Sony UBP-X700 4K UHD Blu-ray player - Page 69 - Blu-ray Forum

Leonidas King · 03-03-2019, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mysticwaterfall

It's been discussed a lot previously, but the short version is it's going to screw up the brightness and color balance.

Don't know what to tell you but I leave DV on even for non-DV 4K's and the results are excellent

bnelson_16 · 03-04-2019, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonidas_King

Don't know what to tell you but I leave DV on even for non-DV 4K's and the results are excellent

I leave it on for all other movies as well, and I think the picture looks much better.

Matt89 · 03-04-2019, 03:49 PM

I do the same, I always leave DV on with 4K content even if it's in HDR 10. Mainly for the fact that I don't really see any difference because it's HDR anyway and it's also a nuisance to have to constantly turn DV on and off for 4K discs that are HDR 10 only.

For SDR content, however, I always turn off DV otherwise it forces HDR and everything looks off.

~Matt

avs commenter · 03-04-2019, 03:55 PM

I find it funny people who complain about turning on/off DV. If you are choosing to use disc media, you are not choosing convenience. An extra 2 seconds shouldn't be a big deal.

tcripe · 03-04-2019, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avs commenter

I find it funny people who complain about turning on/off DV. If you are choosing to use disc media, you are not choosing convenience. An extra 2 seconds shouldn't be a big deal.

They're complaining because all other DV players in this price range play the HDR source on disk. Not force DV. For example the Phillips BDP-7502 and the LG UBK90

avs commenter · 03-04-2019, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcripe

They're complaining because all other DV players in this price range play the HDR source on disk. Not force DV. For example the Phillips BDP-7502 and the LG UBK90

Yeah but doesn't the LG player have some weird thing about having to change refresh rates for dvds and blurays?

tcripe · 03-04-2019, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avs commenter

Yeah but doesn't the LG player have some weird thing about having to change refresh rates for dvds and blurays?

I have the Phillips player, (which I have zero problems with and would recommend to anyone.) So, not entirely sure on the on issues related to the LG player.

WKoA13 · 03-05-2019, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnelson_16

I leave it on for all other movies as well, and I think the picture looks much better.

Not all the time, but a few times out of laziness, and a few times out of forgetfulness, I've left the DV setting on for standard HDR10 discs. I maybe noticed a slight improvement, but that very well could be my own brain telling me it might look slightly better. If nothing else, I definitely haven't noticed it looking worse because of the setting.

On standard blus, however, definitely pushes darks into lighter territory. With many blacks becoming charcoal greys. Didn't make the picture look awful at all, just wondered why some of the darker scenes/areas looked brighter than they should be until I checked said setting.

Still wouldn't mind an update that lets it auto-detect but...

jblank · 03-11-2019, 01:13 PM

Just bought this player yesterday and I'm not a fan. I heard reviewers saying the PQ was top notch but I'm not seeing it at all. I think the picture is less detailed than my Samsung 8500 and I'm considering taking the X700 back to Walmart. I used the recommended settings from people here and at AVS and the TV settings on my QLED are the same but Blade Runner 2049 seemed less detailed. Anyone else notice any issues with PQ on UHD's?

RJ MacReady · 03-11-2019, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jblank

Just bought this player yesterday and I'm not a fan. I heard reviewers saying the PQ was top notch but I'm not seeing it at all. I think the picture is less detailed than my Samsung 8500 and I'm considering taking the X700 back to Walmart. I used the recommended settings from people here and at AVS and the TV settings on my QLED are the same but Blade Runner 2049 seemed less detailed. Anyone else notice any issues with PQ on UHD's?

I think the picture quality easily bests my 1st gen LG UP970. And it's 1000x quieter. The only thing I noticed is that the streaming quality, on the Vudu app especially, isn't as good as on my Xbox One X or the TV's built-in app (LG 65UH8500). Which is a shame since it's all I've got that will do Dolby Vision and Atmos at the same time with this TV.

Have you tried using the dual HDMI and running a cable for video direct to the TV and another for audio to your receiver?

jblank · 03-11-2019, 01:25 PM

I just saw this on one of the earlier pages:

"Depends on the TV. I usually use the player’s 4:4:4 if I use something like Vizio and older Samsung and older LG. With the new Samsung Q series of this year and LG Tvs with Alpha processor, I use 4:2:2 (4:2:0 if available)!and let the TV do the chroma upsampling."

I have a Q series also, tonight I will change it from 4:4:4 to 4:2:2 and see if it helps.

jblank · 03-11-2019, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ MacReady

I think the picture quality easily bests my 1st gen LG UP970. And it's 1000x quieter. The only thing I noticed is that the streaming quality, on the Vudu app especially, isn't as good as on my Xbox One X or the TV's built-in app (LG 65UH8500). Which is a shame since it's all I've got that will do Dolby Vision and Atmos at the same time with this TV.

Have you tried using the dual HDMI and running a cable for video direct to the TV and another for audio to your receiver?

No, I haven't. I don't stream off the player, I stream using the native apps on the Q. Just curious, why would running audio to my soundbar help PQ?

sapiendut · 03-11-2019, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jblank

Just bought this player yesterday and I'm not a fan. I heard reviewers saying the PQ was top notch but I'm not seeing it at all. I think the picture is less detailed than my Samsung 8500 and I'm considering taking the X700 back to Walmart. I used the recommended settings from people here and at AVS and the TV settings on my QLED are the same but Blade Runner 2049 seemed less detailed. Anyone else notice any issues with PQ on UHD's?

I had both the 800 and 700. The picture quality is okay, nothing to write home though. Upscaling is only meh, not even good.

jblank · 03-11-2019, 01:39 PM

Yeah if I don't see any improvement from the change to 4:2:2 I'm going to return it to Walmart and go back to using my M8500.

RJ MacReady · 03-11-2019, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jblank

No, I haven't. I don't stream off the player, I stream using the native apps on the Q. Just curious, why would running audio to my soundbar help PQ?

It's not so much about the audio, just having a direct connection to the TV for the video. I'm no expert but I swear there's a slight difference in picture quality, at least with my TV/receiver combo.

jblank · 03-11-2019, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ MacReady

It's not so much about the audio, just having a direct connection to the TV for the video. I'm no expert but I swear there's a slight difference in picture quality, at least with my TV/receiver combo.

That's very interesting and I appreciate the input.

sapiendut · 03-11-2019, 01:44 PM

Compared to the 8500 the 700 is an improvement but depends on your TV, you may not be able to see the difference. If you really want to see a clear difference, Panasonic UB820 is the answer. The chroma upsampling and video upscaling from HD are phenomenal. But it is a lot more expensive than the 700 (not much difference in Canada but supposedly it’s even more expensive in the US)

avs commenter · 03-11-2019, 02:01 PM

I like this player overall. But as others have said, the streaming is not good. I use my Apple TV or internal apps to stream.

jblank · 03-11-2019, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sapiendut

Compared to the 8500 the 700 is an improvement but depends on your TV, you may not be able to see the difference. If you really want to see a clear difference, Panasonic UB820 is the answer. The chroma upsampling and video upscaling from HD are phenomenal. But it is a lot more expensive than the 700 (not much difference in Canada but supposedly it’s even more expensive in the US)

I wish I could see the improvement. I have the Samsung Q6F QLED and to my eyes, movie to movie (on Blade Runner 2049), I don't see an improvement, in fact it appears worse, which shocked me.

SunShines · 03-12-2019, 01:22 PM

Pardon my ignorance, but... is the X700 better than the X800?

I would think the model number suggested otherwise, but in side-by-side specs comparisons, I can't see much difference, other than that the X700 supports Dolby Vision, while the X800 doesn't..?

Thanks in advance for clearing this up for me!

03-04-2019, 03:49 PM	#1363
Matt89 Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Toronto 4K collection:350 Blu-ray collection:375 iTunes collection:48 Trading Score:2	I do the same, I always leave DV on with 4K content even if it's in HDR 10. Mainly for the fact that I don't really see any difference because it's HDR anyway and it's also a nuisance to have to constantly turn DV on and off for 4K discs that are HDR 10 only. For SDR content, however, I always turn off DV otherwise it forces HDR and everything looks off. ~Matt

03-04-2019, 03:55 PM	#1364
avs commenter Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2018 Trading Score:8	I find it funny people who complain about turning on/off DV. If you are choosing to use disc media, you are not choosing convenience. An extra 2 seconds shouldn't be a big deal.

03-11-2019, 01:13 PM	#1369
jblank Power Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Bristol, Tennessee 4K collection:283 Blu-ray collection:373 Trading Score:131	Just bought this player yesterday and I'm not a fan. I heard reviewers saying the PQ was top notch but I'm not seeing it at all. I think the picture is less detailed than my Samsung 8500 and I'm considering taking the X700 back to Walmart. I used the recommended settings from people here and at AVS and the TV settings on my QLED are the same but Blade Runner 2049 seemed less detailed. Anyone else notice any issues with PQ on UHD's?

03-11-2019, 01:25 PM	#1371
jblank Power Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Bristol, Tennessee 4K collection:283 Blu-ray collection:373 Trading Score:131	I just saw this on one of the earlier pages: "Depends on the TV. I usually use the player’s 4:4:4 if I use something like Vizio and older Samsung and older LG. With the new Samsung Q series of this year and LG Tvs with Alpha processor, I use 4:2:2 (4:2:0 if available)!and let the TV do the chroma upsampling." I have a Q series also, tonight I will change it from 4:4:4 to 4:2:2 and see if it helps.

03-11-2019, 01:39 PM	#1374
jblank Power Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Bristol, Tennessee 4K collection:283 Blu-ray collection:373 Trading Score:131	Yeah if I don't see any improvement from the change to 4:2:2 I'm going to return it to Walmart and go back to using my M8500.

03-11-2019, 01:44 PM	#1377
sapiendut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:3	Compared to the 8500 the 700 is an improvement but depends on your TV, you may not be able to see the difference. If you really want to see a clear difference, Panasonic UB820 is the answer. The chroma upsampling and video upscaling from HD are phenomenal. But it is a lot more expensive than the 700 (not much difference in Canada but supposedly it’s even more expensive in the US)

03-11-2019, 02:01 PM	#1378
avs commenter Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2018 Trading Score:8	I like this player overall. But as others have said, the streaming is not good. I use my Apple TV or internal apps to stream.

03-12-2019, 01:22 PM	#1380
SunShines Member Member since:Mar 2019	Pardon my ignorance, but... is the X700 better than the X800? I would think the model number suggested otherwise, but in side-by-side specs comparisons, I can't see much difference, other than that the X700 supports Dolby Vision, while the X800 doesn't..? Thanks in advance for clearing this up for me!

Best 4K Blu-ray Deals