Black Hawk Down 4K UHD (2001) - Page 46 - Blu-ray Forum

LordoftheRings · 05-09-2019, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TJtennispro

Who cares about the blu Ray? They never advertised a remastered blu Ray. They put their time and effort into the current format. Uhd blu ray. If you want a remastered copy they gave us one. It’s not Sony’s fault if people are too cheap to get current gear.

Plus with a quality 4K BR player, from Panasonic and Pioneer for example, he can watch the 4K BR disc ... HDR > SDR (with a beautiful 1080p picture without HDR).

* I would rather that they don't include the old Blu in the 4K package and discount the total price by $5-10 instead. That way everybody's happy.

If they want to include the standard Blu or/and the 3D Blu, they can remaster them as well for improved picture and sound (Atmos). Then they can keep charging us $25-30 if it turns their mojo on.

Alien 4K was/is priced to sell.
Black Hawk Down 4K is priced to sell.

LegacyCosts · 05-09-2019, 11:54 PM

Never seen this but this thread convinced me, plus ridley scott is king. Asked the wife to pick it up for my b-day.

Batman90 · 05-10-2019, 12:34 AM

Has anyone bring these issues to the studio so they can fix them. Would love to buy this but with all the issues people seem to be having I see no point in buying it. You think since it’s 2019 there wouldn’t be these kind of issues anymore.

gates70 · 05-10-2019, 12:42 AM

Watched the extended. Wow, fantastic PQ and AQ! Got a couple quick audio dropouts at 16:38 and 33:12. Anybody else get these?

Old Bones · 05-10-2019, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJtennispro

Who cares about the blu Ray? They never advertised a remastered blu Ray. They put their time and effort into the current format. Uhd blu ray. If you want a remastered copy they gave us one. It’s not Sony’s fault if people are too cheap to get current gear.

I don't give a flaming rats ass about the blu-ray Disk
You buy a 4K disc FOR THE 4k disk.
I always give the BD away to friends that don't have 4K

Bn43 · 05-10-2019, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Bones

I don't give a flaming rats ass about the blu-ray Disk
You buy a 4K disc FOR THE 4k disk.
I always give the BD away to friends that don't have 4K

I only keep the Blu-ray in case I ever feel like comparing them. I'll never actually sit through them.

McHugh · 05-10-2019, 01:46 AM

I picked up the 4K version on Tuesday, viewed it last night and in my opinion the picture is reference quality. Now I can play Planet Earth 2 as the documentary reference disc and Black Hawk Down as the movie disc.

sleeman · 05-10-2019, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by gates70

Watched the extended. Wow, fantastic PQ and AQ! Got a couple quick audio dropouts at 16:38 and 33:12. Anybody else get these?

Watching it right now. Had the audio dropouts as well. Also had a bit of audio sync issue, stopping and restarting corrected it. Bought from Amazon.ca.
But what an amazing disc. One of the best from Sony!

Locutus494 · 05-10-2019, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by slimdude

A second is hardly noticeable, if at all, especially if it's not all through the movie. Black Hawk Down is a highly octane action flick, and the majority of the time because of all the action scenes, that you barely notice any minimum sync delay.

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Originally Posted by slimdude

It's like a blink of an eye! If you're not looking directly at the actor's mouths, as if you're reading their lips, it's not that long.

LOL, what?!! A second delay in the audio is unwatchable! If you can watch a movie like that, why are you even bothering with high quality 4K video and audio?! You may as well just watch it on VHS then.

Mobe1969 · 05-10-2019, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Bones

I don't give a flaming rats ass about the blu-ray Disk
You buy a 4K disc FOR THE 4k disk.
I always give the BD away to friends that don't have 4K

Or they'd like to have a 4k remastered blu they will never watch so can sell it I guess.

In Australia they often aren't even shipping the blu with the back catalog releases like Alien and BHD. I've already got the blu rays though so not that worried.

MarioG280 · 05-10-2019, 02:57 AM

Head scratcher to me that people are reporting sync issues and declaring this the greatest release in the same post. Sync issues are the worst.

HD Goofnut · 05-10-2019, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Bones

I don't give a flaming rats ass about the blu-ray Disk
You buy a 4K disc FOR THE 4k disk.
I always give the BD away to friends that don't have 4K

Not necessarily. There have been a few UHD releases where the included BD is the only way to get the new master on BD.

LegacyCosts · 05-10-2019, 03:47 AM

How long into the format's life do you think we'll still see complaints about the standard blu rays not being updated?

jamesdevil · 05-10-2019, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LegacyCosts

How long into the format's life do you think we'll still see complaints about the standard blu rays not being updated?

Forever

Rick Grimes · 05-10-2019, 04:50 AM

Will probably pick this up, as I have never owned a copy on BD.

I have an issue with the way the end of the Battle of Mogadishu is portrayed, with the kids running alongside the military vehicles, when in reality, the marines were having to blast the hell out of these 12-14 year olds.
The way one soldier put it "You could see when you took aim that these kids could barely hold their guns, yet alone aim them. But we still had to shoot to kill anyway, 'cos some of these kids could get off a lucky shot and kill one of my fellow marines".

What is that shite at the end... An artistic statement or an attempt to censor the real tragedy of warfare. The loss of innocence. Either way, while I love Ridley Scott's films, there is something about those final scenes (as they make their way through the streets to the rendezvous point), that just doesn't ring true. And for me, it has always tainted the rest of the film.

Perhaps with age comes temperance and I won't find it so astonishing that the truth appeared to be censored (to a degree), in those final scenes, and enjoy the rest of the film it's gritty portrayal. If sequences were bad apples, I shouldn't let that one scene/sequence ruin the whole damn bunch. I chose to use the apple metaphor approach to Star Wars: Episode 8 (the Casino planet was ridiculous), so I can take my new found virtue into watching Black Hawk Down. Thus, I can accept that the film ends the way it does, for whatever reason, and the truth is simply way darker than what was portrayed.

KcMsterpce · 05-10-2019, 04:55 AM

No slipcase? I'm returning it!
No Atmos? No buy!
Ugly cover art? No buy!
No 13.4.27 audio mix to match my own personal audio system? No buy!
Not remastered blu-ray... inside the 4k UHD box? No buy!

Ooh. It has a slipcase, great cover art, but no disc inside... I'm keeping it!

Mobe1969 · 05-10-2019, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMsterpce

No slipcase? I'm returning it!
No Atmos? No buy!
Ugly cover art? No buy!
No 13.4.27 audio mix to match my own personal audio system? No buy!
Not remastered blu-ray... inside the 4k UHD box? No buy!

Ooh. It has a slipcase, great cover art, but no disc inside... I'm keeping it!

"And I'll by a second copy for a steelbook"

formula_nebula · 05-10-2019, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LegacyCosts

Never seen this but this thread convinced me, plus ridley scott is king. Asked the wife to pick it up for my b-day.

You're in for a treat.

Like you said, Ridley Scott. One of his better movies, and a great war drama. Lots of action, and war violence. Great cast too. Be on the look out for Legolas, Mad Max, and Jaime Lanister.

Plus a few more you might catch. This has always been a favorite of mine. The 4k disc is superb. A huge leap over the BD. Highest recommendation.

cooney · 05-10-2019, 05:20 AM

Add me to the list of people impressed by this one. Once I got a little bit in, I stuck the Blu-ray in another player to toggle back and forth to compare. This UHD is such a major improvement. Even though I don't watch BDs of movies I own on UHD, I was a little bummed the BD wasn't remastered. It felt like such an unfair comparison when the BD is in such rough shape. It practically looked like a DVD to me and the format can obviously offer so much better. Beads of sweat (which is basically covering everyone in this movie) and fabric textures were so detailed and natural looking. And the HDR seemed to make every firey blast and spark just pop.

And yeah - I hadn't seen this since the mid-2000s and was surprised to see Jaime Lanister and a Tom Hardy that looked to be a third the size of Bane in this.

hatchet man · 05-10-2019, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mobe1969

"And I'll by a second copy for a steelbook"

absolutely

05-09-2019, 11:54 PM	#902
LegacyCosts Blu-ray Knight Member since:Oct 2013 Location:Chicago 4K collection:177 Blu-ray collection:455 Trading Score:20	Never seen this but this thread convinced me, plus ridley scott is king. Asked the wife to pick it up for my b-day.

05-10-2019, 12:34 AM	#903
Batman90 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2017 Location:Gotham City 4K collection:867 Blu-ray collection:1644 DVD collection:13 iTunes collection:20 Trading Score:1	Has anyone bring these issues to the studio so they can fix them. Would love to buy this but with all the issues people seem to be having I see no point in buying it. You think since it’s 2019 there wouldn’t be these kind of issues anymore.

05-10-2019, 12:42 AM	#904
gates70 Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada Home Theater Gallery:289 4K collection:1538 Blu-ray collection:5377 Blu-ray reviews:1	Watched the extended. Wow, fantastic PQ and AQ! Got a couple quick audio dropouts at 16:38 and 33:12. Anybody else get these?

05-10-2019, 01:46 AM	#907
McHugh Active Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Calgary, Alberta, Canada 4K collection:35 Blu-ray collection:125	I picked up the 4K version on Tuesday, viewed it last night and in my opinion the picture is reference quality. Now I can play Planet Earth 2 as the documentary reference disc and Black Hawk Down as the movie disc.

05-10-2019, 02:57 AM	#911
MarioG280 Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2016 4K collection:199 Blu-ray collection:1755 Trading Score:49	Head scratcher to me that people are reporting sync issues and declaring this the greatest release in the same post. Sync issues are the worst.

05-10-2019, 03:47 AM	#913
LegacyCosts Blu-ray Knight Member since:Oct 2013 Location:Chicago 4K collection:177 Blu-ray collection:455 Trading Score:20	How long into the format's life do you think we'll still see complaints about the standard blu rays not being updated?

05-10-2019, 04:50 AM	#915
Rick Grimes Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2012 4K collection:284 Blu-ray collection:1528 Blu-ray reviews: 18	Will probably pick this up, as I have never owned a copy on BD. I have an issue with the way the end of the Battle of Mogadishu is portrayed, with the kids running alongside the military vehicles, when in reality, the marines were having to blast the hell out of these 12-14 year olds. The way one soldier put it "You could see when you took aim that these kids could barely hold their guns, yet alone aim them. But we still had to shoot to kill anyway, 'cos some of these kids could get off a lucky shot and kill one of my fellow marines". What is that shite at the end... An artistic statement or an attempt to censor the real tragedy of warfare. The loss of innocence. Either way, while I love Ridley Scott's films, there is something about those final scenes (as they make their way through the streets to the rendezvous point), that just doesn't ring true. And for me, it has always tainted the rest of the film. Perhaps with age comes temperance and I won't find it so astonishing that the truth appeared to be censored (to a degree), in those final scenes, and enjoy the rest of the film it's gritty portrayal. If sequences were bad apples, I shouldn't let that one scene/sequence ruin the whole damn bunch. I chose to use the apple metaphor approach to Star Wars: Episode 8 (the Casino planet was ridiculous), so I can take my new found virtue into watching Black Hawk Down. Thus, I can accept that the film ends the way it does, for whatever reason, and the truth is simply way darker than what was portrayed.

05-10-2019, 04:55 AM	#916
KcMsterpce Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2011 Location:Germany 4K collection:169 Blu-ray collection:701	No slipcase? I'm returning it! No Atmos? No buy! Ugly cover art? No buy! No 13.4.27 audio mix to match my own personal audio system? No buy! Not remastered blu-ray... inside the 4k UHD box? No buy! Ooh. It has a slipcase, great cover art, but no disc inside... I'm keeping it!

05-10-2019, 05:20 AM	#919
cooney Active Member Member since:Jun 2012 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	Add me to the list of people impressed by this one. Once I got a little bit in, I stuck the Blu-ray in another player to toggle back and forth to compare. This UHD is such a major improvement. Even though I don't watch BDs of movies I own on UHD, I was a little bummed the BD wasn't remastered. It felt like such an unfair comparison when the BD is in such rough shape. It practically looked like a DVD to me and the format can obviously offer so much better. Beads of sweat (which is basically covering everyone in this movie) and fabric textures were so detailed and natural looking. And the HDR seemed to make every firey blast and spark just pop. And yeah - I hadn't seen this since the mid-2000s and was surprised to see Jaime Lanister and a Tom Hardy that looked to be a third the size of Bane in this.

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