I'm going to see stuff like venom or creed 2.

He did see Incredibles which even I never made it to

Well, there you are. Casual film fan as I expected.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by dublinbluray108

I just heard now from this site that Google Play are upgrading movies to 4K for free.

More details here.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...09&postcount=1

This is great news coming from Google. But people will be happy with this if the apps they use to stream them can work properly to play the movies in the first place.

Aren’t Google Play classed as the poorest of the big streaming services though? From what I have read, their bit rates are very low and apparently it shows.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Well, there you are. Casual film fan as I expected.

I was a casual film fan until I wasn't.

Who I was at 24 is not who I am now.

[The_Donster]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Well, there you are. Casual film fan as I expected.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by The_Donster

Me. Especially when some of my predictions come true.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by octagon

98SE, XP and Win7 were gifts from on high.

Originally Posted by Vilya

I already ordered a new SSD to replace the ancient conventional hard drive in it. All indicators point to a failing hard drive. I am adding more and new memory as well. I will be changing the OS to Windows 10 Pro so that there is more control over privacy settings.

The amazing thing is how affordable all of the new parts are; I was pleasantly surprised!

Good call, 6 years for a HDD is at the marginal state, and if you are getting BSOD it's time for a new HDD. Adding Memory is also a good call too, and there is nothing wrong with Windows 10. Octagon said 98SE, XP, Win7, but I go all the way back to DOS then Windows 3.0.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Good call, 6 years for a HDD is at the marginal state, and if you are getting BSOD it's time for a new HDD. Adding Memory is also a good call too, and there is nothing wrong with Windows 10. Octagon said 98SE, XP, Win7, but I go all the way back to DOS then Windows 3.0.

I gave up on Windows a long time ago. I’m all for MacBooks now and the IMac. I’m a console gamer these days so it seemed like the right choice. I use them for work and some image editing.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by alchav21

...but I go all the way back to DOS then Windows 3.0.

You ever use one of these?

[Show spoiler]

My high school had a donated IBM mainframe that we used to write (bad) Fortran programs for.

And this was the first computer game I ever played. (it wasn't on a monitor though, it was on a printer).

[Show spoiler]

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Me. Especially when some of my predictions come true.

You predicted, more like guessed, that someone you never met, based off a two sentence long account of a second-hand conversation, was a casual film fan? That's your big success story? I could have made the same guess with a high probability of accuracy without even that much information as there are legions of casual film fans.

This is the only "prediction", guess, of yours that I can recall even loosely coming true. I would ask what the others were, but I am afraid you would actually tell me.

Last I checked, movies and TVs were still being made, sold, and enjoyed. Did something happen in the last few hours that I am unaware of? I have been busy with this laptop business and I could have missed the collapse of both.

I was trying to allow us both to enjoy that "long breather" foretold of yore, but if you are going to keep telling funnies I will have to laugh.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

You predicted, more like guessed, that someone you never met, based off a two sentence long account of a second-hand conversation, was a casual film fan? That's your big success story? I could have made the same guess with a high probability of accuracy without even that much information as there are legions of casual film fans.

This is the only "prediction", guess, of yours that I can recall even loosely coming true. I would ask what the others were, but I am afraid you would actually tell me.

Last I checked, movies and TVs were still being made, sold, and enjoyed. Did something happen in the last few hours that I am unaware of? I have been busy with this laptop business and I could have missed the collapse of both.

I was trying to allow us both to enjoy that "long breather" foretold of yore, but if you are going to keep telling funnies I will have to laugh.

That’s not what I was talking about.

Others? Well, it’s a bit hard to prove a prediction is correct because it hasn’t happened yet.

Certainly, my last one was the correct call that UV would be all but dead by 2020. People laughed, then they moved their movies over to Movies Anywhere. Before anyone states it was obvious, I predicted this years ago before Disney’ Keychest was a thing. It went unnoticed, am I surprised? Nope.

I suspect the goal posts will be moved once again once another prediction comes true. That’s human nature for some I’m afraid. However, I will be there to jolt memories.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by octagon

You ever use one of these?

[Show spoiler]

My high school had a donated IBM mainframe that we used to write (bad) Fortran programs for.

And this was the first computer game I ever played. (it wasn't on a monitor though, it was on a printer).

[Show spoiler]

I remember using a data card puncher much like the one in your attached picture, except we were writing silly little programs in the ancient RPG II language for high school credit. We had a card reader that would transmit the data over the phone lines to the mainframe at our local university and usually on the next day our classroom printer, the size a washing machine and as loud as two of them, would print the results of our programming prowess.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

That’s not what I was talking about.

Thanks for NOT elaborating then.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Thanks for NOT elaborating then.

Anytime.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

It wasn't even asked at all; so your post WAS irrelevant. At no point in flyry's post did he say that he asked his co-worker if he knew about blu-ray.com's website. In fact, in flyry's post all the questions being asked were asked by the co-worker.

What is actually written matters; you added something to flyry's post that was never there and then made fun of flyry for something he never said. You allowed your bias towards flyry to cloud your judgment. Reading comprehension is ALWAYS important.

10 years ago this co-worker was 14 and he was possibly interested in other things typical of teenage males that age. How can you even pretend to know what his interests are based off a two sentence second-hand account of a conversation you were not a part of, yet alone assume what his future interests will be? Talk about being judgemental and diving to conclusions!

My interests have changed and evolved (there's that word you love again) over my lifetime many, many times and they will likely continue to change while also becoming more refined.

I was not born with an interest in films; I discovered them in a whole new way when I took a cinema class in the 80s. I was 24 at the time, coincidentally. At this time, vhs was the only way you could own a movie and collecting them was still impractical as many were not priced to sell. Many vhs tapes were meant to be rentals only and buying them cost $99.99 each in 1986! That's $230.30 in today's dollars; collecting was not viable then.

Hell, my Hi-Fi vcr cost $800 in 1987 -that's $1,777.74 today. Movie libraries were just unaffordable then; my pre-recorded store bought vhs tape collection was tiny. Many of us had to settle for taping off of cable television and buying stacks of decent blank tapes got expensive fast.

I was working a part time gig at an electronics store when I met a co-worker who was big into laserdiscs. He told me all about them: better image, better audio, and for the first time: movies presented in their correct aspect ratios. My interest in movies was rekindled. I could now own movies on a vastly superior format and I have been a voracious film collector ever since and I will continue until I die. You never know when you will meet someone, or experience an event, that forever changes you even in an area as simple as one's hobbies.

You friends with Flyry now?

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

That’s not what I was talking about.

Others? Well, it’s a bit hard to prove a prediction is correct because it hasn’t happened yet.

Certainly, my last one was the correct call that UV would be all but dead by 2020. People laughed, then they moved their movies over to Movies Anywhere. Before anyone states it was obvious, I predicted this years ago before Disney’ Keychest was a thing. It went unnoticed, am I surprised? Nope.

I suspect the goal posts will be moved once again once another prediction comes true. That’s human nature for some I’m afraid. However, I will be there to jolt memories.

Now you done gone and elaborated.

You just said some, plural, of your predictions had come true and, if so, that would "prove" them, wouldn't it? See how that works?

UV essentially still exists, but just under a different name now. All you did was predict that a specific flavor went kaput, not an entire product or industry. I can predict that Sears will file bankruptcy very soon; does that mean all big box stores are similarly ill fated? At the most basic level there is a 50/50 chance that any specific business will fail. Again, more like guesswork than prognostication.

Had you predicted the exact date of, and exact manner of, UV's failure, that would be something. You didn't, so it isn't terribly impressive as what UV formerly did is still being done, just under a different name now.