HDR Discussion Thread

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by gkolb

The in-depth information here about HDR & HFR can help most make informed decisions about equipment purchases and content choices.

And to HFR, I’ve been touting higher and higher frame rates, at least for sports, since back in 2013 – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...er#post7221029

and with regards to movies exhibited in 3D, earlier than that. It’s good to see the UHD Forum giving some attention to the next frontier (HFR) in Chapter 13 of their Feb. 2019 guidelines.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

To me Penton the value is in the learning process and the good humor mix life related.
Brief the overall High Caliber Participation and Contribution from Insiders (HCPCI)....

thank you

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

interested in attending thee upcoming Cine Gear Expo at Paramount Studios.

meanwhile, registration for Cine Gear 2019 is now open – http://www.cinegearexpo.com/la-expo-...eid=9d9eb6fc84
from a distance I think I spotted Stacey there one year

[AdubW1982]

So are TCL TV's worth a buy? I have a 2015 Samsung 4k tv and am looking to upgrade.

[LexInHD]

Originally Posted by AdubW1982

So are TCL TV's worth a buy? I have a 2015 Samsung 4k tv and am looking to upgrade.

Yes and no. You play the panel lottery with TCL and they do cut some corners, as all Chinese manufacturers do, but they can produce good products. I'd just wait for the next generation, as we're going to be seeing mLED TVs from them and others very soon.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

What I like the most is your positive attitude in inviting everyone to participate in all their own lifestyle.

I need ray0414 - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...4#post16355336
to teach me how to properly work my brachioradialis.

[Penton-Man]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post16336691

^ -> Well we closed strong over the past 6 days. Final viewership tally for this thread for the month of April clocks in at 92,178 views (as of 10 P.M. Pacific time).

as an aside, that's far more comfortable than pulling 9.2 G’s - https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw4Iq_uFEcY/
<- that flight was not affiliated with Top Gun: Maverick, nevertheless, point is I think it’s been good to have the cast of TG: M learn a little about G’s

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

last night’s broadcast episode begged for an HDR grade and optimized during the session with a sufficiently sized client TV adjacent to the reference monitor - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post16305557

darkness is one thing, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS94Mapj_14#t=1m30s
for which scenes from other dramatic content can still look clean, e.g., scroll down to fire in forest scene – https://ascmag.com/articles/roma-memories-of-mexico

but personally, I felt the creative choice for episode 3 of GoT went too far with the fog….for that intentional ‘fog of war’ effect, compounded by the fact that the delivery method to the vast majority of uncalibrated TV consumers will forever to have been by streaming it, rather than ultimately purchasing a later Season 8 Ultra HD Blu-ray disc in HDR for superior picture quality, which most consumers still don’t own players, or worse, are totally unfamiliar with the format

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

episode 3 of GoT

b.t.w., did any locals see it at the theater here? - https://twitter.com/ChineseTheatres/...98331002146816

[Penton-Man]

good hire - https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/tech/...138854.article

[BrownianMotion]

Originally Posted by avs commenter

So TCL, who sells some of the cheapest TV's available and I assume has a pretty small market share, is one of the only brands with universal HDR?

TCL has to do things like this to appeal to the more casual consumers because they can't simply rely on the quality of their sets, given that the quality of their sets is very low.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

....tickets for Apocalypse Now: Final Cut - https://meyersound.com/video/apocalypse-now-final-cut/

are still available for tomorrow’s screening – https://www.tribecafilm.com/filmguid...lypse-now-2019

for those of us who couldn’t attend -

Francis Ford Coppola talk on Apocalypse Now 40 years restoration at Tribeca Film Festival 2019 - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

darkness is one thing, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS94Mapj_14#t=1m30s
for which scenes from other dramatic content can still look clean, e.g., scroll down to fire in forest scene – https://ascmag.com/articles/roma-memories-of-mexico

but personally, I felt the creative choice for episode 3 of GoT went too far with the fog….for that intentional ‘fog of war’ effect, compounded by the fact that the delivery method....

^
reminded me of a modern day “stressing the system” - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post10112228 , but in the case of Episode 3, for streaming and broadcast of an episodic show, rather than StEM material produced to evaluate compression/bitrate/codec for theatrical presentation back in the day

one productive thing that may come out of the whole situation is that GoT fans who are also videophiles might be further encouraged to purchase this - https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Game-.../240117/#Forum

[Penton-Man]

Clearly, the individual home user experience for episode 3 of Season 8 GoT was dependent upon what particular display device was used, e.g. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...o#post16366694 , the ambient lighting , as well as, significantly, the deliverable, e.g. vis-à-vis DirecTV, cable, HBO Go, etc.

The respective post house and colorist are well experienced….https://www.siminternational.com/ and I would have expected them to have anticipated the issues many home users experienced with the various distribution channels in handling the challenging content of epi 3. I choose not to fault Joe, the colorist who graded the episode, as colorists can only advise.

b.t.w., I’ve since been informed that apparently the JPEG 2000 delivery presentation at the special screening at the TCL Chinese Theatre in Hollywood looked fine, but I’m waiting on a 2nd opinion for verification.

[DanBa]

VORKE GT-King Amlogic S922X TV Box Sells for $114
https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/05...-s922x-tv-box/





Like the Amlogic S905X3 SoC,
https://twitter.com/DanielBa78/statu...31447639601152
the Amlogic S922X SoC is compatible with all HDR formats, i.e. Dolby Vision, HDR10, HDR10+, HLG and Prime HDR / Technicolor HDR.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Waboman

Gotta be frosty for GoT tonight. Winter is here, you know.

Epilogue:
episode 3 broke tweeter records….https://www.foxbusiness.com/technolo...erfell-episode

and viewing records….https://www.thewrap.com/game-of-thro...of-winterfell/
as well as creating intense picture quality debates among hobbyists and ‘professionals’ on forums and message boards all over the internet

P.S.
Where’s LordoftheRings?, Bob, you’re supposed to be supplementing this information with a pertinent YouTube clip like so –

Disturbed - The Sound Of Silence [Official Music Video] - YouTube

[LordoftheRings]

I like his voice ^ powerful and well tuned.

[gkolb]

Originally Posted by DanBa

VORKE GT-King Amlogic S922X TV Box Sells for $114
https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/05...-s922x-tv-box/





Like the Amlogic S905X3 SoC,
https://twitter.com/DanielBa78/statu...31447639601152
the Amlogic S922X SoC is compatible with all HDR formats, i.e. Dolby Vision, HDR10, HDR10+, HLG and Prime HDR / Technicolor HDR.

Hi Dan,

I can’t believe all the tech in that box for ~$114! Plus two memory chips. IMHO this price point puts all the tv manufacturers to shame.

Just curious is that a full fat 2019 HDMI 2.1 chip, or some hybrid upgraded 2.0?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Penton, it's just amazing everything we can read on the Internet nowadays.
Just look @ Instagram

lol, you’re telling me, like for instance –



wrong, Tina, the pic ^ was not shot in New York, think about 2,800 miles west of N.Y. here – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post16344466

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Epilogue:
episode 3 broke tweeter records….https://www.foxbusiness.com/technolo...erfell-episode

and viewing records….https://www.thewrap.com/game-of-thro...of-winterfell/
as well as creating intense picture quality debates among hobbyists and ‘professionals’ on forums and message boards all over the internet

for example -
Blocks, banding, faces blurred out, fires bleeding in the whites and so on. What happened?
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/time-...%B6rn-isakson/