Pioneer Elite BDP-LX500 - Page 17 - Blu-ray Forum

LordoftheRings · 12-19-2018, 02:25 AM

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JohnAV · 12-25-2018, 07:27 PM

REVIEW: PIONEER UDP-LX500 4K UHD BLU-RAY PLAYER - Stereo.net.au

RalphoR · 01-04-2019, 10:03 PM

I just got off the phone with a Magnolia Design Center manager and he told me Pioneer has discontinued the UDP-LX500 player and he can't get any. He believes a new Pioneer/Onkyo player will be revealed at CES. I wonder if Robert could comment on this as he is very connected with Pioneer and can validate if this is true.

gkolb · 01-04-2019, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RalphoR

I just got off the phone with a Magnolia Design Center manager and he told me Pioneer has discontinued the UDP-LX500 player and he can't get any. He believes a new Pioneer/Onkyo player will be revealed at CES. I wonder if Robert could comment on this as he is very connected with Pioneer and can validate if this is true.

Wonder if the LX-800 will be their only 4K player going forward, or a new model with a new SoC for 2019 is in the works?

I always thought that having two 4K models at potentially low sales volumes would be an issue for them.

RalphoR · 01-04-2019, 11:12 PM

I can't imagine a $2k+ player doing well anywhere. Here's hoping for an improved LX500 with a newer SoC that comes DV/HDR10+ preloaded and stays as a true universal player.

MechaGodzilla · 01-05-2019, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RalphoR

I just got off the phone with a Magnolia Design Center manager and he told me Pioneer has discontinued the UDP-LX500 player and he can't get any. He believes a new Pioneer/Onkyo player will be revealed at CES. I wonder if Robert could comment on this as he is very connected with Pioneer and can validate if this is true.

Hmm, interesting. I've been eyeing the LX500; now I'm curious to see if there will indeed be a successor announced.

danny24 · 01-05-2019, 02:22 AM

If the UDP-LX500 is already discontinued it must not have sold very well for Pioneer. Panasonic's UB9000 is the same price and the better disc player so can't say that helps Pioneer.

HDTV1080P · 01-05-2019, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by danny24

If the UDP-LX500 is already discontinued it must not have sold very well for Pioneer. Panasonic's UB9000 is the same price and the better disc player so can't say that helps Pioneer.

This player came out a few months ago and Pioneer has no plans on discontinuing it. A Blu-ray player model production cycle is normally 1 year, and sometimes 18 months to 2 years for high-end models. Pioneer is a better 4K Blu-ray player for those that want SACD/DVD-audio playback capability.

Once the HDR10+ firmware update is offered by Pioneer, there is a possibility that the Pioneer might be better then the Panasonic when a head to head professional review occurs. Pioneer might become the new reference player since OPPO is no longer making players.

JohnAV · 01-05-2019, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RalphoR

I just got off the phone with a Magnolia Design Center manager and he told me Pioneer has discontinued the UDP-LX500 player and he can't get any. He believes a new Pioneer/Onkyo player will be revealed at CES. I wonder if Robert could comment on this as he is very connected with Pioneer and can validate if this is true.

I don't see any other discussion against that comment. As HDTV1080P said, why would Pioneer discontinue a new products? Perhaps the Magnolia manger is encountering a Pioneer distribution issue with BB in general?

RalphoR · 01-05-2019, 09:49 PM

I don't know. It would be odd but maybe Pioneer is upgrading some hardware inside and changing the name while at it. I don't know if the manager talked with his Pioneer rep and got the info direct or not.

Jameron4eva · 01-09-2019, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RalphoR

I don't know. It would be odd but maybe Pioneer is upgrading some hardware inside and changing the name while at it. I don't know if the manager talked with his Pioneer rep and got the info direct or not.

Remember the days when Pioneer were a LEADER in Home Tech?

HDTV1080P · 01-09-2019, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jameron4eva

Remember the days when Pioneer were a LEADER in Home Tech?

That was back when Pioneer made their reference plasma screens between 2006 to April 2009 (With the 2008 model being their last plasma). Pioneer also has the best or one of the best A/V receivers. What is happening is the average consumer is looking for the cheapest price instead of the best quality. Pioneer Elite products are for someone that wants the best quality and for those that keep their systems for 10-20+ years because of build quality. The Pioneer Elite 3 year warranty is much better then most other companies that have 90 days or 1 year.

The UDP-LX500 is a leading state of the art product, but it has a niche market because of its price.

King Crimson · 01-09-2019, 06:24 PM

I love pioneer. Will be going with a Pioneer AVR when I have the money set aside for the HT.

RalphoR · 01-09-2019, 08:12 PM

I'd like to hear something from Pioneer at CES.

Robert Zohn · 01-10-2019, 03:37 AM

Here's the official word, the Pioneer Elite BDP-LX500 is very much alive and well.

Same issue exists with this new high-end BD player that we're experiencing with Panasonic's UB820 and UB9000, supply can't catch up with demand. But the LX500 is Pioneer's Elite premium BD player for the USA. Thankfully we just received our third allocation yesterday.

Also as of today, Onkyo has no plans or interest in bring in the LX800 for the USA.

Here's a pic I just took of the LX500 on display Onkyo/Pioneer's CES exhibit.

RalphoR · 01-10-2019, 04:11 AM

Thanks, Robert. So it's identical to it's initial release? I remember you mentioning sometimes a/v companies switch out parts without notification as their products incrementally evolve over time. In this case it's just demand outpacing supply.

Robert Zohn · 01-10-2019, 04:20 AM

Correct, no change in anyway and the BDP-LX500 in in the line-up for 2019 and beyond.

Supply will remain with constrained availability.

Rocketstail · 01-10-2019, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Correct, no change in anyway and the BDP-LX500 in in the line-up for 2019 and beyond.

Supply will remain with constrained availability.

That's right these Pioneer LX500s have been in limited supply since they were released. I bought two getting the first on October 18th and the second one about December 10th.

In reply to sellers not being able to get any in the last three months of last year maybe they were not well connected to get any.

In my opinion some sellers will say or make up stories to inquiries. Case in point I wanted to buy a Cambridge Audio blu-ray player back in September and I knew the going price from a local audio dealer. Thought I would give another a chance from another dealer to see what he would quote. He gave me price at full MSRP which was 50% higher. When I said this price was way high he said it was probably because they were seconds! He will never get any more business from me.

I also know what my Pioneer audio dealer buys these LX500s for and many dealers are trying to sell them for way too much. Audio stores have to make a profit to stay in business but buyers don't like to get taken advantage of.

MonolithicErik · 01-15-2019, 08:12 PM

Installed this player yesterday. Build quality is exactly what you would expect from Pioneer. I haven't had a Pioneer player since my combo LD/DVD DVL-700 and this performs at a very high level. Colors, HDR is excellent. Menu is stripped down, which I like. Remote is backlit but that doesn't matter since I use the Harmony. Its solid, whisper quiet and performs better than any player I have ever owned. Tested with 4K UHD, Blu Ray and even DVD titles. Up-conversion is excellent and I love the display options that show HDR details. Yeah its a grand but...I can't image spending a grand on anything better, especially if you are a film freak like me.

RalphoR · 01-15-2019, 11:38 PM

Nice, quick review. I'm really close to taking the plunge myself.

12-19-2018, 02:25 AM	#321
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	We just want the best remote. ...Made of stainless chrome steel.

12-25-2018, 07:27 PM	#322
JohnAV Blu-ray Knight Member since:Sep 2009 Location:Silicon Valley - where you never run out of toys! 4K collection:322 Blu-ray collection:964 MA collection:80 Digital collection:243 Blu-ray reviews:31 Trading Score:2	REVIEW: PIONEER UDP-LX500 4K UHD BLU-RAY PLAYER - Stereo.net.au

01-04-2019, 10:03 PM	#323
RalphoR Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Oct 2013 Location:The Forbidden Valley of NE Ohio Trading Score:13	I just got off the phone with a Magnolia Design Center manager and he told me Pioneer has discontinued the UDP-LX500 player and he can't get any. He believes a new Pioneer/Onkyo player will be revealed at CES. I wonder if Robert could comment on this as he is very connected with Pioneer and can validate if this is true.

01-04-2019, 11:12 PM	#325
RalphoR Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Oct 2013 Location:The Forbidden Valley of NE Ohio Trading Score:13	I can't imagine a $2k+ player doing well anywhere. Here's hoping for an improved LX500 with a newer SoC that comes DV/HDR10+ preloaded and stays as a true universal player.

01-05-2019, 02:22 AM	#327
danny24 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Feb 2010 4K collection:32 Blu-ray collection:43 Trading Score:58	If the UDP-LX500 is already discontinued it must not have sold very well for Pioneer. Panasonic's UB9000 is the same price and the better disc player so can't say that helps Pioneer.

01-05-2019, 09:49 PM	#330
RalphoR Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Oct 2013 Location:The Forbidden Valley of NE Ohio Trading Score:13	I don't know. It would be odd but maybe Pioneer is upgrading some hardware inside and changing the name while at it. I don't know if the manager talked with his Pioneer rep and got the info direct or not.

01-09-2019, 06:24 PM	#333
King Crimson Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2017 Location:Tokyo 4K collection:379 Blu-ray collection:760 DVD collection:47 Trading Score:32	I love pioneer. Will be going with a Pioneer AVR when I have the money set aside for the HT.

01-09-2019, 08:12 PM	#334
RalphoR Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Oct 2013 Location:The Forbidden Valley of NE Ohio Trading Score:13	I'd like to hear something from Pioneer at CES.

01-10-2019, 03:37 AM	#335
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Here's the official word, the Pioneer Elite BDP-LX500 is very much alive and well. Same issue exists with this new high-end BD player that we're experiencing with Panasonic's UB820 and UB9000, supply can't catch up with demand. But the LX500 is Pioneer's Elite premium BD player for the USA. Thankfully we just received our third allocation yesterday. Also as of today, Onkyo has no plans or interest in bring in the LX800 for the USA. Here's a pic I just took of the LX500 on display Onkyo/Pioneer's CES exhibit.

01-10-2019, 04:11 AM	#336
RalphoR Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Oct 2013 Location:The Forbidden Valley of NE Ohio Trading Score:13	Thanks, Robert. So it's identical to it's initial release? I remember you mentioning sometimes a/v companies switch out parts without notification as their products incrementally evolve over time. In this case it's just demand outpacing supply.

01-10-2019, 04:20 AM	#337
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Correct, no change in anyway and the BDP-LX500 in in the line-up for 2019 and beyond. Supply will remain with constrained availability.

01-15-2019, 08:12 PM	#339
MonolithicErik Member Member since:Mar 2018 Location:Philadelphia, PA	Installed this player yesterday. Build quality is exactly what you would expect from Pioneer. I haven't had a Pioneer player since my combo LD/DVD DVL-700 and this performs at a very high level. Colors, HDR is excellent. Menu is stripped down, which I like. Remote is backlit but that doesn't matter since I use the Harmony. Its solid, whisper quiet and performs better than any player I have ever owned. Tested with 4K UHD, Blu Ray and even DVD titles. Up-conversion is excellent and I love the display options that show HDR details. Yeah its a grand but...I can't image spending a grand on anything better, especially if you are a film freak like me.

01-15-2019, 11:38 PM	#340
RalphoR Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Oct 2013 Location:The Forbidden Valley of NE Ohio Trading Score:13	Nice, quick review. I'm really close to taking the plunge myself.

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