Revisionism: the director can alter his work... and I can hate it!

[P@t_Mtl]

I usualy don't mind the re-work director's cut if they added scenes just work well with the originals (like for example Lord Of The Rings) Most of the time I will prefer watching the director's cut over what was offered in the theater.

I was glad however that Lucas did release the original Star Wars in DVD (even if the quality is so so)

[Grubert]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

I usualy don't mind the re-work director's cut if they added scenes just work well with the originals (like for example Lord Of The Rings) Most of the time I will prefer watching the director's cut over what was offered in the theater.

I was glad however that Lucas did release the original Star Wars in DVD (even if the quality is so so)

I drew the line at Apocalypse Now Redux. To this day I refuse to watch the longer cut.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Grubert

I drew the line at Apocalypse Now Redux. To this day I refuse to watch the longer cut.

Never seen the Redux, only saw the original and once only at that, once was enough for me I suppose if the added scenes and the recut just mess up the flow of the movie and the story, there is just no point in doing it. I also have problems when they add scenes that were cut to older movies. Scenes that were not finish at the time, with sometimes sound just a mess. For example The Good The Bad & The Ugly. Nothing added to that movie was worht it, IMO the original cut is the best one.

[Riff Magnum]

Originally Posted by Grubert

I drew the line at Apocalypse Now Redux. To this day I refuse to watch the longer cut.

+1
Redux is simply horrible. No point to all that extra nonsense.

[bferr1]

Originally Posted by Riff Magnum

+1
Redux is simply horrible. No point to all that extra nonsense.

Well, there was a point, actually. There has been a 5-hour workprint of this film available on bootlegged video for years, fueling the notion that there was a lot more to Apocalypse than we were allowed to see-- one of the great "What ifs?" in recent cinema. (It's the same kind of myth surrounding David Lynch's Dune, by the way.) The Redux obviously is a way to quell that demand with an official product rather than a shoddy bootleg, and that's about it.

[uziel5000]

I have to agree that as long as You can have both versions of a film, there should be no problem.

I think sometimes directors forget that the reason they are given the slack to do these "director's cut" "extended editions" is usually because the film was a success. And while that also means more demand to see "more", it also means that many won't like it if you mess with what they liked about it in the first place.

How do you please both camps? Release both! It's not that hard. And actually not that expensive either. Most DVD's and BD's come with two discs anyway.

Of course there is revision and then there is stupid. Greedo shooting first? Stupid! Replacing guns with walkie-talkies? Stupid! But like Ernest points out, you can get both versions if you like. Best of both worlds.

[Riff Magnum]

Originally Posted by bferr1

Well, there was a point, actually. There has been a 5-hour workprint of this film available on bootlegged video for years, fueling the notion that there was a lot more to Apocalypse than we were allowed to see-- one of the great "What ifs?" in recent cinema. (It's the same kind of myth surrounding David Lynch's Dune, by the way.) The Redux obviously is a way to quell that demand with an official product rather than a shoddy bootleg, and that's about it.

I mean that there's no point to the actual extra content featured in the movie. It doesn't add anything to the story, except excess blubber. We get it; vietnam was a messed up place.
I'm sure any talented director that has legions of fanboys will be pressured into releasing extra footage or directors cuts of their favorite films. It doesn't mean they should, simply because they can. So basically, the point of the Redux cut was to appease fanboys and make some extra cash. Brilliant.

[Riff Magnum]

Originally Posted by Riff Magnum View Post
He's referring to E.T. How could Watchmen be revised already? The theatrical cut isn't even out. LOL!!

Because they edited out guns for walkie-talkies in the trailer


So, you're saying that in the original Watchmen trailer some of the characters are holding guns and now they're holding walkie talkies? Are you sure you're not holding something?

[jkwest]

Originally Posted by Riff Magnum

Are you sure you're not holding something?

whoa.....that who has my bong.....

[bferr1]

Originally Posted by Riff Magnum

So basically, the point of the Redux cut was to appease fanboys and make some extra cash. Brilliant.

I think so. Why else would they release a 5-disc Blade Runner set, a 2-disc Dune with that God-awful television version, the Star Wars SEs with the original LD transfers in 4:3? To release official product, thereby undermining bootleggers. Now, when will the Star Wars Holiday Special come out offically?

[Jeff Kleist]

Now, when will the Star Wars Holiday Special come out offically?

Never. In fact Lucas had the National Archives Ark it. If you think that getting even 4:3 of the original cuts out was hard, you ain't seen nothing yet

I did suggest about 5-6 years ago that they hire the MST3K guys to tear it to pieces and give them carte blanche to say whatever they want, but Lucas is quoted as saying if he coudl find every bootleg and finally erase it from the earth, he would