Universal's Kornblau wants format war to continue

[richteer]

Originally Posted by The Big Blue

Sorry it was Penton-man. Pg. 93.



Can't figure out the actual words here but it must mean that I'm a moron.

ITYM = I think you mean. Ye olde Usenet ETLA. :-)

[Jeff®]

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[groovyone]

I like "A Lacking Burro"

[phil]

WoW lord of the rings in Blu Ray sounds so good right about now. Your avatar is adding to my desires

[Jeff®]

Originally Posted by phil

WoW lord of the rings in Blu Ray sounds so good right about now. Your avatar is adding to my desires

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by phil

WoW lord of the rings in Blu Ray sounds so good right about now. Your avatar is adding to my desires

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[EricJ]

Originally Posted by 4K display

Hollywood in Hi-Def
Hmm...Didn't I say earlier I was so sick of...
If Kornblau and Graffeo are so infatuated with "consumer friendly" pricing then why haven't they lowered their software prices? Who wrote this "Studio get fat while CE bleed" motto? If Universal had followed the same "consumer friendly" pricing of their hardware partners their titles SRP would be under 20 bucks...

And the one thing nobody's mentioned so far:
Uh, Scott, if he's so self-incriminating a witness for the prosecution...HOW ABOUT SHUTTING UP, PRINTING THE INTERVIEW, AND LETTING HIM SAY IT, FOR A CHANGE???

My Fox-News alarm started going off at about the forth or fifth third-person "Oh, and here's another thing he said to me in an interview" summary--Mostly arising out of my whole frustration with HollywoodinHiDef in general...Scott, you're embarrassing us! >_<
The site only came out because one of the major Home Theater Forums (not sure if it was the HTF, but one of them) was sponsored by the Toshiba HD people, and Scott he thought he had to schoolyard-fight Evangelism with Evangelism--
Despite the fact that most grown-up Blu fans are now trying to shout down the gamer-boyz and start some rational mainstream discussion going about why Blu is winning, and the last thing we need right now is more spin-doctor "Neener-neener, look at all our pie graphs, HD's are poopy-heads! "

(Or maybe I've just been too traumatized by JimHillMedia.com's latest Fox-News crusade against Pixar, I'm in the last possible mood to read "Wishful Thinking" news blogs when I'm looking for real industry information.)

[WriteSimply]

Originally Posted by EricJ

And the one thing nobody's mentioned so far:
Uh, Scott, if he's so self-incriminating a witness for the prosecution...HOW ABOUT SHUTTING UP, PRINTING THE INTERVIEW, AND LETTING HIM SAY IT, FOR A CHANGE???

It really is a blog. The site is not Reuters. Hence, he can write it that way. In fact, I don't think he ever wrote strictly news from the start. Regardless of the rantings you personally did not like, he DID quote Kornblau enough. I don't think I need to hear what he has to say anymore about the matter. GE is going to handle that.


fuad

[JTK]

Originally Posted by EricJ

And the one thing nobody's mentioned so far:
Uh, Scott, if he's so self-incriminating a witness for the prosecution...HOW ABOUT SHUTTING UP, PRINTING THE INTERVIEW, AND LETTING HIM SAY IT, FOR A CHANGE???

Your Ritalin starved rant post notwithstanding, I can swim through it and I agree with this criticism.

This is the largest and most common criticism I've seen of the entire piece:

Instead of a lot of paraphrasing and hearsay, I'd like to see that entire interview posted word for word, with direct quotes always when possible.

That just should be a general rule of thumb.

My Fox-News alarm started going off at about the forth or fifth third-person "Oh, and here's another thing he said to me in an interview" summary--Mostly arising out of my whole frustration with HollywoodinHiDef in general...Scott, you're embarrassing us! >_<
The site only came out because one of the major Home Theater Forums (not sure if it was the HTF, but one of them) was sponsored by the Toshiba HD people, and Scott he thought he had to schoolyard-fight Evangelism with Evangelism--
Despite the fact that most grown-up Blu fans are now trying to shout down the gamer-boyz and start some rational mainstream discussion going about why Blu is winning, and the last thing we need right now is more spin-doctor "Neener-neener, look at all our pie graphs, HD's are poopy-heads! "

(Or maybe I've just been too traumatized by JimHillMedia.com's latest Fox-News crusade against Pixar, I'm in the last possible mood to read "Wishful Thinking" news blogs when I'm looking for real industry information.)

Way too much going on here. Not going to touch it. Go talk to someone or get help or something.

[ussrelativity]

At this point, I've had it with Universal. If they want the format war to continue, fine. All I need is for the Blu-Ray players to drop some more and then they will have a problem touting price as their advantage. By the 4th quarter, Fox should be back and then we will finallly win this thing.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by ussrelativity

At this point, I've had it with Universal. If they want the format war to continue, fine. All I need is for the Blu-Ray players to drop some more and then they will have a problem touting price as their advantage. By the 4th quarter, Fox should be back and then we will finallly win this thing.

Agreed. I also fully agree with your sig as well.

[kjack]

Universal has been really consistent in implying what it would take for them to support Blu-ray -- lower cost players and better interactivity.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by JTK

Your Ritalin starved rant post notwithstanding, I can swim through it and I agree with this criticism.

This is the largest and most common criticism I've seen of the entire piece:

Instead of a lot of paraphrasing and hearsay, I'd like to see that entire interview posted word for word, with direct quotes always when possible.

That just should be a general rule of thumb.

The lack of direct quotes or interview form makes it sound as if he just got passing comments in a phone conversation or quick five-minute grab between EMA or ComicCon sessions--
Which is okay for a sound-bite, if it's identified as a passing comment, but a little disingenuous to pass off as sweeping Pronouncements for the Industry.

(But--now that cooler typing-fingers prevail--can we still get a few shoutouts for Blu-fans who are embarrassed by HiHD's "We can do it too!" attempts to out-Ken Graffeo the HD blogs, or at least have enough spin-skepticism to stop posting everything HiHD says as "Good news for the industry"?
Like I said in the other thread, Blu fans should be taking the high road at this stage, and the site is exactly the kind of low road we should be running away from at top speed.)

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by kjack

Universal has been really consistent in implying what it would take for them to support Blu-ray -- lower cost players and better interactivity.

I noticed that also, wonder what they'll do come March 08 when the BDA companies will be freed from the shackles that is this financial year and BD-Video 1.1 has been put into place.

Interesting times ahead indeed.

[bwillcox]

Originally Posted by phil

I mean that's a pro! Right now I'm paying between 20-25 dollars for my Blu Rays and if there was only Blu Ray I bet it would be way higher like 30-40. I mean DVD's were this high at one point even VHS back in the day.

Not sure where you were buying your DVDs in the beginning, but when I started buying them in '97 I was paying $15 - $20 for most of them. VHS tapes were either real expensive ($80-$100) or cheap ($15-$20) depending on the anticipated popularity of the title and whether the studio thought they could sell alot of them (sell-through market) make sufficient profit with the lower price, or they would be mostly rentals (higher price to maintain profitability).

Originally Posted by phil

Competition is a good thing, it's what makes are marketplace unique right?

I agree that competition is a good thing, but format wars are not just about competition. They also slow adoption rates and can lead to no winner at all. (Look at the competing high-def audio formats, DVD Audio and SACD, both formats lost and are pretty much religated to niche status now.)

If there is no winner, we may be left with only lower quality downloads (wideband bit rates being what they are, 50GB seems like it will be too much for some time to come in most places). Besides, I'm a collector by nature. I like to collect things and have been collecting CDs, SACDs, DVDs, and now BDs for a long time. Downloading movies (or music) to a hard disk that is going to fail (they all do eventually) simply doesn't appeal to me personally.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by kjack

Universal has been really consistent in implying what it would take for them to support Blu-ray -- lower cost players and better interactivity.

Is it a moving target?

The PS/3 was reduced $100. The second gen Sony is $500 less than the first.

Is the real demand that a Blu-ray player be priced like an HD DVD player?

And when profile 1.1 comes out, will he then say he won't do it because less than 100% of players support it?

Gary

[JTK]

Originally Posted by EricJ

The lack of direct quotes or interview form makes it sound as if he just got passing comments in a phone conversation or quick five-minute grab between EMA or ComicCon sessions--
Which is okay for a sound-bite, if it's identified as a passing comment, but a little disingenuous to pass off as sweeping Pronouncements for the Industry.

(But--now that cooler typing-fingers prevail--can we still get a few shoutouts for Blu-fans who are embarrassed by HiHD's "We can do it too!" attempts to out-Ken Graffeo the HD blogs, or at least have enough spin-skepticism to stop posting everything HiHD says as "Good news for the industry"?
Like I said in the other thread, Blu fans should be taking the high road at this stage, and the site is exactly the kind of low road we should be running away from at top speed.)

Here's the real trick to the whole thing: If the interview is a bunch of garbage then we should be seeing or hearing about Kornblau himself going ape@#$% on someone and/or issuing some kind of clarification or statement of some kind.

Obviously I can't imagine someone like him sitting idly by if he felt like he was being misrepresented in some manner.

So that'll be something to watch out for, I guess.

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Is it a moving target?

The PS/3 was reduced $100. The second gen Sony is $500 less than the first.

Is the real demand that a Blu-ray player be priced like an HD DVD player?

And when profile 1.1 comes out, will he then say he won't do it because less than 100% of players support it?

Gary

Feels like a moving target. The movement being: "We really are going to look for every last excuse known to mankind to not support Blu-Ray, even if we have to make up reasons outright."

^^ That's what it looks like, anyways.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by EricJ

The lack of direct quotes or interview form makes it sound as if he just got passing comments in a phone conversation or quick five-minute grab between EMA or ComicCon sessions--
Which is okay for a sound-bite, if it's identified as a passing comment, but a little disingenuous to pass off as sweeping Pronouncements for the Industry.

It's a blog entry. An editorial.

Since when are editorials required to have news story structure and fairness?

Gary

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Originally Posted by kjack

Universal has been really consistent in implying what it would take for them to support Blu-ray -- lower cost players and better interactivity.

You don't think that it has more to do with the total compensation package on the table? Kind of a game of chicken isn't it? What is Universal's neutrality worth to the BDA? If their neutrality effectively ends the format war....that should be a pretty aggressive incentive package.

[monkyman]

Originally Posted by JTK

Sorry, that's just not true. There's no way they're skipping out on this forthcoming, large holiday season. BD+ is finished.

I'm not saying BD+ isn't finished, We have already heard from an insider than Sony will not be useing it this year.

I don't think Fox will be the guinea pig due to the fact that if BD+ is cracked, they will look like fools for waiting. If someone else releases BD+ and it's cracked or not, Fox will look smart for holding out.

Q1 2008, would be the 2nd of the 1-2 punch.