IMAX Enhanced

[sapiendut]

1. His comparison is NOT DV vs HDR10+. Have you actually watched the video? He also talk about the lack of grain in IE, being brighter etc. Being brighter/darker has no correlation with which HDR format being used.

2. He uses Sony TV to test it. Sony TV does NOT have HDR10+, therefore it’s not an HDR comparison.

3. IE is a certification (like THX certification), whereas DV is an HDR format, not a certification.

[avs commenter]

After watching that video I'm trying to figure out what the point of IE is. It even had the same aspect ratio as the Vudu stream

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

I be more worried about the DNR observed in his comparison instead of making it HDR10+ vs DV. Shouldn’t see detail removed to make a video better.

Yup! IE uses grain reduction algorithm. In fact, commercial IMAX presentations have the video master de-grained and overall brightness boosted to create the illusion of brighter and cleaner image

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by avs commenter

After watching that video I'm trying to figure out what the point of IE is. It even had the same aspect ratio as the Vudu stream

There is no real purpose for it.

HDR10+ is optional

Certain level of brightness required for display panel does not exist

Minimum screen size? 65” which even when IE was introduced have never been considered as big in the context of home theatre.

[rroeder]

I'm gonna buy Space station next week so my 900F will just go into regular HDR mode correct? I wasn't sure if it was gonna be a diff picture mode like DV or what but sounds like no

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by avs commenter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWFHtrY4q68

lol @ "just because it has grain, doesn't mean it has less detail". In case anyone wonders why I don't normally give this lot the time of day, that's why. Still, they know what their core audience is about: "we know you guys hate to see grain and noise". Again: loooooooooolz.

And yes, David is correct: this isn't about one HDR standard vs another, this is about one grading (using the existing PQ EOTF) versus another, along with one philosophy that abhors that nasty grain stuff. I did say this when someone aksed how best to emulate 'IMAX enhanced' in the home and I wasn't too far off the mark:

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Just turn on the noise reduction

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by rroeder

I'm gonna buy Space station next week so my 900F will just go into regular HDR mode correct? I wasn't sure if it was gonna be a diff picture mode like DV or what but sounds like no

Without HDR10+ it will go to HDR10. No DV option.

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

lol @ "just because it has grain, doesn't mean it has less detail". In case anyone wonders why I don't normally give this lot the time of day, that's why. Still, they know what their core audience is about: "we know you guys hate to see grain and noise". Again: loooooooooolz.

And yes, David is correct: this isn't about one HDR standard vs another, this is about one grading (using the existing PQ EOTF) versus another, along with one philosophy that abhors that nasty grain stuff. I did say this when someone aksed how best to emulate 'IMAX enhanced' in the home and I wasn't too far off the mark:

and boost the panel brightness. Don’t forget boosting panel brightness.

[Geoff D]

Boosting brightness at the apparent expense of clipping highlight detail throughout, but no doubt we'll get people saying that they prefer it because it "pops" more than the regular DV/HDR10. Might as well call it "Pimp my transfer".

[sapiendut]

I liked the idea of IE certification in the beginning. But once they quietly dropped the HDR10+ as a must-have, changing the recommended crossover points AFTER the IE Certification was launched, and heard from them as for image quality goes, the certification is done by the approval of a panel of golden-eyed judges, I’m completely lost.

I’m still backing IE in hope to get native IMAX features with the best PQ/AQ possible.

[Geoff D]

Will it ever see anything released on disc aside from IMAX documentaries though? Makes me wonder if the studios don't want to cannibalise disc sales with something that they'll have to pay a tithe to IMAX for, whereas with streaming there are so many services offering so many versions that one more makes **** all difference.

[HDTV1080P]

While its awesome to have IMAX Enhanced certification and IMAX features in displays, A/V receivers, and 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs so that DTS X soundtracks can be automatically adjusted properly (Dolby ATMOS not supported). However on the video side IMAX enhanced only supports HDR10. Dolby Vision HDR and HDR10+ is not supported by IMAX Enhanced.


Maybe its time for Dolby Cinema to come out with a home certification process that uses Dolby ATMOS and Dolby Vision HDR.

[sapiendut]

HDR10+ is supported by IE. I have IE UHD demo disc and it has HDR10+

[slimdude]

This IMAX Enhanced for home theater is a joke! There is nothing like the real thing. What makes IMAX theaters so unique is because, the overall presentation cannot be replicated at home. So if anybody is buying into this IMAX Enhanced feature, they're only fooling themselves, because, it's not real IMAX. If you don't have a 72 Ft × 53 Ft screen, a genuine IMAX Projector (which cost between $100.000 - $250.000 and a powerful 12,000 watts sound system with numerous speakers, you don't have IMAX. You want to see and hear the Real McCoy? go to a IMAX Theater.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by slimdude

This IMAX Enhanced for home theater is a joke! There is nothing like the real thing. What makes IMAX theaters so unique is because, the overall presentation cannot be replicated at home. So if anybody is buying into this IMAX Enhanced feature, they're only fooling themselves, because, it's not real IMAX. If you don't have a 72 Ft × 53 Ft screen, a genuine IMAX Projector (which cost between $100.000 - $250.000 and a powerful 12,000 watts sound system with numerous speakers, you don't have IMAX. You want to see and hear the Real McCoy? go to a IMAX Theater.

Facts!

[bendermac]

Thanks to IMAX we got the annoying shifting aspect ratios. IE is another BS layer nobody needs. Just saying

[JohnAV]

I would venture to say anyone that was a diehard THX fan is likely to fall for IMAX enhanced just because of the typical marketing BS in order to sell products that really don't offer any real improvement in performance. Buts its certified!

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

I would venture to say anyone that was a diehard THX fan is likely to fall for IMAX enhanced just because of the typical marketing BS in order to sell products that really don't offer any real improvement in performance. Buts its certified!

And you would venture wrong. Very wrong.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

And you would venture wrong. Very wrong.

Oh yeah, "THX Certification is a true seal of quality. From TVs and speaker systems to 4K HDMI cables".

Those are many example where the certification of any device that is questionable.

THX certified earphones by 1more. Are they really better then a lot of studio monitor earphones or other high-priced earphones out there. Heck no.

The same can be said with many things certified by THX. Its a example of a industry that pays to have some label attached that supposedly makes the product better. How about those Logitech Z625 THX Certified speakers, same thing, they sound awful.

I'm not knocking everything that THX does, but it did turn into a joke.

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

Facts!

The facts is all over the net. If you're a multi-million or billionaire, you can buy just about anything you want, including having your own custom IMAX theater build on your estate, but be prepared to spend well over a million dollars to have it done. You will have to hire a professional IMAX projectionist, sound technician to operate the equipment, and show the feature for you because, you wouldn't have a clue, to know how to do it yourself! Most people don't have that kind of money to spend on a custom made home theater, so therefore it would be a lot cheaper just to go to a IMAX theater to get the full IMAX experience. Generally, would it be worth spending that kind of money on a home theater, if a person is not going to be there all the time to watch movies on a regular basis anyway? The answer is no.