Panasonic UB9000 thread - no price talk please - Page 24 - Blu-ray Forum

sapiendut · 06-07-2019, 10:23 PM

The lip sync problem occurs in some UB9000. PM me your serial number. Two of my clients have the same problem, I’m going to submit the serial numbers to Panasonic Canada soon.

Robert Zohn · 06-07-2019, 11:30 PM

Very interesting writeup by Kris Deering in Sound and Vision on the UB9000 paired with JVC's projector and how the 350 nit and 500 nit HDR Optimizer modes are best used.

Very good read, here's the link.

RogerMathus · 06-07-2019, 11:47 PM

Both the UB9000 and Roku in same location and connected wireless with speed of 50 measured at location.

alchav21 · 06-08-2019, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerMathus

Both the UB9000 and Roku in same location and connected wireless with speed of 50 measured at location.

That's too bad I'm a Wired guy and think that Streaming should be Wired to work best. So now I'll ask you to connect Wired, and see how that works.

sapiendut · 06-08-2019, 10:32 AM

His problem is not because of the wireless connection. All my clients’ player with audio sync problem on the 9000 are using wired connection.

RogerMathus · 06-08-2019, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sapiendut

His problem is not because of the wireless connection. All my clients’ player with audio sync problem on the 9000 are using wired connection.

I also have a UB820 and with the same movie and connection the sync problem does not occur.

sapiendut · 06-08-2019, 04:53 PM

The 820 does not have this problem

Clark Burk · 06-09-2019, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sapiendut

The 820 does not have this problem

Can we isolate this supposed problem a bit further? 4k UHD playback? Netflix? Amazon? Really, if you’re going to report a issue please be a bit more specific. If all the above great just say so. A little bit of help with your system you are playing the 9000 through would really help to. Thanks!

sapiendut · 06-09-2019, 02:01 AM

Didn’t you read what I wrote? It’s only on Netflix app and it’s only in certain UB9000. Never seen this happen on the 820 and most UB9000 don’t have this problem. I already reported mune and several others (my clients) directly to Panasonic Canada.

Robert Zohn · 06-19-2019, 10:07 PM

Originally I established the UB9000 price at $999, but to maintain the normal m/u it should have been higher. I'm glad we created and was able to cap the retail price at under one thousand.

I just received a letter from Panasonic USA's senior executive warning the few select direct dealers of a possible increase as early as July 1st if the proposed new round of tariffs on goods imported from China are imposed. This new round of tariffs would trigger an immediate and significant price increase on the UB9000 as well as many other CE products. The UB9000 would be most effected as I kept the margin low so none of the increase can be adsorbed.

Just wanted to pass along the best heads-up notice as just moments ago this was told to me. Supply is very constrained, most retailers are sold out and the temporary IR promotion ends this Sunday.

rech750452 · 06-19-2019, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Originally I established the UB9000 price at $999, but to maintain the normal m/u it should have been higher. I'm glad we created and was able to cap the retail price at under one thousand.

I just received a letter from Panasonic USA's senior executive warning the few select direct dealers of a possible increase as early as July 1st if the proposed new round of tariffs on goods imported from China are imposed. This new round of tariffs would trigger an immediate and significant price increase on the UB9000 as well as many other CE products. The UB9000 would be most effected as I kept the margin low so none of the increase can be adsorbed.

Just wanted to pass along the best heads-up notice as just moments ago this was told to me. Supply is very constrained, most retailers are sold out and the temporary IR promotion ends this Sunday.

Would this affect the UB820 as well?

danny24 · 06-19-2019, 11:06 PM

Best Buy now says sold out for the UB9000 that might have something to do with what Robert mentioned. It was available for sale just a few days ago and now strangely sold out.

Value Electronics still has stock and you can save 5% for a short while.

Glad I already have one bought from VE with the coming price increase it's nice to have it cheaper.

Robert Zohn · 06-19-2019, 11:50 PM

Yes, the pending tariffs will effect the UB820 price.

HDTV1080P · 06-20-2019, 08:36 PM

So in July we might see a new higher list price for Panasonic Blu-ray players. I wish Panasonic would issue a firmware update to offer SACD and DVD-AUDIO support. Years ago Panasonic supported DVD-Audio on some Blu-ray players, with Sony and Pioneer supporting SACD and DVD-Audio, Panasonic should consider offering that feature that requires licensing. If the list price is going to be raised then its the perfect opportunity to issue a licensed SACD/DVD-Audio support.

Pioneer offers nice tone mapping also but the Pioneer is only 2.0 analog audio output. The Panasonic with 7.1 analog audio output would be almost perfect Blu-ray player if that SACD and DVD-Audio feature was offered. The main reason people buy Pioneer and Sony Blu-ray players is because of the SACD/DVD-Audio disc support.

Some OPPO owners would purchase Panasonic if the SACD/DVD Audio feature was offered.

Waboman · 06-20-2019, 09:25 PM

According to my BBY app, they still have the 9000 in stock. Although, I bought mine thru Robert and wholeheartedly recommend him, it's good to have options.

sapiendut · 06-20-2019, 09:28 PM

According to Panasonic, there is not enough space for the DVD-A and SACD functionality on the firmware chip.

JohnAV · 06-20-2019, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sapiendut

According to Panasonic, there is not enough space for the DVD-A and SACD functionality on the firmware chip.

Integrated multimedia system-on-chip are designed from the start to support various video/audio codecs via hardware decoding. This was a design decision which Panasonic made to not support this.

It's also something that you can't add after the fact via FW. Have to wait for a new SoC.

sapiendut · 06-20-2019, 09:54 PM

Yes, they don’t want universal and never plan to do so

No they don’t use off the shelf SoC, they create their own

Therefore, even if they want to, they can’t add it because they no longer have space to add those functionalities on their their SoC. It’s not about flicking a switch to activate the functionalities, there is no functionalities for those on the chip itself, hence they can’t just add (read: activate) it via firmware update sincere there is nothing in there to begin with.

Do I wish to have those functionalities? Of course! Am I willing to pay for it even for $100 more? Heck no.

HDTV1080P · 06-21-2019, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sapiendut

According to Panasonic, there is not enough space for the DVD-A and SACD functionality on the firmware chip.

I was not aware that the existing chip used does not have enough room to program the function in exiting Panasonic Blu-ray players. Hopefully in 2020 or 2021 Panasonic well offer SACD/DVD-Audio support on a future 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player.

sapiendut · 06-21-2019, 05:53 PM

I’m hoping for the same too. Even I can have a universal player, why not.

06-20-2019, 09:54 PM	#478
sapiendut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:3	Yes, they don’t want universal and never plan to do so No they don’t use off the shelf SoC, they create their own Therefore, even if they want to, they can’t add it because they no longer have space to add those functionalities on their their SoC. It’s not about flicking a switch to activate the functionalities, there is no functionalities for those on the chip itself, hence they can’t just add (read: activate) it via firmware update sincere there is nothing in there to begin with. Do I wish to have those functionalities? Of course! Am I willing to pay for it even for $100 more? Heck no. Last edited by sapiendut; 06-20-2019 at 10:02 PM.

06-07-2019, 10:23 PM	#461
sapiendut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:3	The lip sync problem occurs in some UB9000. PM me your serial number. Two of my clients have the same problem, I’m going to submit the serial numbers to Panasonic Canada soon.

06-07-2019, 11:30 PM	#462
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Very interesting writeup by Kris Deering in Sound and Vision on the UB9000 paired with JVC's projector and how the 350 nit and 500 nit HDR Optimizer modes are best used. Very good read, here's the link.

06-07-2019, 11:47 PM	#463
RogerMathus Member Member since:Jun 2010 Blu-ray collection:7	Both the UB9000 and Roku in same location and connected wireless with speed of 50 measured at location.

06-08-2019, 10:32 AM	#465
sapiendut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:3	His problem is not because of the wireless connection. All my clients’ player with audio sync problem on the 9000 are using wired connection.

06-08-2019, 04:53 PM	#467
sapiendut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:3	The 820 does not have this problem

06-09-2019, 02:01 AM	#469
sapiendut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:3	Didn’t you read what I wrote? It’s only on Netflix app and it’s only in certain UB9000. Never seen this happen on the 820 and most UB9000 don’t have this problem. I already reported mune and several others (my clients) directly to Panasonic Canada.

06-19-2019, 10:07 PM	#470
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Originally I established the UB9000 price at $999, but to maintain the normal m/u it should have been higher. I'm glad we created and was able to cap the retail price at under one thousand. I just received a letter from Panasonic USA's senior executive warning the few select direct dealers of a possible increase as early as July 1st if the proposed new round of tariffs on goods imported from China are imposed. This new round of tariffs would trigger an immediate and significant price increase on the UB9000 as well as many other CE products. The UB9000 would be most effected as I kept the margin low so none of the increase can be adsorbed. Just wanted to pass along the best heads-up notice as just moments ago this was told to me. Supply is very constrained, most retailers are sold out and the temporary IR promotion ends this Sunday.

06-19-2019, 11:06 PM	#472
danny24 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Feb 2010 4K collection:32 Blu-ray collection:43 Trading Score:58	Best Buy now says sold out for the UB9000 that might have something to do with what Robert mentioned. It was available for sale just a few days ago and now strangely sold out. Value Electronics still has stock and you can save 5% for a short while. Glad I already have one bought from VE with the coming price increase it's nice to have it cheaper.

06-19-2019, 11:50 PM	#473
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Yes, the pending tariffs will effect the UB820 price.

06-20-2019, 08:36 PM	#474
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 205	So in July we might see a new higher list price for Panasonic Blu-ray players. I wish Panasonic would issue a firmware update to offer SACD and DVD-AUDIO support. Years ago Panasonic supported DVD-Audio on some Blu-ray players, with Sony and Pioneer supporting SACD and DVD-Audio, Panasonic should consider offering that feature that requires licensing. If the list price is going to be raised then its the perfect opportunity to issue a licensed SACD/DVD-Audio support. Pioneer offers nice tone mapping also but the Pioneer is only 2.0 analog audio output. The Panasonic with 7.1 analog audio output would be almost perfect Blu-ray player if that SACD and DVD-Audio feature was offered. The main reason people buy Pioneer and Sony Blu-ray players is because of the SACD/DVD-Audio disc support. Some OPPO owners would purchase Panasonic if the SACD/DVD Audio feature was offered.

06-20-2019, 09:25 PM	#475
Waboman Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Dec 2009 Location:In a van down by the river 4K collection:197 Blu-ray collection:500 Trading Score:3	According to my BBY app, they still have the 9000 in stock. Although, I bought mine thru Robert and wholeheartedly recommend him, it's good to have options.

06-20-2019, 09:28 PM	#476
sapiendut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:3	According to Panasonic, there is not enough space for the DVD-A and SACD functionality on the firmware chip.

06-21-2019, 05:53 PM	#480
sapiendut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:3	I’m hoping for the same too. Even I can have a universal player, why not.

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