Bedazzled (1967), starring Raquel Welch, Dudley Moore - Feb 19, 2019 - Blu-ray Forum

chas speed · 03-10-2019, 09:10 PM

[QUOTE=WaverBoy;16170266]Those people would be incorrect.[/QUOTE

The DVD looked fine. Maybe you had to be anal-retentive to notice.

WaverBoy · 03-10-2019, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chas speed

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Originally Posted by WaverBoy

Those people would be incorrect.

The DVD looked fine. Maybe you had to be anal-retentive to notice.

No, the DVD is provably vertically stretched, as is the Blu-ray; maybe you had to be blind to not notice.

chas speed · 03-10-2019, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chas speed

No, the DVD is provably vertically stretched, as is the Blu-ray; maybe you had to be blind to not notice.

Are you one of the people with good vision that thought that the Twilight Blu-ray should have been letterboxed at a 2:66.1 aspect ratio like the German Blu-ray. I'm sorry, but I am not that blind.

DMRI2006 · 03-11-2019, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by chas speed

Are you one of the people with good vision that thought that the Twilight Blu-ray should have been letterboxed at a 2:66.1 aspect ratio like the German Blu-ray. I'm sorry, but I am not that blind.

Reading through this thread you seem hellbent on defending the U.S. transfer -- not sure why really, but you're pretty much alone in that corner.

The German Blu-Ray, which I picked up cheap, actually looks accurate, and if nothing else, nobody is stretched out like the Fox DVD transfer. Whether or not it's overmatted and shouldn't be 2.55 I don't know, but it's about 100 times more watchable than the stretch-o-vision U.S. transfers. Nobody looks like a stick figure in it at least!

Anyway you seem to be on an island of your own if you can't even acknowledge the U.S. transfers being vertically stretched -- they are, and they are absolutely "wrong", but you can have at it trying to defend it.

Aclea · 03-11-2019, 05:16 AM

Not having seen the TT disc yet, I'm wondering if part of the problem might not be that Peter Cook and Eleanor Bron were both rather tall and thin at the time and often tended to look like they were shot in Scope but shown without an anamorphic lens even on TV shows in the Sixties (indeed, the contrast in height and shape between Cook and Moore was often a pointed feature of their TV work). I have seen the German disc in that botched or overmatted 2.63:1 ratio (there's no question that the film was shot in the 2.35:1 that was standard for 35mm Panavision at the time), and while Stanley Donen's trademark circle in a square looks appropriately circular in that, it has to be said there are a few shots where Dudley Moore looks a tad wider and more inappropriately circular than he should. It's particularly noticeable in the cuckolded multi-millionaire wish.

Possibly complicating matters further is that the film comes from a period when Stanley Donen was really going wild with the cinematography and while there's nothing as out there as Arabesque (which in one sequence does squeeze the Scope image vertically and horizontally when Gregory Peck is tripping out on the motorway, and on which Bedazzled's cinematographer Austin Dempster worked as a camera operator), there are a lot of photographic flourishes, especially with filters and gauzes or the distorted handheld fly on the wall's POV shots.

chas speed · 03-31-2019, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DMRI2006

Reading through this thread you seem hellbent on defending the U.S. transfer -- not sure why really, but you're pretty much alone in that corner.

The German Blu-Ray, which I picked up cheap, actually looks accurate, and if nothing else, nobody is stretched out like the Fox DVD transfer. Whether or not it's overmatted and shouldn't be 2.55 I don't know, but it's about 100 times more watchable than the stretch-o-vision U.S. transfers. Nobody looks like a stick figure in it at least!

Anyway you seem to be on an island of your own if you can't even acknowledge the U.S. transfers being vertically stretched -- they are, and they are absolutely "wrong", but you can have at it trying to defend it.

You honestly think a few people on this thread represent the entire country? If you are going to debate this you might take 5 seconds to confirm that Bedazzled was filmed in a 2:35.1 ratio, since you admit that you don't even know that. I am not alone in knowing that it wasn't filmed in the 2:55.1 ratio featured in the German Blu-ray. You are wrong and alone in that belief. For what little it is worth, I don't think the Bedazzled Blu-ray is worth 30 bucks. It is a rip off for that price. This is a $14.99 Blu-ray if ever I have seen one.

WaverBoy · 04-26-2019, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chas speed

You honestly think a few people on this thread represent the entire country? If you are going to debate this you might take 5 seconds to confirm that Bedazzled was filmed in a 2:35.1 ratio, since you admit that you don't even know that. I am not alone in knowing that it wasn't filmed in the 2:55.1 ratio featured in the German Blu-ray. You are wrong and alone in that belief. For what little it is worth, I don't think the Bedazzled Blu-ray is worth 30 bucks. It is a rip off for that price. This is a $14.99 Blu-ray if ever I have seen one.

Regardless, the US transfer is vertically stretched. That's a fact. Deal with it.

Geode · 01-30-2021, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WaverBoy

Regardless, the US transfer is vertically stretched. That's a fact. Deal with it.

Is it really "vertically stretched" ...which implies pulling the image vertically, or is it a case that the anamorphic squeeze in the original photography was not unsqueezed properly?

WaverBoy · 03-11-2019, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by chas speed

Are you one of the people with good vision that thought that the Twilight Blu-ray should have been letterboxed at a 2:66.1 aspect ratio like the German Blu-ray. I'm sorry, but I am not that blind.

If you think the old DVD looks fine and isn't vertically stretched, you are indeed that blind.

03-11-2019, 05:16 AM	#5
Aclea Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Blu-ray reviews: 3	Not having seen the TT disc yet, I'm wondering if part of the problem might not be that Peter Cook and Eleanor Bron were both rather tall and thin at the time and often tended to look like they were shot in Scope but shown without an anamorphic lens even on TV shows in the Sixties (indeed, the contrast in height and shape between Cook and Moore was often a pointed feature of their TV work). I have seen the German disc in that botched or overmatted 2.63:1 ratio (there's no question that the film was shot in the 2.35:1 that was standard for 35mm Panavision at the time), and while Stanley Donen's trademark circle in a square looks appropriately circular in that, it has to be said there are a few shots where Dudley Moore looks a tad wider and more inappropriately circular than he should. It's particularly noticeable in the cuckolded multi-millionaire wish. Possibly complicating matters further is that the film comes from a period when Stanley Donen was really going wild with the cinematography and while there's nothing as out there as Arabesque (which in one sequence does squeeze the Scope image vertically and horizontally when Gregory Peck is tripping out on the motorway, and on which Bedazzled's cinematographer Austin Dempster worked as a camera operator), there are a lot of photographic flourishes, especially with filters and gauzes or the distorted handheld fly on the wall's POV shots. Last edited by Aclea; 03-11-2019 at 05:47 PM.

03-10-2019, 09:10 PM	#1
chas speed Power Member Member since:Feb 2016	[QUOTE=WaverBoy;16170266]Those people would be incorrect.[/QUOTE The DVD looked fine. Maybe you had to be anal-retentive to notice.

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