Blu-ray playback on a Mac (How-to and tips -- using BootCamp)

[dadkins]

I found it quite useful - for a Mac friend of mine.
It's just that when the overzealous Mac users make wild claims, they need to be corrected.
Self-policing might be helpful from the realist Mac users - sadly it rarely happens.

Suggestion though, within native Windows(XP and Vista) ArcSoft TMT is a bit better at most things when playing Blu-ray.
Get a copy and have a go at it with your setup and see if it is any better.
I'm sure the testing will be appreciated by all!

[brettallica]

Just for the record, I tried to say thanks!

As a fellow "crossy", I hate seeing these posts. Both operating systems have their benefits and detriments. Anyone who thinks "their" operating system is unequivocally better than the other is just being silly.

[Chevypower]

Originally Posted by dadkins

I found it quite useful - for a Mac friend of mine.
It's just that when the overzealous Mac users make wild claims, they need to be corrected.
Self-policing might be helpful from the realist Mac users - sadly it rarely happens.

Suggestion though, within native Windows(XP and Vista) ArcSoft TMT is a bit better at most things when playing Blu-ray.
Get a copy and have a go at it with your setup and see if it is any better.
I'm sure the testing will be appreciated by all!

It's one thing to be corrected, it's another to be "correct" on Macs by people who don't even use them....
Still, I am all for anybody voicing their opinion. Even, if it's not accurate, and consists of generalizations on people who use one type of computer or another.... or even both.

[dadkins]

Originally Posted by Chevypower

It's one thing to be corrected, it's another to be "correct" on Macs by people who don't even use them....
Still, I am all for anybody voicing their opinion. Even, if it's not accurate, and consists of generalizations on people who use one type of computer or another.... or even both.

So, you're saying that you can play a BD on your Mac on OSX without Windows?

[FendersRule]

Originally Posted by dadkins

So, you're saying that you can play a BD on your Mac on OSX without Windows?

Your reasoning is deeply flawed. Wanna know a secret?

You can play on BD on a Macintosh. Wow, was that so hard to figure out? Doesn't matter if it's through Ubuntu, OSX, or Windows. You can play BD on a Macintosh. Get it?

Guess what? Let's do some simple deductive reasoning.

PC = Windows, Linux

Macintosh = Windows, OSX, Linux.

Are you are trying to push your initiative by saying "Windows" does more? Guess what? Windows is something we call and Operating System. You need to learn more about hardware and software before posting here. Noted above, the Macintosh does more than the PC does. I am still waiting for an educated response from you. Until then, I will go open my cider port of Half-Life 2 on OSX.

[dadkins]

What is Bootcamp?
What is the purpose of Bootcamp?
As per the OP in this thread, for anyone to play a Blu-ray Disc on a Mac, you have to use Windows to do it.
OSX cannot do it!
Your Mac cannot play a Blu-ray Disc without booting to Windows in Bootcamp then running a Windows player software.

See how that works friend?

OS vs hardware?

Originally Posted by FendersRule

Why would 90% of the world feel they would need a PC, if Macs can do EVERYTHING that Windows can (Dual Boot)?

Mac is an OS?
Maybe you should learn to distinguish between the two, huh?


From the Original post in this thread:

"What you'll need:
A recent Intel-based MacBook, MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, iMac, or Mac Pro (with nvidia or ATI graphics) -- MacBook, MacBook Air, and Mac Mini with Intel graphics may work though playback will be mainly handled by the CPU, potentially causing stuttering playback
A BD-ROM or BD-R/RE drive -- I purchased the recently released FastMac APP-6907 External Slimline USB 2.0 BD-ROM drive, which is a portable unit that can actually be powered entirely by a Mac notebook with 2 USB ports
Windows XP 32-bit or Vista 32 or 64-bit -- I use Vista Business Edition 64-bit for this review
Blu-ray playback software -- I use Cyberlink PowerDVD 8 Ultra, though any of the Windows playback solutions should work

[ObiTrentKenobi]

Originally Posted by FendersRule

Your reasoning is deeply flawed. Wanna know a secret?

You can play on BD on a Macintosh. Wow, was that so hard to figure out? Doesn't matter if it's through Ubuntu, OSX, or Windows. You can play BD on a Macintosh. Get it?

Guess what? Let's do some simple deductive reasoning.

PC = Windows, Linux

Macintosh = Windows, OSX, Linux.

Are you are trying to push your initiative by saying "Windows" does more? Guess what? Windows is something we call and Operating System. You need to learn more about hardware and software before posting here. Noted above, the Macintosh does more than the PC does. I am still waiting for an educated response from you. Until then, I will go open my cider port of Half-Life 2 on OSX.

The WHOLE POINT of this argument, is why purchase an APPLE brand machine for a 1200+ dollars, when I can buy a PC (gateway, hp, sony etc) machine for half the price that has comparable specs (and will even play blurays)? Especially if you're going to put Windows on the APPLE machine anyway?? seems like a waste of money.

[Chevypower]

Originally Posted by ObiTrentKenobi

The WHOLE POINT of this argument, is why purchase an APPLE brand machine for a 1200+ dollars, when I can buy a PC (gateway, hp, sony etc) machine for half the price that has comparable specs (and will even play blurays)? Especially if you're going to put Windows on the APPLE machine anyway?? seems like a waste of money.

No OSX will not do EVERYTHING Windows will do.. I can't write to an NTFS formatted drive with OSX, so i use Fusion and XP for that, i also can't use Windows programs with OSX. I also can't read a OSX formatted drive with Windows XP, let alone write to it, nor can I use any of my Mac programs on XP. I do 95% of what I want to do using OSX and Mac programs. My Mac also won't wash my dishes, do my laundry, and other stuff. But if we want to compare what is more useful to me: Mac OSX or Windows XP, OSX by far! I don't know anyone who uses a Mac with Windows on it, and uses the Windows stuff more than their Mac stuff. Just saves you from having to buy another computer.

[ObiTrentKenobi]

Originally Posted by Chevypower

No OSX will not do EVERYTHING Windows will do.. I can't write to an NTFS formatted drive with OSX, so i use Fusion and XP for that, i also can't use Windows programs with OSX. I also can't read a OSX formatted drive with Windows XP, let alone write to it, nor can I use any of my Mac programs on XP. I do 95% of what I want to do using OSX and Mac programs. My Mac also won't wash my dishes, do my laundry, and other stuff. But if we want to compare what is more useful to me: Mac OSX or Windows XP, OSX by far! I don't know anyone who uses a Mac with Windows on it, and uses the Windows stuff more than their Mac stuff. Just saves you from having to buy another computer.

I'm happy to hear that you use OSX more on your !!!MAC!!! . I was the opposite, on my iMac I had to end up using Vista more... so that's why i sold the machine entirely and got a new desktop instead.

I've always had a PC, but i thought i'd try an Apple for a bit. I got 1000$ for it after a year of use, when i paid 1299$. Seemed like a good deal for me. I got a new Gateway for 715$, and it does everything the MAC did, and i had about 300 bucks left to buy some additional addons for it, i got a bluray burner/reader drive, and a Ram upgrade.
_

let's end this conflict! Both OS's have great features to them, i've always admitted it. this fight started with bluray playback, and having to run windows on the MAC for such a reason.

i'm tired...

[ObiTrentKenobi]

Originally Posted by FendersRule

Your reasoning is deeply flawed. Wanna know a secret?

You can play on BD on a Macintosh. Wow, was that so hard to figure out? Doesn't matter if it's through Ubuntu, OSX, or Windows. You can play BD on a Macintosh. Get it?

Guess what? Let's do some simple deductive reasoning.

PC = Windows, Linux

Macintosh = Windows, OSX, Linux.

Are you are trying to push your initiative by saying "Windows" does more? Guess what? Windows is something we call and Operating System. You need to learn more about hardware and software before posting here. Noted above, the Macintosh does more than the PC does. I am still waiting for an educated response from you. Until then, I will go open my cider port of Half-Life 2 on OSX.

Corrections:

PC = Windows, Linux, OSX (Yes, you can run leopard on intel machines through virtual machines, i've done it - and it's only 1 way to do it)

MAC = OSX, Linux, Windows

Also, Yes, honestly, Windows has more features and capabilites than the Apple's OS. Name 1 thing apple can do that windows cannot. (without the use of running bootcamp or a virtual machine using linux or windows, that degrades the whole point of the argument)

I haven't heard 1 response from ANYBODY on something MACS can do that Windows cannot... i'm waiting....

[Chevypower]

Originally Posted by dadkins

So, you're saying that you can play a BD on your Mac on OSX without Windows?

No, I am saying that there are more programs out there than Bootcamp... I always get customers asking "Oh, is that Bootcamp, you're using there?" Has the PC world not heard of Fusion? BTW isn't Toast 9 supposed to work with Blu-ray integration on a Mac? (without installing Windows). I haven't tried it yet, cos i haven't put a BD burner in the Mac Pro.

[dadkins]

Bootcamp, Fusion, Parallels... wouldn't know
Burning, I believe it will.
Playing a BD ROM movie, don't think Toast is a player, although I honestly cannot say.

EDIT: Just went and checked, no Toast will not play BD ROM.
Toast is a burning application/suite.

Thank you for a mature response!

[FendersRule]

Originally Posted by dadkins

I found it quite useful - for a Mac friend of mine.
It's just that when the overzealous Mac users make wild claims, they need to be corrected.
Self-policing might be helpful from the realist Mac users - sadly it rarely happens.

Suggestion though, within native Windows(XP and Vista) ArcSoft TMT is a bit better at most things when playing Blu-ray.
Get a copy and have a go at it with your setup and see if it is any better.
I'm sure the testing will be appreciated by all!

You are clearly mistaken, and you still insist on thinking you are right. You have no right to "correct" me. It is YOU that needs correcting.

Here's the fact. A Mac can do EVERYTHING a PC can. This is a FACT. Ever heard of boot camp? Look at my initial post and claim. I clearly said "Mac", and not "Mosx". You are wrong, and you just need to deal with it. Why are you posting in this thread if you have no information relevant to the topic?

[dadkins]

See what I mean?

One last time, bootcamp without Windows itself is a waste of time.
So, for your Mac to do everything you still have to use Windows to do it.

The topic is playing a Blu-ray on a Mac.
To do so, you have to use Windows. Period.
Like it or hate it, ya still need Windows.

[ObiTrentKenobi]

Originally Posted by FendersRule

You are clearly mistaken, and you still insist on thinking you are right. You have no right to "correct" me. It is YOU that needs correcting.

Here's the fact. A Mac can do EVERYTHING a PC can. This is a FACT. Ever heard of boot camp? Look at my initial post and claim. I clearly said "Mac", and not "Mosx". You are wrong, and you just need to deal with it. Why are you posting in this thread if you have no information relevant to the topic?

This quote is why the people who favor PC's are posting here...

Your quote basically says a MAC can do anything a PC can.......as long as it is running Windows XP of Vista either by bootcamp or a virtual machine.

do you understand the logic in that? You are admitting that the MAC hardware/OS can't do everything PC's can, if it doesn't have Windows on it.

I don't HATE MACS, or MAC users (like i've said a billion times, I use to use them myself), and I happen to believe that Final Cut Studio Pro is one of the absolute best video editors (1200$ i believe). but, I can use Sony Vegas 8 Pro on my PC, and I can edit all the HD content I want, I find Vegas comparable to Final Cut Pro.