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Old 02-10-2009, 07:08 AM   #1
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I have a plasma as well and played many hours of call of duty on it. I also had IR where the radar is located in the bottom left corner. It stayed for quite a while as i mainly used it for just that video games and then mostly call of duty.
I however would not concern myself alot with IR if you are going to use your plasma for tv, movies, video games.
So I would say that videogames would the the main suspect for IR or burn in. Most of them have a constant image somewhere that never moves. Just watching tv and movies you would probably never have any issues with IR at all.
I guess the main difference is IR will go away after a time. Burn in will not. So yes crt tvs have burn in and plasmas have IR.
I have since moved the plasma upstairs and no longer play videogames on it. The radar IR is no longer present and i have no issues with IR on it at all.
I have A plasma and it is burnt not IR it will not go away all though it is very faint.
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:57 AM   #2
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Try to enjoy your equipment rather than worrying about all the bad things that could happen to it.

If you want your TV to remain in good condition, leave it off - forever.
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Old 02-10-2009, 12:22 PM   #3
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I have had my Panny plasma for 6 YEARS now. I have gamed on it for many many hrs. Never did the 100 hr break in period or nothing. Watch sports center all the time and I have had ZERO problems with this beast.

Its still has a bright beautiful Picture on it.

I think burn in is not an issue like MANY people make it out to be. I think it comes from NON Plasma owners who like to drag plasma's in the mud. Mostly LCD owners IMHO.

Just my 2 cents.
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Old 02-11-2009, 02:59 AM   #4
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I have had my Panny plasma for 6 YEARS now. I have gamed on it for many many hrs. Never did the 100 hr break in period or nothing. Watch sports center all the time and I have had ZERO problems with this beast.

Its still has a bright beautiful Picture on it.

I think burn in is not an issue like MANY people make it out to be. I think it comes from NON Plasma owners who like to drag plasma's in the mud. Mostly LCD owners IMHO.

Just my 2 cents.
Just a question then. Has your plasma had any kind of IR?
I know its each plasma independant as well. I mean 10 people can own the same car and each one will have different problems.
Its all up to what you have good luck with. I replaced the plasma that had IR on it with a DLP and no issues at all.
Lol and my LCD in the bedroom has one pixel that is white always. So nothing is fool proof.
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Old 02-11-2009, 05:00 PM   #5
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Just a question then. Has your plasma had any kind of IR?
I know its each plasma independant as well. I mean 10 people can own the same car and each one will have different problems.
Its all up to what you have good luck with. I replaced the plasma that had IR on it with a DLP and no issues at all.
Lol and my LCD in the bedroom has one pixel that is white always. So nothing is fool proof.
I think a couple times I seen a hint of IR but went right away. Knock on wood this baby has been perfect for me. I laugh at people when they say plasmas do not last that long. Hell I already got my monies worth out of it. If it last another couple years then I will be thrilled.
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Old 02-11-2009, 05:16 PM   #6
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I have had my Panny plasma for 6 YEARS now. I have gamed on it for many many hrs. Never did the 100 hr break in period or nothing. Watch sports center all the time and I have had ZERO problems with this beast.

Its still has a bright beautiful Picture on it.

I think burn in is not an issue like MANY people make it out to be. I think it comes from NON Plasma owners who like to drag plasma's in the mud. Mostly LCD owners IMHO.

Just my 2 cents.
Well said.
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Old 02-11-2009, 05:36 PM   #7
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you should of gotten an LCD, so you wouldnt worry about burn-in and could of been worrying about losing pixels! The way you make your selection is on what can you deal with the most on all TV problems. Every TV set has its problems!
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Old 02-11-2009, 06:02 PM   #8
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you should of gotten an LCD, so you wouldnt worry about burn-in and could of been worrying about losing pixels! The way you make your selection is on what can you deal with the most on all TV problems. Every TV set has its problems!
So true, so true. If you saw my other thread about TVs for around $1000, you would see that I was originally considering a DLP tv.

I went with plasma for the arguably better movie performance and no screen projection geometry issues. I also picked plasma because DLP still has moving parts (color wheel) and a bulb that could burn out and have to be replaced.

I was aware of the IR issues before deciding on plasma but, like with any new toy that any of us purchase, we always want to make sure we baby it for a while and don't do anything to hurt it. With this, the more I read about burn-in and IR, the more scared I got.

I'm pretty sure I'm over the fears but I will still be cautious in the first 100 hours or so.
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Old 02-16-2009, 01:50 PM   #9
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IMAGE RETENTION SUCKS!!!!!!

This TV has a absolutley stunning picture to it but definitely has image retention. I completed about 12 hours of break-in before watching the Daytona 500 yesterday. All my picture settings are set to 50 or below with most of them around 40 or 45. But after only two hours of the actual race, the ticker at the top showing each drivers position was already clearly visible on other screens. That ticker is only present about 50% of the time during that two hour period. The rest is other shots, graphics, or commercials.

I wound up turning the race off and moving the tv back to our bedroom to let it cycle through the break in images again. After an hour an a half of nothing but the break in images, the image retention of the ticker is finally to a point where you can't see it. We watched tv for the rest of the day on our old tv. It looks like poo but at least I don't have to worry about burn-in with it.

Hopefully this IR thing will calm down after a good break in period but I really have to wonder now. If it showed up that quickly with something that wasn't on the screen the whole time, I seriously have to wonder what will happen after a two hour letterbox movie where the bars are present the whole time.

I seriously don't see how some of you people play games for hours on end and say you have zero image retention.

That aside. I never knew a tv could look this good and I don't even have it calibrated yet. There is zero motion blur and the contrast is astounding.
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Old 02-10-2009, 12:51 PM   #10
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Try to enjoy your equipment rather than worrying about all the bad things that could happen to it.

If you want your TV to remain in good condition, leave it off - forever.
Funny you should say that. I was actually thinking something like that yesterday. I was wondering if I should have just purchased an LCD so I could just sit and enjoy it rather than worrying about burning in the letterbox bars on a plasma.

The older I get, the more I find that I enjoy less expensive equipment more since I can sit and just enjoy the music or movie and not be concerned with the inadequacies of each piece of equipment. The more expensive the equipment is, the more I worry about it.

Oh well. Since most people have posted about IR and only one person has mentioned permanent burn-in, I guess there isn't much to worry about. I'll just try to be cautious for the first 100 hours or so but there's no way I can go that whole time before watching movies on it. I'll mix in the break-in images here and there and I even created a "snow" video in Vegas to run once in a while (artificial black and white pixelation like on untuned NTSC channels).

Thanks for the responses.
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:46 AM   #11
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It's all about balance.

I'm bothered as much as everyone else about the risk of burn-in, but I would rather enjoy my TV than pamper it. If I want to watch my material at the proper aspect ratio, I'm going to need black bars/columns... forget stretching and forget gray bars!

I say let it burn.
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I have A plasma and it is burnt not IR it will not go away all though it is very faint.
What brand and how old is the set?
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