The Lion King (2019) - Page 68 - Blu-ray Forum

imsounoriginal · 07-19-2019, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by InuYashaCrusade

No just everyone around here feels like they're a big name movie critic and very sophisticated individuals.

Everyone I've talked to offline has loved the movie and thought it was fantastic, myself included. This is usually how it works. Everyone online is a big critic, yet general audiences are easy to please.

People on boards like these tend to watch more movies than general audiences, not to mention a broader variety of movies. It's not so much that people are snobby or hard to please, just that they don't restrict themselves to only seeing the popular tentpole fare.

that1guystudios · 07-19-2019, 02:21 PM

Saw this in IMAX 3D last night.

I felt the film translated to the new medium fairly well. I watched the original a few days prior so that it was fresh in my mind.

I don't have any major problems with this remake. It had some really neat visuals and the animation itself was fantastic.

I had hoped for a more visually-stylized version of "Just Can't Wait to Be King" - instead it just matched the photo-realism of the rest of the film.

I felt there were issues with pacing (skipping over or rushing through important beats co yet adding some unnecessary background elements that didn't really add up to much - what was up with the unnecessarily long "hair traveling via dung" scene?) I also missed the more dusky/night look of "Can you feel the Love Tonight" in the original.

Though I casually enjoyed the Beyonce track "Spirit" on the soundtrack it felt shoehorned into the film rather haphazardly and made me long for Zimmer and Lebo M's score/vocal work. I did get a kick out of the scene that replaced the Luau/Hula scene - won't spoil it here.

I felt that John Oliver, Seth Rogen and Billy Eichner added a lot of humor and brought something new and enjoyable to their characters. I also felt the vocal work of JC McCrary as Young Simba deserves to be mentioned - his emotion and inflection was perfect in the post-stampede scene.

I've heard some state that Beyonce and Glover sound bored, but to me it felt like they were simply imitating the cadence of Broderick and Kelly from the original film at times.

The 3D Presentation:
The 3D felt very realistic but was reserved. Very similar to the 3D in The Jungle Book remake. This is medium level 3D throughout, not a lot of mild or strong shots - but it consistently helps draw you into the environment.
I'd prefer it to have been pushed a bit stronger the way that Marvel presents their more recent films, but after seeing it in 3D I doubt I'd be able to watch it in any other format.

I'll be happy to own both films and watch either one again, but if someone asks me which one I'd rather rewatch, it will always be the original. Those with an aversion to hand-drawn animation (I have a few folks in my family who feel this way) will likely prefer this new version.

InuYashaCrusade · 07-19-2019, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

People on boards like these tend to watch more movies than general audiences, not to mention a broader variety of movies. It's not so much that people are snobby or hard to please, just that they don't restrict themselves to only seeing the popular tentpole fare.

Probably the best way to describe it, yeah.

filmbuffTX · 07-19-2019, 03:37 PM

Select “IMAX with Laser” locations are playing a version of The Lion King with expanded aspect ratios.

12 in the U.S. and 28 abroad

[Show spoiler]

https://www.imax.com/news/see-up-to-...-imax-theatres

nesboy43 · 07-19-2019, 03:47 PM

My wife and I loved it. I actually was happy to see a remake that was a remake. It is a story that I liked and if I see a different version of it it is for the visuals, not to see a new story. Of all the remakes this is the best for me. Great music and voice cast too. I wish all the live action remakes were actual remakes and not new stories.

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Originally Posted by ImBlu_DaBaDee

The Lion King (1994) is one of my all-time favorite films, so I was looking forward to this for sure. Sadly, I’m underwhelmed. I just didn’t feel anything honestly. Chiwetel Eijofor as Scar was fantastic, as were the new versions of the hyenas. I also really enjoyed the young actor who played Simba as a cub. Some of Zazu and Timon and Pumbaa’s new riffs were good too, although

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Beyoncé and Donald Glover sounded pretty bored. Rafiki was a huge letdown in this version. Obviously the visuals were great, but they also didn’t impact me because they don’t compare in my opinion to the stylized colors and mood set by the 2D animation. Maybe if they didn’t try to recreate scenes so exactly it wouldn’t have been as distracting. Oh well, I still enjoyed my evening and nothing about it made me angry, which is far more than I can say about the Dumbo remake. I’m still stunned that I ended up liking the Aladdin remake the best of the bunch this year.

5/10

I don't see how

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imsounoriginal · 07-19-2019, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by filmbuffTX

Select “IMAX with Laser” locations are playing a version of The Lion King with expanded aspect ratios.

12 in the U.S. and 28 abroad

[Show spoiler]

https://www.imax.com/news/see-up-to-...-imax-theatres

Will be seeing it at one of those locations so yay

J999 · 07-19-2019, 04:03 PM

Just saw this and I thought it was amazing!! The original is my favorite Disney movie. Watched it again last night. Cant say its AS good or anything but would never have expected that. Thats not the point really. I liked that the movie mainly stayed true to the original too . Had chills all through Circle of Life and so many other moments seeing the original re-created with "real" animals.

Yankees0222 · 07-19-2019, 04:18 PM

I thought it was fun and the visuals were striking. I think critics and some of the people on this forum are being to harsh on this film. It was pretty much what I expected it to be and I was pleased

4/5

LifeNeedsMovies · 07-19-2019, 04:29 PM

I just don't understand the negativity around this film. It was around Aladdin too.. I loved both movies. Again, these are retelling of the stories we loved so much. You have to accept that before watching these remakes. They won't out do the original. But its an opportunity to re live the magic of a great disney movie with new technology. Audiences at my screening were having a blast. Met with an applause when the credits rolled.

Aladdin was trashed but went on to making near a Billion dollars. The reviews discourage so many people and honestly I feel like people form an opinion just by the reviews. The same will happen with Lion King. Alot of people will be like "i heard it sucks" cuz of the reviews. That will affect the box office but not enough to stop disney. Cuz audiences in general enjoy themselves when watching these remakes.

Falaskan · 07-19-2019, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

People on boards like these tend to watch more movies than general audiences, not to mention a broader variety of movies. It's not so much that people are snobby or hard to please, just that they don't restrict themselves to only seeing the popular tentpole fare.

I think that’s exactly what it is, sometimes.

Also, weren’t a lot of people complaining about too many changes to the stories, in the remakes?

Porco Azzurro · 07-19-2019, 05:14 PM

Just saw this in IMAX 3D. Thought it was magnificent.

MikeScott · 07-19-2019, 06:32 PM

I'm glad I haven't seen the original in YEARS so I don't remember that much from it. Will be more enjoyable that way. Would hate watching a shot-for-shot remake with the original fresh in my mind.

BigPudge · 07-19-2019, 06:42 PM

This one was kind of meh.

Aladdin was a MUCH better updating. The added stuff in that really added to the movie and helped it create its own identity which worked great.

The added stuff in this REALLY slowed down the pace od the movie.

I'm really surprised this didn't get a PG13, it is WAY dark. I guess the original was dark toox but this one REALLY took it up a notch in the dark factor.

Thabk god for Timon and Pumba... definitely the highlights of the movie and much needed light heartedness in such a heavy movie

Monterey Jack · 07-19-2019, 06:44 PM

4/10

Akin to watching a Fred Astaire dance routine where Fred has five-pound lead weights attached to each ankle, The Lion King '19 gets the routines down, but you can see the sweat of exertion throughout, and the whole enterprise ends up feeling slowed-down and strained to the point of exhaustion. Scenes that exploded with color, humor and pathos in the original -- by being buried under this technically-dazzling but emotionally-distancing digital skin -- now come across as cloddish, lethargic and not fun in the slightest. The voice acting is rote (even James Earl Jones sounds every bit as distressingly elderly as he did reprising Darth Vader in Rogue One a few years back, the effect as distracting as hearing an 80-something Clint Eastwood and Eli Wallach dubbing the additional scenes plonked into The Good, The Bad & The Ugly as they reprise roles they played almost forty years earlier), the added bits of humor fall flat(ulence), and no matter how much these characters resemble actual African wildlife, there's no glimmer of relatable human emotion in their meticulously-detailed faces and eyes. It's like...would you find a Bugs Bunny cartoon funnier if he looked like an actual bunny? The creators of Bugs always viewed him as a human being who just wore a bunny costume, and that's what made him amusing to watch. Ditto for the original Lion King, which holds up a quarter-century later because these "cartooney" pen & ink lions have more relatable humanity than all of the digital processing power and millions of dollars expended by Disney in this desperately unnecessary cash-grab. The Nostalgia Critic's recent review of the original had a good gag at the end when he flashed the poster for Black Panther at the end when he talked about seeing the real "live-action" Lion King remake, and that's what's missing from this new film...anything that would distinguish it from just throwing the original in your DVD player and saving about $50 in tickets and snacks for the kids to see this soulless, eerie, creatively empty botch.

prozacnation1978 · 07-19-2019, 06:49 PM

I saw it i liked it, but seemed some points of the film i was bored, the music was meh, i liked alladin more than this film.

JamesKurtovich · 07-19-2019, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Falaskan

I think that’s exactly what it is, sometimes.

Also, weren’t a lot of people complaining about too many changes to the stories, in the remakes?

I can only imagine you're paddling upstream with a remake in a lose-lose situation. Most people go into it thinking "Aside from wanting more money, why did they make this again?"

Arganblawpher · 07-19-2019, 07:13 PM

My overall score is 6/10 stars. It was an okay movie, but it had a lot of issues. It didn't have any heart. This is from a guy who was hyped to see the movie. I do recommend people watching it at least once for the visuals because it looks amazing. I liked the fact that Jon Favreau remained closely** faithful to the original. People have been saying it's an exact shot for shot remake, but that's fake news. It's basically the same scenes but with some difference in camera angles and additional scenes here and there. The obvious pros for the movie are James Earl Jones and Hans Zimmer. Surprisingly, Chiwetel Ejiofor does an impressive Scar in this rendition.

The main problem with the movie- Some of the voice acting is awful.

* Donald Glover reading lines like it's just another paycheck.

* Beyonce over-complicating the song, "Can you feel the love tonight," with runs and pitch changing. (In every line, she sings it like, "Can you feel the love toniyiyiyight.") That was cringeworthy. The song is supposed to be simple and be harmonized with the duet partner. However, since they were clearly singing from different booths and recording at different times, it just feels like Beyonce is trying desperately to one-up Donald. Which ruins the atmosphere. I was not feeling it.

** Some actions from characters were changed which ruined some of the scenes.

WARNING SPOILER INCOMING:

Just before the finale when Sarabi walks through the hyena's and confronts Scar, the conversation isn't about Sarabi finding food. Since the hyenas are the ones doing the hunting in this movie. Scar is just denying the lioness' any food because Sarabi doesn't want to be Scar's Queen. This is just another Hollywood's liberal attempt to push female empowerment. (It's stupid because in the original film she was extremely strong throughout that scene.) Instead of building up the tension by having her get knocked on the ground from Scar's slap, Scar and Sarabi actually go full on slap battle. No lie. Then, a few slaps later Simba show's up where you can hear Donald blatantly read off a script. If I'm not mistaken and if I remember correctly that's how it went down in the 2019 version... (correct me if I'm wrong about my description of what happened) It really felt like there was no tension in that scene because it felt like Sarabi can easily handle her own and destroy Scar herself.

Falaskan · 07-19-2019, 07:24 PM

I for one, love the idea of a nature documentary look. As long as the voice acting is good, I’m fine.

I feel this way about the Prince of Egypt (If they ever were to make a live action version). I think the original is perfect and would be perfectly fine to see a scene by scene remake in live action. When they do the Snow White remake I hope it’s very close to the original as well.

You guys made your own bed, time to lie in it. One of the biggest complaints against these remakes was unnecessary changes. Disney listened. Now they stick closer to the original besides it being live action (photorealistic in this case) and people still complain. If they were to mimic the very facial features of the lions, what would even be the point?

For those that have actually seen it, are there any actual humans in this (tribesman, poachers, etc.)?

Porco Azzurro · 07-19-2019, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Falaskan

For those that have actually seen it, are there any actual humans in this (tribesman, poachers, etc.)?

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Rizor · 07-19-2019, 08:04 PM

Looked amazing, but I don't think it hit the story beats, lines, and emotions quite as well as the animated movie. Or maybe my mind just knows it's just a technically impressive cover version of a classic?

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07-19-2019, 04:03 PM	#1347
J999 Special Member Member since:Jun 2017 Location:Canada 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:350 DVD collection:400 Digital collection:110 iTunes collection:63	Just saw this and I thought it was amazing!! The original is my favorite Disney movie. Watched it again last night. Cant say its AS good or anything but would never have expected that. Thats not the point really. I liked that the movie mainly stayed true to the original too . Had chills all through Circle of Life and so many other moments seeing the original re-created with "real" animals. Last edited by J999; 07-19-2019 at 07:40 PM.

07-19-2019, 07:13 PM	#1357
Arganblawpher Junior Member Member since:Jan 2019 Blu-ray collection:8	One time deal. My overall score is 6/10 stars. It was an okay movie, but it had a lot of issues. It didn't have any heart. This is from a guy who was hyped to see the movie. I do recommend people watching it at least once for the visuals because it looks amazing. I liked the fact that Jon Favreau remained closely** faithful to the original. People have been saying it's an exact shot for shot remake, but that's fake news. It's basically the same scenes but with some difference in camera angles and additional scenes here and there. The obvious pros for the movie are James Earl Jones and Hans Zimmer. Surprisingly, Chiwetel Ejiofor does an impressive Scar in this rendition. The main problem with the movie- Some of the voice acting is awful. * Donald Glover reading lines like it's just another paycheck. * Beyonce over-complicating the song, "Can you feel the love tonight," with runs and pitch changing. (In every line, she sings it like, "Can you feel the love toniyiyiyight.") That was cringeworthy. The song is supposed to be simple and be harmonized with the duet partner. However, since they were clearly singing from different booths and recording at different times, it just feels like Beyonce is trying desperately to one-up Donald. Which ruins the atmosphere. I was not feeling it. ** Some actions from characters were changed which ruined some of the scenes. WARNING SPOILER INCOMING: Just before the finale when Sarabi walks through the hyena's and confronts Scar, the conversation isn't about Sarabi finding food. Since the hyenas are the ones doing the hunting in this movie. Scar is just denying the lioness' any food because Sarabi doesn't want to be Scar's Queen. This is just another Hollywood's liberal attempt to push female empowerment. (It's stupid because in the original film she was extremely strong throughout that scene.) Instead of building up the tension by having her get knocked on the ground from Scar's slap, Scar and Sarabi actually go full on slap battle. No lie. Then, a few slaps later Simba show's up where you can hear Donald blatantly read off a script. If I'm not mistaken and if I remember correctly that's how it went down in the 2019 version... (correct me if I'm wrong about my description of what happened) It really felt like there was no tension in that scene because it felt like Sarabi can easily handle her own and destroy Scar herself. Last edited by Arganblawpher; 07-19-2019 at 08:09 PM.

07-19-2019, 02:21 PM	#1342
that1guystudios 3D Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Oh I come from a land, from a faraway place... 4K collection:289 Blu-ray collection:1219 DVD collection:223 MA collection:1219 Digital collection:343 iTunes collection:145 Blu-ray reviews: 30 Trading Score:117	Saw this in IMAX 3D last night. I felt the film translated to the new medium fairly well. I watched the original a few days prior so that it was fresh in my mind. I don't have any major problems with this remake. It had some really neat visuals and the animation itself was fantastic. I had hoped for a more visually-stylized version of "Just Can't Wait to Be King" - instead it just matched the photo-realism of the rest of the film. I felt there were issues with pacing (skipping over or rushing through important beats co yet adding some unnecessary background elements that didn't really add up to much - what was up with the unnecessarily long "hair traveling via dung" scene?) I also missed the more dusky/night look of "Can you feel the Love Tonight" in the original. Though I casually enjoyed the Beyonce track "Spirit" on the soundtrack it felt shoehorned into the film rather haphazardly and made me long for Zimmer and Lebo M's score/vocal work. I did get a kick out of the scene that replaced the Luau/Hula scene - won't spoil it here. I felt that John Oliver, Seth Rogen and Billy Eichner added a lot of humor and brought something new and enjoyable to their characters. I also felt the vocal work of JC McCrary as Young Simba deserves to be mentioned - his emotion and inflection was perfect in the post-stampede scene. I've heard some state that Beyonce and Glover sound bored, but to me it felt like they were simply imitating the cadence of Broderick and Kelly from the original film at times. The 3D Presentation: The 3D felt very realistic but was reserved. Very similar to the 3D in The Jungle Book remake. This is medium level 3D throughout, not a lot of mild or strong shots - but it consistently helps draw you into the environment. I'd prefer it to have been pushed a bit stronger the way that Marvel presents their more recent films, but after seeing it in 3D I doubt I'd be able to watch it in any other format. I'll be happy to own both films and watch either one again, but if someone asks me which one I'd rather rewatch, it will always be the original. Those with an aversion to hand-drawn animation (I have a few folks in my family who feel this way) will likely prefer this new version.

07-19-2019, 03:37 PM	#1344
filmbuffTX Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:May 2015 4K collection:267 Blu-ray collection:6361 DVD collection:2270 Digital collection:1617 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:16	Select “IMAX with Laser” locations are playing a version of The Lion King with expanded aspect ratios. 12 in the U.S. and 28 abroad [Show spoiler] https://www.imax.com/news/see-up-to-...-imax-theatres

07-19-2019, 04:18 PM	#1348
Yankees0222 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2009 Location:Colorado 4K collection:73 Blu-ray collection:1856 DVD collection:315 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:172	I thought it was fun and the visuals were striking. I think critics and some of the people on this forum are being to harsh on this film. It was pretty much what I expected it to be and I was pleased 4/5

07-19-2019, 04:29 PM	#1349
LifeNeedsMovies Senior Member Member since:Sep 2015	I just don't understand the negativity around this film. It was around Aladdin too.. I loved both movies. Again, these are retelling of the stories we loved so much. You have to accept that before watching these remakes. They won't out do the original. But its an opportunity to re live the magic of a great disney movie with new technology. Audiences at my screening were having a blast. Met with an applause when the credits rolled. Aladdin was trashed but went on to making near a Billion dollars. The reviews discourage so many people and honestly I feel like people form an opinion just by the reviews. The same will happen with Lion King. Alot of people will be like "i heard it sucks" cuz of the reviews. That will affect the box office but not enough to stop disney. Cuz audiences in general enjoy themselves when watching these remakes.

07-19-2019, 05:14 PM	#1351
Porco Azzurro Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2009 Location:UK 4K collection:548 Blu-ray collection:2724	Just saw this in IMAX 3D. Thought it was magnificent.

07-19-2019, 06:32 PM	#1352
MikeScott Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jul 2010 Location:Minnesota Trading Score:503	I'm glad I haven't seen the original in YEARS so I don't remember that much from it. Will be more enjoyable that way. Would hate watching a shot-for-shot remake with the original fresh in my mind.

07-19-2019, 06:42 PM	#1353
BigPudge Power Member Member since:Dec 2010 4K collection:473 Blu-ray collection:3341 DVD collection:1432	This one was kind of meh. Aladdin was a MUCH better updating. The added stuff in that really added to the movie and helped it create its own identity which worked great. The added stuff in this REALLY slowed down the pace od the movie. I'm really surprised this didn't get a PG13, it is WAY dark. I guess the original was dark toox but this one REALLY took it up a notch in the dark factor. Thabk god for Timon and Pumba... definitely the highlights of the movie and much needed light heartedness in such a heavy movie

07-19-2019, 06:44 PM	#1354
Monterey Jack Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Oct 2011 Trading Score:710	4/10 Akin to watching a Fred Astaire dance routine where Fred has five-pound lead weights attached to each ankle, The Lion King '19 gets the routines down, but you can see the sweat of exertion throughout, and the whole enterprise ends up feeling slowed-down and strained to the point of exhaustion. Scenes that exploded with color, humor and pathos in the original -- by being buried under this technically-dazzling but emotionally-distancing digital skin -- now come across as cloddish, lethargic and not fun in the slightest. The voice acting is rote (even James Earl Jones sounds every bit as distressingly elderly as he did reprising Darth Vader in Rogue One a few years back, the effect as distracting as hearing an 80-something Clint Eastwood and Eli Wallach dubbing the additional scenes plonked into The Good, The Bad & The Ugly as they reprise roles they played almost forty years earlier), the added bits of humor fall flat(ulence), and no matter how much these characters resemble actual African wildlife, there's no glimmer of relatable human emotion in their meticulously-detailed faces and eyes. It's like...would you find a Bugs Bunny cartoon funnier if he looked like an actual bunny? The creators of Bugs always viewed him as a human being who just wore a bunny costume, and that's what made him amusing to watch. Ditto for the original Lion King, which holds up a quarter-century later because these "cartooney" pen & ink lions have more relatable humanity than all of the digital processing power and millions of dollars expended by Disney in this desperately unnecessary cash-grab. The Nostalgia Critic's recent review of the original had a good gag at the end when he flashed the poster for Black Panther at the end when he talked about seeing the real "live-action" Lion King remake, and that's what's missing from this new film...anything that would distinguish it from just throwing the original in your DVD player and saving about $50 in tickets and snacks for the kids to see this soulless, eerie, creatively empty botch.

07-19-2019, 06:49 PM	#1355
prozacnation1978 Banned Member since:Oct 2010 Location:san diego california	I saw it i liked it, but seemed some points of the film i was bored, the music was meh, i liked alladin more than this film.

07-19-2019, 07:24 PM	#1358
Falaskan Banned Top contributor Member since:Mar 2011 Location:Alaska Blu-ray collection:274 DVD collection:60 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:44	I for one, love the idea of a nature documentary look. As long as the voice acting is good, I’m fine. I feel this way about the Prince of Egypt (If they ever were to make a live action version). I think the original is perfect and would be perfectly fine to see a scene by scene remake in live action. When they do the Snow White remake I hope it’s very close to the original as well. You guys made your own bed, time to lie in it. One of the biggest complaints against these remakes was unnecessary changes. Disney listened. Now they stick closer to the original besides it being live action (photorealistic in this case) and people still complain. If they were to mimic the very facial features of the lions, what would even be the point? For those that have actually seen it, are there any actual humans in this (tribesman, poachers, etc.)?

07-19-2019, 08:04 PM	#1360
Rizor Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:NJ, USA 4K collection:1602 Blu-ray collection:6185 DVD collection:192 MA collection:73 Digital collection:51 iTunes collection:29 Prime collection:7 Blu-ray reviews: 32 Trading Score:159	Looked amazing, but I don't think it hit the story beats, lines, and emotions quite as well as the animated movie. Or maybe my mind just knows it's just a technically impressive cover version of a classic?

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