Halloween 4K UHD (1978) - Page 166 - Blu-ray Forum

jEN0VA · 10-30-2018, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bradnoyes

Finally got my new 65OLEDE8 all set up and this was the first disc I popped this in. No flickering!

Now excuse me while I go back to my manic episode.

What were you using before when you had the flickering? I've been trying to figure out if the flickering is a disc issue or a TV one. Since you had the issue but apparently resolved it when switching to a new TV I'm thinking it might be evidence that this is a TV issue after all.

PuppetMasterBlu · 10-31-2018, 01:14 AM

Bought a 3 disc UHD case and put the 2 Scream Factory discs in with this one. Given that the cover is the same and it's a black case it fits in the box set nicely.

dcx4610 · 11-01-2018, 04:03 AM

Watched the 4K again for the 3rd time already.

If I'm nitpicking, I'm not a fan of the color timing. I know there's a long history and a ton of debate but the Halloween I grew up with had a warm look to it and the night scenes were bathed in blue moon light.

This release just looks too cool. It's probably more accurate to what was actually filmed but because of that, it certainly doesn't look like they are in Illinois in the fall. It feels like spring time because of the color and bright greens.

This is the Halloween I remember, not the one on the right (ignore the captions. I disagree).

Still a solid release with good grain, resolution and excellent sound mix. I just miss the old color timing...

Martoto · 11-01-2018, 09:09 AM

The look might be yellower in that shot. And there's nothing wrong with preferring it that way.

But nobody, surely, is fooled into thinking it's Illinois at the end of October just because of that?

KenHurd · 11-01-2018, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PuppetMasterBlu

Bought a 3 disc UHD case and put the 2 Scream Factory discs in with this one. Given that the cover is the same and it's a black case it fits in the box set nicely.

I did the same, and I'll do the same for the sequels if they get released.

thethingwithnoname · 11-01-2018, 12:12 PM

watched last night (of course) as was saving it for the special day
Was v impressed, fantastic clear detailed image, I preferred the colours and saw things I'd not spotted previously. Clearly saw the shape in the car behind Loomis whereas previously recognised the car, but not the face in the car
What an awesome film too, did a double header of The Haunting (Original version, boy this needs a 4K release!!) followed by this, great stuff

Gamma_Winstead · 11-02-2018, 12:08 PM

Was just watching my copy, when I had a problem. Right after Laurie's walk home with Annie and Lynda, when Michael is in the yard by the sheets, the audio cut out and it started to skip frames. Is this a common issue?

DR Herbert West · 11-02-2018, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

Was just watching my copy, when I had a problem. Right after Laurie's walk home with Annie and Lynda, when Michael is in the yard by the sheets, the audio cut out and it started to skip frames. Is this a common issue?

No issue on my copy.

avs commenter · 11-02-2018, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Martoto

The look might be yellower in that shot. And there's nothing wrong with preferring it that way.

But nobody, surely, is fooled into thinking it's Illinois at the end of October just because of that?

Which begs the question....why have the movie set in IL if you can't make it look like IL? Especially if the location really doesn't have any influence on the story.

Martoto · 11-02-2018, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by avs commenter

Which begs the question....why have the movie set in IL if you can't make it look like IL? Especially if the location really doesn't have any influence on the story.

Because Illinois is synonymous with mid-west. the middle, anywhere USA. It could have been set in Haddonfield New Jersey, Debra Hill's home town. But New Jersey perhaps suggests a more specific east coast trappings and a context where you'd expect to see and hear east coast attitudes.

And because a lot fewer people actually know what it should look like than actually do. That majority that either don't or maybe think they ought to are likely to accept that the movie does look as it should. provided it doesn't undermine the storytelling. Which it doesn't.

Its perceived, material Illinoisnes is only an issue when people want to validate their home video release preferences, in my experience.

avs commenter · 11-02-2018, 01:31 PM

I love this movie, but I guess I can't help but nit pick some things. Watching it recently, there is a lot of silliness that hasn't aged the best.

Colson · 11-02-2018, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by avs commenter

I love this movie, but I guess I can't help but nit pick some things. Watching it recently, there is a lot of silliness that hasn't aged the best.

But we love it anyway

Martoto · 11-02-2018, 02:56 PM

I guess it's easier to notice stuff that can be discussed as flawed.

RobertPaulson · 11-03-2018, 03:35 PM

I thought I would finally join up, as I actually have something to share.

Recently got both the US and UK 4k releases. I thought it was odd that the US release advertises Dolby Vision on the packaging and the disc, but the UK release does not. Even so, the discs are both the same - even swapping from one to the other brings up the resume option.

As I still have a 1080p projector, my Oppo 203 is down-scaling 4k discs. Here in lies the problem. There is a limitation of the Oppo 203 which means that any 4k Dolby Vision content will be output at 1080p60.

When playing the US disc I had the flashing issue, so swapped to the UK disc and it was exactly the same. There is no issue playing through my 4k TV (which doesn't support Dolby Vision) but the Oppo is outputting at the correct 23.976Hz frame-rate.

I ripped the disc and played it back on my media player, which did allow me to output at 1080p 23.976Hz to my projector. No flashing issue, which was a relief as there is no way I could have sat through the whole movie with that going on.

So it looks like the flashing is introduced when there is some kind of picture processing going on. In my case it is in the player, but other people may have this issue if the TV is processing the incoming signal.

jEN0VA · 11-03-2018, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertPaulson

So it looks like the flashing is introduced when there is some kind of picture processing going on. In my case it is in the player, but other people may have this issue if the TV is processing the incoming signal.

Thank you for that detailed information on what seems to be the source of the problem. Does anyone know if there is a way to disable all processing through an LG OLED and Oppo 203? I always try to disable all processing anyway so as not to causing any audio lag and view movies the way the filmmakers intended, so I don't know what else I could disable.

RobertPaulson · 11-04-2018, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jEN0VA

Thank you for that detailed information on what seems to be the source of the problem. Does anyone know if there is a way to disable all processing through an LG OLED and Oppo 203? I always try to disable all processing anyway so as not to causing any audio lag and view movies the way the filmmakers intended, so I don't know what else I could disable.

I tried using the custom resolution setting on the Oppo 203 and set it to 1080p 24Hz, but this is ignored and it still outputs at 1080p 60Hz.

Jay Mammoth · 11-04-2018, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BluProofie

Mine shipped today and will arrive tomorrow! I know that the digital copy only redeems in HD, but is it at least the newer restoration?

What digital copy?

BluProofie · 11-04-2018, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

What digital copy?

Oops wrong thread.

jEN0VA · 11-04-2018, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertPaulson

I tried using the custom resolution setting on the Oppo 203 and set it to 1080p 24Hz, but this is ignored and it still outputs at 1080p 60Hz.

Oh ok. I get the flashing even on a 4K OLED TV that fully supports Dolby Vision. Tried it on my LG OLED and a Sony 900E, flashing on both. Flashing with HDR-10 as well. Regular 1080p Bluray has no flashing at all, so I don't know what the issue is. Gonna have to try a digital rip of the 4K UHD to see if that solves the issue like it did for you.

imsounoriginal · 11-06-2018, 12:46 AM

Didn't think I'd buy this but I found a lone copy at Best Buy and PM'd Amazon for $15, so what the hell.

Took the booklet and disc out of the 35th anniversary digibook I already have and will keep them with the UHD. Put the older transfer disc in the now-empty digibook, I'll just give it away to a friend.

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10-31-2018, 01:14 AM	#3302
PuppetMasterBlu Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Nov 2010 Location:USA 4K collection:438 Blu-ray collection:784 DVD collection:17 Trading Score:235	Bought a 3 disc UHD case and put the 2 Scream Factory discs in with this one. Given that the cover is the same and it's a black case it fits in the box set nicely.

11-01-2018, 04:03 AM	#3303
dcx4610 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2012 4K collection:647 Blu-ray collection:1255 DVD collection:7 Trading Score:21	Watched the 4K again for the 3rd time already. If I'm nitpicking, I'm not a fan of the color timing. I know there's a long history and a ton of debate but the Halloween I grew up with had a warm look to it and the night scenes were bathed in blue moon light. This release just looks too cool. It's probably more accurate to what was actually filmed but because of that, it certainly doesn't look like they are in Illinois in the fall. It feels like spring time because of the color and bright greens. This is the Halloween I remember, not the one on the right (ignore the captions. I disagree). Still a solid release with good grain, resolution and excellent sound mix. I just miss the old color timing...

11-01-2018, 09:09 AM	#3304
Martoto Blu-ray Duke Member since:Mar 2014 Location:Glasgow Blu-ray reviews: 7	The look might be yellower in that shot. And there's nothing wrong with preferring it that way. But nobody, surely, is fooled into thinking it's Illinois at the end of October just because of that?

11-01-2018, 12:12 PM	#3306
thethingwithnoname Senior Member Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Wales, UK Trading Score:12	watched last night (of course) as was saving it for the special day Was v impressed, fantastic clear detailed image, I preferred the colours and saw things I'd not spotted previously. Clearly saw the shape in the car behind Loomis whereas previously recognised the car, but not the face in the car What an awesome film too, did a double header of The Haunting (Original version, boy this needs a 4K release!!) followed by this, great stuff

11-02-2018, 12:08 PM	#3307
Gamma_Winstead Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:U.S.G. Ishimura 4K collection:118 Blu-ray collection:764 Blu-ray reviews: 36 Trading Score:6	Was just watching my copy, when I had a problem. Right after Laurie's walk home with Annie and Lynda, when Michael is in the yard by the sheets, the audio cut out and it started to skip frames. Is this a common issue?

11-02-2018, 01:31 PM	#3311
avs commenter Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2018 Trading Score:8	I love this movie, but I guess I can't help but nit pick some things. Watching it recently, there is a lot of silliness that hasn't aged the best.

11-02-2018, 02:56 PM	#3313
Martoto Blu-ray Duke Member since:Mar 2014 Location:Glasgow Blu-ray reviews: 7	I guess it's easier to notice stuff that can be discussed as flawed.

11-03-2018, 03:35 PM	#3314
RobertPaulson Member Member since:Nov 2018	I thought I would finally join up, as I actually have something to share. Recently got both the US and UK 4k releases. I thought it was odd that the US release advertises Dolby Vision on the packaging and the disc, but the UK release does not. Even so, the discs are both the same - even swapping from one to the other brings up the resume option. As I still have a 1080p projector, my Oppo 203 is down-scaling 4k discs. Here in lies the problem. There is a limitation of the Oppo 203 which means that any 4k Dolby Vision content will be output at 1080p60. When playing the US disc I had the flashing issue, so swapped to the UK disc and it was exactly the same. There is no issue playing through my 4k TV (which doesn't support Dolby Vision) but the Oppo is outputting at the correct 23.976Hz frame-rate. I ripped the disc and played it back on my media player, which did allow me to output at 1080p 23.976Hz to my projector. No flashing issue, which was a relief as there is no way I could have sat through the whole movie with that going on. So it looks like the flashing is introduced when there is some kind of picture processing going on. In my case it is in the player, but other people may have this issue if the TV is processing the incoming signal.

11-06-2018, 12:46 AM	#3320
imsounoriginal Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:NYC 4K collection:320 Blu-ray collection:947 DVD collection:70 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:59	Didn't think I'd buy this but I found a lone copy at Best Buy and PM'd Amazon for $15, so what the hell. Took the booklet and disc out of the 35th anniversary digibook I already have and will keep them with the UHD. Put the older transfer disc in the now-empty digibook, I'll just give it away to a friend.

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