Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Are you saying the Walmart in your area has new displays similar to the picture?

Recently I was in Lowe's looking a various plumbing items, there was no one looking at commodes over a period of about 15 minutes, does that mean folks are taking a dump less?

Yes Walmart had some nice displays, not as elaborate as yours but nice. I was trying to find some information on who pays for those displays, because the Distributors now control inventory. So I would think that floor space and displays would fall into that category too. Other stores are cutting down on Disc displays while Walmart is expanding, so in my estimation if the Distributors pay for it there is no problem. If I was Walmart, I would say Go For It!

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Yes Walmart had some nice displays, not as elaborate as yours but nice. I was trying to find some information on who pays for those displays, because the Distributors now control inventory. So I would thing that floor space and displays would fall into that category too. Other stores are cutting down on Disc displays while Walmart is expanding, so in my estimation if the Distributors pay for it there is no problem. If I was Walmart, I would say Go For It!

If by "distributor", you mean the studios, then no, they do not literally "control" the store's inventory.

Each retailer decides what merchandise, and usually how much of it, they choose to stock. Some promotional displays are sponsored by the manufacturer, but these still require the approval of the retailer. Preferential product placement is something that a manufacturer might pay for as well, but the decision to allow it, or not, is still the retailer's to make.

Special displays may be sponsored; such as those cardboard standee displays filled with the latest Marvel Comics movie near the front checkouts, for example. But not the whole movie department.

The entire movie department at Walmart, encompassing products from many companies, is not leased by any one studio. Walmart allocates the space they deem appropriate for each type of merchandise that they sell. All retailers decide what they sell, where they sell it within the store, the department size, and the quantity of product (except for sponsored displays). Retailers do not over allocate space for any product category, sponsored or not, if doing so would prevent them from stocking merchandise that is in greater demand. Every square foot counts in a retailer's store.

Retailers use something known as a Plan-O-Gram; these evolving plans show where every single piece of merchandise is to be displayed. They change these up regularly depending on the time of year and what they want to promote. Having worked in retail, new Plan-O-Grams caused retailer workers to groan as it often meant rearranging the whole store...again.

https://www.smartdraw.com/planogram/

Some, not all, stores have reduced the size of their movie departments, some have kept them the same, and some have enlarged them. It varies by retailer, by location, and by how well the merchandise sells at that location. In my area, the stores here have kept the movie departments the same size; in your area they appear to have reduced them, in Wendell's area at least one store has expanded them. Stop imposing your "one size fits all" observation on every retailer and on every store location. Retailers adjust their store's inventory to reflect regional demand.

Thankfully, you are not Walmart and I am certain that they are thankful for it, too.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by alchav21

I was trying to find some information on who pays for those displays, because the Distributors now control inventory. So I would think that floor space and displays would fall into that category too.

Vilya pretty much explained that to you. A complete list of studios and distributors here. Some of the big ones are Alliance Entertainment, Super D and Entertainment One.

Other stores are cutting down on Disc displays while Walmart is expanding, so in my estimation if the Distributors pay for it there is no problem. If I was Walmart, I would say Go For It!

As usual, clueless. Vilya covered that as well.

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

The Best Buy near the Asheville Mall, NC has had a change of heart. They have moved the DVD & BD displays back to the front of the store. There were 2 displays 30 ft. in length and 1 display 25 ft. in length with media on both sides of the display. A display 10 ft. in length had only UHD BD titles on it. There were some more PoP display types with new releases on them just as you walked into the store. I made a couple of pictures if anyone is interested.

There is a smaller Best Buy in Arden, NC, will have to see what they have done with packaged media.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Vapers are there because people are trying to quit traditional cigarettes. It’s a false profit because the industry is failing to attract enough younger people. It’s not a growth market anymore imo. Those profits in the U.K. will come crashing down in a few years because only around 0.2% of young people are starting off with e-cigarettes. In my opinion, that is a industry that has been hugely affected by taxes and smoking bans.

I have had family and friends that have passed away due to smoking including my mom to lung cancer when I was 18. IMHO if all smoking (except for meat) were to disappear I would be very happy, that being said I can understand if of individuals complaining they are too expensive and wishing the taxes would go down, but I can't for the life of me understand why someone would want kids to get hooked on it.

Also a I completely disagree with "Vapers are there because people are trying to quit traditional cigarettes.". I know that is how the industry is trying to sell it to idiots, but I don't know of anyone that has moved from cigarettes to vaping and has stopped smoking. On the other hand there are many that assumed vaping was harmless and so it got them hooked on smoking. Plus because of the more lax legislation you can get liquid that has a lot more nicotine (the addictive element of cigarettes) per puff then cigarettes do, making them much more addictive you also have liquids with less nicotine making them less harsh to start off with.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

You need to make your mind up if you think my views are crazy or not? On one hand, you say it’s a mad, paranoid theory, and on the other you are acknowledging it’s a possibility.

why can't it be both. let me put it this way. Is it possible that while I am walking to work tomorrow the winning lottery ticket will get ripped out of someone's hand and get blown into my face, and I will decide to check the numbers and be happy because I will be a multi millionaire? Is it crazy to start spending that money today?

Of course cancer is horrific and of course we should take advice seriously BUT where does the line gets drawn? We have to enjoy life to a certain degree otherwise what’s the point?

If we are talking sugar or alcohol or food or sitting I would agree with you on that, but not when it comes to smoking (e , tobacco or other) and it is not just because of bias. The simple fact is that smoking directly affects the quality of life of everyone around you, it affects property, it affects everything.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Vapers are there because people are trying to quit traditional cigarettes. It’s a false profit because the industry is failing to attract enough younger people. It’s not a growth market anymore imo. Those profits in the U.K. will come crashing down in a few years because only around 0.2% of young people are starting off with e-cigarettes. In my opinion, that is a industry that has been hugely affected by taxes and smoking bans.

Yeah, they are hurting. It must be quite the strain carrying that $888 billion (2018 global income) to the bank.

The tobacco industry is projected to rake in $1.124 TRILLION by 2024. When an industry makes more moolah year after year; it is called G.R.O.W.T.H.

As for the number of people using their products, any decline in your small country of 66 million is more than compensated with the new consumers they are gaining in not so little places like China and other developing nations.

In fact, 80% of the world's 1.1 billion smokers live in low and middle income nations.

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-s...detail/tobacco

As for the taxes, the tobacco companies are not paying them; their customers are. In fact, tobacco companies pay very little in taxes, especially in the U.K.

"The world's four major tobacco companies - two of which have HQs in the UK - are paying minimal UK corporation tax despite enormous reported profits."

"Over the last 7 years during which time Corporation Tax has varied between 20 - 28%, Imperial Tobacco paid, at most, an estimated effective rate of 13% and often much lower and BAT (British American Tobacco) paid 'virtually no' corporation tax, including four consecutive years from 2011-14 where they paid nothing at all."

https://eurekalert.org/pub_releases/...-mtc020519.php

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

No rational person believed the Earth was round until it was proven otherwise.

not sure what you mean by that. For example around 240 BC Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the world to amazing accuracy.

Any rational person can see that the shadow of the earth on the moon gives us a crescent and ergo the earth must be round, any rational person that has looked out at sea (or large field) could see that you can see the tops (like a light house or mast of a sailing ship) but not the bottom which mans that it is not flat but the curvature is hiding the bottom part.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

How do you think these things start? Being told hat to eat, drink and how to spend your free time is a dictatorship and a nanny state at best imo.

lol made me think of

Sheldon Living In A Dictatorship - The Big Bang Theory - YouTube

you sound like a teenager, there is a HUGE difference between some that cares that is looking out for you (even if there is some vested inter3est)

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

lol made me think of
Sheldon Living In A Dictatorship - The Big Bang Theory - YouTube

you sound like a teenager, there is a HUGE difference between some that cares that is looking out for you (even if there is some vested inter3est)

I’m a world weary 44 year old, not a teenager. “Looking out for me?” Are you for real? That is the very definition of a nanny state. That’s agenda if I have ever heard it. When have the U.K. government ever looked out for its people? (poor people anyway) we have working families using food banks for goodness sake. We have old people having to choose between heating or food. You are either naive or willing to accept whatever governments tell you.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

why can't it be both. let me put it this way. Is it possible that while I am walking to work tomorrow the winning lottery ticket will get ripped out of someone's hand and get blown into my face, and I will decide to check the numbers and be happy because I will be a multi millionaire? Is it crazy to start spending that money today?



If we are talking sugar or alcohol or food or sitting I would agree with you on that, but not when it comes to smoking (e , tobacco or other) and it is not just because of bias. The simple fact is that smoking directly affects the quality of life of everyone around you, it affects property, it affects everything.

So does drink.

[CV19]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

When have the U.K. government ever looked out for its people? (poor people anyway)....

I think politicians are the same the world over - they only look after themselves and how far they can line their pockets. The only time they "care" is when they're campaigning for a general election in order to get your vote. Once they're in power, it's business as usual.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by CV19

I think politicians are the same the world over - they only look after themselves and how far they can line their pockets. The only time they "care" is when they're campaigning for a general election in order to get your vote. Once they're in power, it's business as usual.

I agree. As will most people who live in the North and saw our government rip apart our industries. anyway, I’m not saying anything else for now! . Might never stop!

[CV19]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I agree. As will most people who live in the North and saw our government rip apart our industries. anyway, I’m not saying anything else for now! . Might never stop!

That's alright mate, I could spend all night long talking politics, but it's best not to (at least not here).

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

So does drink.

Drink, or dope, might be the only things that could enable your worrisome self to relax.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I agree. As will most people who live in the North and saw our government rip apart our industries. anyway, I’m not saying anything else for now! . Might never stop!

If you ever did stop complaining about, and predicting the worsening of, every. single. aspect. of human existence, that I would see as a sure sign of the apocalypse. Or that you were

[The_Donster]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

In the US the Walmart in Hendersonville, NC (small town) has completely redone their physical movie display. This display is much more prominent and better organized than the old display. This makes the 2nd one of this type of redo in my area that I am aware of. Apparently Walmart thinks there is plenty of life left in physical otherwise they would not spend large sums on new displays.

The Hendersonville, NC Walmart store:

[Show spoiler]

I’m sure you already know this Wendell, but I think those test stores are called Stores of Tomorrow(?) or Future(?) and all of the stores will eventually go to this set up. We’ve got a couple here and I was working for Anderson Merchandising when one of them went through this facelift around Black Friday of all times. Is there a big In Store pick up with minimal check lanes in the front?

[LMFAObros]

I'm conducting research on if Discs are actually dying, or the some people have been spouting that digital will dominate everything. I've made this quick 14 question survey and I hope that some of you can help me out with it and voice your thoughts on collecting and consuming content through Discs, rather than watching content over the net. I hope you all continue to enjoy watching films in whichever format you choose.

https://forms.office.com/Pages/Respo...9LQ1lXVU0xMC4u

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by LMFAObros

I'm conducting research on if Discs are actually dying, or the some people have been spouting that digital will dominate everything. I've made this quick 14 question survey and I hope that some of you can help me out with it and voice your thoughts on collecting and consuming content through Discs, rather than watching content over the net. I hope you all continue to enjoy watching films in whichever format you choose.

https://forms.office.com/Pages/Respo...9LQ1lXVU0xMC4u

While entertaining, online surveys like the one you are offering are unscientific. Depending on where the survey link is posted, who sees it and chooses to respond, and even the wording of the questions themselves, could easily skew the results. Without a significant number of diverse respondents across all demographics, the results won't tell us much. It will only show the opinion of those who chose to take the survey and we will not have any information about the respondents themselves. Where are they from, urban or rural, what is their age, gender, race, economic status, nationality, do they buy discs, do they buy digital copies, do they stream, do they do some of each, etc. ?

Completing a survey should also provide a chance to win a nice prize.

[LMFAObros]

Originally Posted by Vilya

While entertaining, online surveys like the one you are offering are unscientific. Depending on where the survey link is posted, who sees it and chooses to respond, and even the wording of the questions themselves, could easily skew the results.

Completing a survey should also provide a chance to win a nice prize.

I get what you mean. I just want to get some opinions from fellow collectors about why they refuse to bow down to our streaming overlords hehe.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by LMFAObros

I get what you mean. I just want to get some opinions from fellow collectors about why they refuse to bow down to our streaming overlords hehe.

Conducting an informal survey for your own bemusement is certainly fine, but the underlined portion of your post more than reveals the survey author's bias.