Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by PCFan

Isn't it common for a person to buy the disc just to watch the movie once then resell their disc after they are done watching it? If they frequently resell their discs after watching them then cluttering is not an issue.

It is not a practice that I am personally aware of anyone doing. People usually buy movies with a mind to keep them, whether they buy a digital copy or a disc copy.

While there is a market for used discs, most titles don't command a very enticing price making selling them hardly worth the bother. You can often get a better price from just selling the slipcover alone on this very website; slipcover fans are a ravenous bunch. Lower shipping costs, too.

I give unwanted or duplicate titles to family or friends. If they don't want them, I donate them to either the public library or to hospitals. If all of that fails, I make sparkly mobiles out of them and hang them from the ceiling in a bright sunlit room- next best thing to a disco mirror ball.

[avs commenter]

Originally Posted by Vilya

While there is a market for used discs, most titles don't command a very enticing price making selling them hardly worth the bother.

I give unwanted or duplicate titles to family or friends. If they don't want them, I donate them to either the public library or to hospitals. If all of that fails, I make sparkly mobiles out of them and hang them from the ceiling in a bright sunlit room- next best thing to a disco mirror ball.

I've noticed this on Ebay. Disc's alone go for practically pennies. While digital copies go from $8-$15 depending on the title.

But if you don't care about having new shiny packaging, you can get discs from Ebay for very cheap. Though this market is probably pretty small.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by avs commenter

I've noticed this on Ebay. Disc's alone go for practically pennies. While digital copies go from $8-$15 depending on the title.

But if you don't care about having new shiny packaging, you can get discs from Ebay for very cheap. Though this market is probably pretty small.

There are other concerns with buying used discs such as what condition are they really in and will they play flawlessly all the way through. Some people are unwilling to take such risks and with buying sight unseen from an online seller.

Some used disc buyers prefer to buy from pawn or consignment shops where you can inspect the disc before buying it. You can also determine if it is a genuine disc or a burned copy. The last consignment shop I visited told me that used movies, even VHS tapes, sold very well, but they still sold for very little and as we all know anecdotal stories are the best evidence of overall market health.

The other problem with ebay, and buying discs from there in general, is that there are a LOT of bootlegs being sold there. Invariably when I read on these forums someone complaining about a bootleg, they bought it on ebay.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PCFan

Isn't it common for a person to buy the disc just to watch the movie once then resell their disc after they are done watching it? If they frequently resell their discs after watching them then cluttering is not an issue.

No, I would say that’s very uncommon as it kind of defeats the object of being a collector. I would even say it is stupid.

[avs commenter]

If an Ebay seller has great reviews/satisfaction numbers, I wouldn't be concerned at all

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by avs commenter

If an Ebay seller has great reviews/satisfaction numbers, I wouldn't be concerned at all

If you value quality and appreciate having a collection, why the heck would you scrape the barrel doing that?

[avs commenter]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

If you value quality and appreciate having a collection, why the heck would you scrape the barrel doing that?

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You're not making sense again

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by PCFan

Isn't it common for a person to buy the disc just to watch the movie once then resell their disc after they are done watching it? If they frequently resell their discs after watching them then cluttering is not an issue.

Why do that when there is Netflix By Mail or Redbox. Been renting media for over > 35 years, for titles that I like, I purchase. I've had a field in my database for long time labeled as PFRV (Potential For Repeat Viewing), got the idea from the Lasers Edge month flyers.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by avs commenter

If an Ebay seller has great reviews/satisfaction numbers, I wouldn't be concerned at all

While I am not an expert on such matters, I have read that such things can be faked. How true and how frequent, I dunno.

I am not afraid to buy from ebay, but I try to avoid it when it comes to buying discs. I trust buying from third party sellers on sites such as Amazon more, but they often charge more, too, creating a dilemma.

Still, some people don't like buying used discs sight unseen from online sellers. If you have pawn shops and the like near you, and most of us do, it is safer to buy used discs that you can actually examine beforehand.

The only time I shop for a used disc online is when I am seeking an OOP title; these can command hefty prices, whether they are new or used. I try to avoid being in such a disadvantageous position by closely monitoring this website, but despite my vigilance a title will slip thru my fingers now and again necessitating that I pay a ransom to get said title.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by gotmule

I know there are a lot of proud home theater owners on this forum with myself certainly being one of them

Do you have your anamorphic lens on a sled? Do you use the V Stretch on the 203 for 2.39 content? Do you have any problems with pincushion? If you use
V Stretch what do you do when playing a DV disc since it locks out the 203 video adjustment.

I'm still using the zoom method for 2.39 but still considering a A lens and sled. The Panamorph calculator says I will need to move my projector back almost 2 feet.

[Vilya]

^Do you have sleigh bells on your sled for the holidays?

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Vilya

^Do you have sleigh bells on your sled for the holidays?

I am seriously thinking of adding a sled after the holidays.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by avs commenter

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You're not making sense again

Let me explain in simple terms. As a disc collector, why not just buy a brand new, safe purchase with a online retailer like Amazon or HMV rather than risk getting a dud? I don’t know how simpler I can make my post. Or why buy second hand at all? Discs are not that expensive in the first place.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

While I am not an expert on such matters, I have read that such things can be faked. How true and how frequent, I dunno.

I am not afraid to buy from ebay, but I try to avoid it when it comes to buying discs. I trust buying from third party sellers on sites such as Amazon more, but they often charge more, too, creating a dilemma.

Still, some people don't like buying used discs sight unseen from online sellers. If you have pawn shops and the like near you, and most of us do, it is safer to buy used discs that you can actually examine beforehand.

The only time I shop for a used disc online is when I am seeking an OOP title; these can command hefty prices, whether they are new or used. I try to avoid being in such a disadvantageous position by closely monitoring this website, but despite my vigilance a title will slip thru my fingers now and again necessitating that I pay a ransom to get said title.

Same here, I just go for the safe option. If you are going to spend a large amount on discs, might as well get them brand new and from a well trusted source imo.

I pointed that out to av, it he is either being a **** or he genuinely has comprehension issues.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by PCFan

Isn't it common for a person to buy the disc just to watch the movie once then resell their disc after they are done watching it? If they frequently resell their discs after watching them then cluttering is not an issue.

I don't think too many people buy a new disc with the intention of selling it right away but I've seen a lot of people here on the fence about buying a title say something to the effect of 'eh, what the hell, if I don't like it I can always sell it'.

And people definitely do turn titles around quickly. Used outlets always have a decent supply of recently released discs.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

No, I would say that’s very uncommon as it kind of defeats the object of being a collector. I would even say it is stupid.

You do realize that 'collectors' are a relatively small subset of 'people who buy discs', right?

As for being stupid, I always thought buying toys and not playing with them was kind of goofy but what the hell do I really care if somebody wants to spend their own money on a toy they're not even going to take out of the package?

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Or why buy second hand at all?

I love buying used. It's a cheap way to pick up lower-priority titles and it can be a great way to pick up TV series.

GoHastings used to be freaking awesome. If you happened to be online when one of their coupons dropped you could snag some really cool stuff for next to nothing.

[Groot]

I've bought many used titles on or at Family Video, GoHastings, Blockbuster, Hollywood Video, etc. I've bought some steelbooks on eBay and picked up some OOP discs, all fine. You can't fake THOUSANDS of positive feedback. Trust your vendors or who cares, PayPal or eBay will refund you anyway.

[avs commenter]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Let me explain in simple terms. As a disc collector, why not just buy a brand new, safe purchase with a online retailer like Amazon or HMV rather than risk getting a dud? I don’t know how simpler I can make my post. Or why buy second hand at all? Discs are not that expensive in the first place.

The prices are often so low that the risk is minimal. And as I suspected, you are not a collector of film but rather of new shiny boxes.

LoL at all you disc nerds being scared of buying second hand. No wonder it’s dying. It’s worthless once it’s opened

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by avs commenter

The prices are often so low that the risk is minimal. And as I suspected, you are not a collector of film but rather of new shiny boxes.

LoL at all you disc nerds being scared of buying second hand. No wonder it’s dying. It’s worthless once it’s opened

Be honest? You have just came here to troll haven’t you? I suspected as much when I say your joining date as April 2018. Always a giveaway. Can’t be bothered with you, not even going to give you the time of day. That’s a first for me and especially in this thread.

Have a good day.

[Vilya]

I always look at the used movies when I am in a store that sells them. I might find a bargain or a rarity. I keep my options open.

I just don't typically browse used titles online because there it doesn't even occur to me unless I am looking for something that is OOP. In fairness, I have never received a bootleg from ebay; I check the seller reviews pretty closely.

Ironically, the only bootleg I ever got came from a third party seller on Amazon.com for a Korean TV show. I shoulda seen that coming, but one bootleg out of all of my purchases is still a pretty good track record.

Again, I do not worry about the resale value of discs as I do not sell mine. I buy things I plan to keep. Even so, whenever someone reminds me of how little a used disc is worth, I point out that it is still infinitely more than what a used digital code is worth. No option to resell those, is there?

If I did want to defray the cost of my purchases some, I could sell the slipcovers my discs come with. They are not important to me, but some people adore them. They, too, have a value unlike a used digital code or the packaging that they come in (when bought from a store).

My 7,324 discs, just the dvds and blus combined, have a resale value, however small it may be. My 96 digitally redeemed titles are completely worthless; I'll never see a dime from them. Thankfully, I am a collector, not an investor, so there is no need to worry in either case.

[avs commenter]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Be honest? You have just came here to troll haven’t you? I suspected as much when I say your joining date as April 2018. Always a giveaway. Can’t be bothered with you, not even going to give you the time of day. That’s a first for me and especially in this thread.

Have a good day.

So you think all newish members are tolls? Or this is your way to change the subject again after another poster made you look foolish