Alita: Battle Angel 4K UHD (2019)

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

There is no doubt in my mind that in 30 years Alita will still be talked about as the historic Blade Runners and Matrix movies are today.

Not with its script. There are just too many problems. It's flawed, but not in a good way.

[RodChester]

Originally Posted by gundamcero

I loved the eyes and Alita being all CGI. Made the movie way more special and unique.

All of Alita’s body is CGI.

[gundamcero]

Originally Posted by RodChester

All of Alita’s body is CGI.

That's what I said.

[s_har]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

There is no doubt in my mind that in 30 years Alita will still be talked about as the historic Blade Runners and Matrix movies are today.

This bold and borderline sacrilegious statement of yours has convinced me to turn this into a day one blind buy.

[laserVision]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

There is no doubt in my mind that in 30 years Alita will still be talked about as the historic Blade Runners and Matrix movies are today.

I feel the same way. The art book is telling of how passionate all who worked on this thing are.

[Ant1010]

Take with a grain of salt but June 11th is the day

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_in_home_video

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by Ant1010

Take with a grain of salt but June 11th is the day

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_in_home_video

Well that would be a much needed distraction for me on that date as it will mark exactly 1 year since my Dad passed.

[Mr. Chaverria]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

If they had used Rosa Salazar’s face, as they did for most of the other cyborgs, Alita: Battle Angel would have been a great science fiction movie. I agree it would have made more money. But for me, and a number of passionate Alita fans, the Alita that appeared on screen, made Battle Angel a special and haunting science fiction movie. There is no doubt in my mind that in 30 years Alita will still be talked about as the historic Blade Runners and Matrix movies are today.

I don't know about that. Blade Runner and Matrix changed film. That was an obvious one. Culturally, The Matrix was a much bigger than BR. Just no way it couldn't based on where we were as a society and the internet. BR matters more in the context of history books though.

Alita won't be like those two films from what I saw. It's a film I love a good bit but it's also not doing anything special in the overall w/o the tech. It's just a continuation of what was there before and making that next logical step forward. Salazar's performance won't push Alita to be where BR or The Matrix is or was. Though it's a damn fine performance but it's a twofer. Her performance is there but not cuz of her. It's replicated by artists. It's a a shared symbiotic relationship based on how Rodriguez may have wanted it. Who knows. Saying that, the point of even her face being CGI is that she isn't human. Her body isn't human. So I get why they'd want her all to be CGI. To have that "off" aspect of her to always be there. And it works.

I don't know about haunting either.

Again.. this one of those things where fanaticism starts to go edge disturbing for me.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Ant1010

Take with a grain of salt but June 11th is the day

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_in_home_video

yeah i don't know coming from wiki a website everyone can add stuff on. But i hope its true but if its true shouldn't we hear something soon or already have heard it with only 2 months away.

[Porco Azzurro]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

Well that would be a much needed distraction for me on that date as it will mark exactly 1 year since my Dad passed.

Sorry for your loss. Let’s hope that release date does indeed turn out to be true.

[Porco Azzurro]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

If they had used Rosa Salazar’s face, as they did for most of the other cyborgs, Alita: Battle Angel would have been a great science fiction movie. I agree it would have made more money. But for me, and a number of passionate Alita fans, the Alita that appeared on screen, made Battle Angel a special and haunting science fiction movie. There is no doubt in my mind that in 30 years Alita will still be talked about as the historic Blade Runners and Matrix movies are today.

I think it’s hard to predict exactly what people will make of films in the future, but I haven’t seen dedicated fandom sprout from almost nowhere like it has for Alita for quite a while. I mean I know the manga and anime existed, but the kind of fandom for Alita seems quite similar across those who only saw the film first (or at all) and those who were existing fans of the source material.

I think it’ll age well because underneath the effects and action there is plenty else going on, IMHO. You just have to peel back the orange a little...

[LordoftheRings]

Alita has any chance @ the Oscars 2020?

[pottyaboutpotter1]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Alita has any chance @ the Oscars 2020?

The only category it’d have a chance in would be visual effects, but that category is pretty much locked down for Avengers: Endgame, The Lion King, Star Wars Episode IX and two of the following; Captain Marvel, Detective Pikachu, Aladdin, Spider-Man: Far From Home or Godzilla: King of the Monsters.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Alita has any chance @ the Oscars 2020?

Definitely. There has never been a CGI character looking this real.

[TheSweetieMan]

Originally Posted by mredman

Definitely. There has never been a CGI character looking this real.

I wouldn't count your chickens yet.

The word on 'Gemini Man' from CinemaCon, was that WETA is doing some next level shit with the CG renderings of Will Smith's younger self.

[levcore]

Nevertheless Alita is a spectacular achievement and the most photorealistic CG human so far, and a well realised character to boot.

[laserVision]

Originally Posted by Mr. Chaverria

I don't know about that. Blade Runner and Matrix changed film. That was an obvious one. Culturally, The Matrix was a much bigger than BR. Just no way it couldn't based on where we were as a society and the internet. BR matters more in the context of history books though.

Alita won't be like those two films from what I saw. It's a film I love a good bit but it's also not doing anything special in the overall w/o the tech. It's just a continuation of what was there before and making that next logical step forward. Salazar's performance won't push Alita to be where BR or The Matrix is or was. Though it's a damn fine performance but it's a twofer. Her performance is there but not cuz of her. It's replicated by artists. It's a a shared symbiotic relationship based on how Rodriguez may have wanted it. Who knows. Saying that, the point of even her face being CGI is that she isn't human. Her body isn't human. So I get why they'd want her all to be CGI. To have that "off" aspect of her to always be there. And it works.

I don't know about haunting either.

Again.. this one of those things where fanaticism starts to go edge disturbing for me.

I think what this movie did was something great. We have to remember this is I would say the best attempt at hollywood adapting a Manga/Anime property and embracing its anime/manga roots and aesthetic. While it didn't break the mold in CG, what it do for motion capture is pretty impressive. Lessons learned from this will affect digital film making going fwd. And if 3D makes a resurgence, lessons learned from this are gonna directly translate into Avatar franchise.

People didn't like the eyes but its a strong effort, and can only get more refined. For those who have read the book. Imagine what they could do with the characters arcs Jashugan, or the spectacle of the

[Show spoiler] Barjack battles with Den

, or anything from the sequel books.

A lot of the visual, stylistic and action of the matrix franchise was inspired by anime, so movies like this are a natural progression of pushing the envelope of that corner of cinema.

Ghost in the shell 2017 nailed the Franchise Aesthetic look, sort of, but Alita nailed the spirit of a live action anime, and I think its because movies like this, it makes the Idea of the Taika Waititi Led Akira live action movie, and future anime/manga adaptions something to be potentially excited about. Just like what Marvel and or Og spiderman, and to a lesser extent Blade (for me personally) did for comic book movies.

[Pieter V]

July 31 in France.

[pottyaboutpotter1]

Originally Posted by mredman

Definitely. There has never been a CGI character looking this real.

I dunno. Gollum in Lord of the Rings, Ceaser in Planet of the Apes, Thanos in Avengers and the Na’vi in Avatar felt more real to me. I think there’s more than the technicality to a CGI character to make them feel real. It takes a mixture of visuals, acting, writing and directing to make a CGI character feel like a living and breathing person. Even though it’s ofer 15 years old, Gollum is still a lot more impressive than most other CGI characters to me and that’s because I don’t think of Gollum as a visual effect. Like the others I’ve listed, Gollum is a character first and visual effect second. Alita meanwhile feels like a visual effect first and character second, not that I think the performance and writing were bad, but that I feel the visual effects were more noticeable and accentuated.

The key to a great CGI character is making them feel real. Not just look real.

[levcore]

Just as well Alita was imbued with a fantastic human performance.