The Lion King (2019) - Page 70 - Blu-ray Forum

Damon1281 · 07-20-2019, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiGuy

Technically astonishing. But I think here's the main problem--in 2D animation the characters can run fast and loose with facial expressions and unbelievable antics. In the new version the annimators are obviously going for photo-realism. Except for the moving mouths (which is pretty restrained in the movie), the characters simply don't express any (anthropomorphic) emotions. I think this is why some people are saying it's a bit "cold". It's almost like watching a documentary with Clutch-Cargo mouth movements.

Yeah it was kind of like watching that youtube "dog tease".

Diesel · 07-20-2019, 01:57 AM

This is one I will not be revisiting sadly. I had high hopes but it was incredibly disappointing. The only ones who sounded like they wanted to be there were Scar, Timon and Pumba. Glover and Beyoncé were straight up terrible in my opinion and neither delivered a single good line. Even James Earl Jones sounded like he phoned it in. Now maybe that was due to bad direction, but regardless the end product is weak regardless.

The first half of the movie was passable mostly but I was just waiting for it to end in the second half. The Be Prepared scene was atrocious and the fight with Scar at the end was pitiful.

Two pluses I will give it over the original though is Mufasa showing up during the hyena scene and giving Simba more time to reflect on what happened before meeting Timon and Pumba.

3/5 at best

Zivouhr · 07-20-2019, 02:17 AM

Narnia 2013 shows human expressions with the lion

Lion King 2019 uses more blank expressions, mostly just talking, and head movement to some degree.

For realistic animals, it's a careful line to consider with expressions. If going for realism, for animals to express themselves like humans, might be going too far into making it unrealistic. If going for realism, moving the mouths subtly might be the better option at the cost of being less emotional visually.

EDIT: Disney had to decide to go with human expressions or realistic expressions from animals, and they chose realism. Was that the best choice? Could this be viewed as one of those talking dog and cat movies where we see the real animal with simple animal expressions as someone narrates their voice?

Sozo · 07-20-2019, 03:40 AM

Only Dumbo has failed to live up to my expectations this year--it was truly one of the worst films of the year. Aladdin was fantastic and The Lion King was about as good as I thought it would be, given all the pre-release criticism. I enjoyed it, as I've enjoyed all the iterations of this story one way or another.

y2jman · 07-20-2019, 03:51 AM

I saw it this afternoon thought it was pretty good

fighthefutureofhd · 07-20-2019, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Monterey Jack

Hell, Babe did this better 24 years ago (despite the crudity of the CG lip-synch effects by today's standards) because it at least had ACTUAL damn animals in it.

Not really. Sorry, but the only pig I want to see is on my plate next to a couple of scrambled eggs. F--k this talking pig s--t! You just reminded that Hollywood has always made god awful decisions. Thanks! I needed that does of reality.

SteelbookCat · 07-20-2019, 04:47 AM

great movie scar stole the show but james earl jones lacked as mufasa this time around maybe a different actor should of taken his place like morgan freeman

litost88 · 07-20-2019, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

But they totally fumbled the Mufasa's Ghost re-imagination. I kept waiting for that scene to really hit its peak, but it fizzles very quickly and just leaves zero impression.

This. It felt so rushed up. I didn't get emotions during that part. They even changed the dialogue. Simba's face was the worst of it. I think they missed a big opportunity in here.

XavierTheaterPotato · 07-20-2019, 05:10 AM

I obviously didn't enjoy this as much as the family member I took for their birthday early. There's a good barrier from me connecting to any character.

brooks101189 · 07-20-2019, 05:12 AM

After watching the remake Thursday, I don't agree with critics and bloggers saying the animals are not emotive.

I defended it before the film was released, and I'll say it now, the animals emote very well. A large part of that has to do with the eyes and the way their bodies move in general. The hyenas are especially emotive.

Freezeup · 07-20-2019, 05:29 AM

Again, while not big fan of the Disney live-action adaptations, I was looking forward to this since I LOVED Jungle Book. The animal driven ones seem to gravitate me more to them.

With that said, while it doesn't compare to the emotion and impact of the original, I really enjoyed it. For the cute animals alone

7-8/10 for me. Standard fare for what you'd expect but not as good as it could have been.

Falaskan · 07-20-2019, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

Not really. Sorry, but the only pig I want to see is on my plate next to a couple of scrambled eggs. F--k this talking pig s--t! You just reminded that Hollywood has always made god awful decisions. Thanks! I needed that does of reality.

The original is good no matter how bad. The remake is bad by association no matter how good.

J999 · 07-20-2019, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brooks101189

After watching the remake Thursday, I don't agree with critics and bloggers saying the animals are not emotive.

I defended it before the film was released, and I'll say it now, the animals emote very well. A large part of that has to do with the eyes and the way their bodies move in general. The hyenas are especially emotive.

The only time I kind of noticed was Zazu. John Oliver was so enthusiastic in all his lines, but the bird just opens and closes his mouth. However, I thought the lions and other animals emoted just fine. I agree that a lot comes through in the eyes. Scar in particular seemed expressive to me.

JustinB13 · 07-20-2019, 12:52 PM

If anyone has a Letterboxd account, go to The Lion King’s page...

Member-275053 · 07-20-2019, 03:13 PM

Well, the critics were right. The Lion King is beautiful but strangely lifeless. Billy Eichner and Seth Rogen as Timon and Pumbaa are standouts. 2.5/5

Falaskan · 07-20-2019, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JWFORD

Well, the critics were right. The Lion King is beautiful but strangely lifeless. Billy Eichner and Seth Rogen as Timon and Pumbaa are standouts. 2.5/5

Eichner always annoys me, so that’s sad.

ITDEFX101 · 07-20-2019, 05:42 PM

I am giving this a 3.5 out of 5 vs the 4.5 out of 5 for the original. Yes the animals all looked amazing and the lighting was amazing as well as the scenery but I guess all of us who grew up on hand drawn/animated movies miss those imperfections and small details that computer generated animals miss as it is too perfect/too life like.

I was able to show the kids in my class yesterday the original Lion King after I saw the remake the night before. I told them that the original was better. Most of them never saw the original movie. My daughter has seen the original movie and she is 4. I don't think she will last very long watching computer generated photo realistic animals .

DanTheMan · 07-20-2019, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinB13

If anyone has a Letterboxd account, go to The Lion King’s page...

Well, damn.

Chaotic · 07-20-2019, 05:55 PM

I wish the "King of Pride Rock" score was like the one in the trailer. Wasn't really a fan of it in the movie.

pwarner184 · 07-20-2019, 06:06 PM

I appreciated it on a visual level and the singing didn't bother me anywhere near as much as I'd expected.
That said... The thing that's stopping this from being anything more than a one time watch for me is the voice cast. Why does 90% of them sound so bloody bored? None of the oomph of the original.
*Snarls* "Is that a challenge!" Vs
*Literally just speaks* "Is that a challenge?"

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07-20-2019, 01:57 AM	#1382
Diesel Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 31 Trading Score:10	This is one I will not be revisiting sadly. I had high hopes but it was incredibly disappointing. The only ones who sounded like they wanted to be there were Scar, Timon and Pumba. Glover and Beyoncé were straight up terrible in my opinion and neither delivered a single good line. Even James Earl Jones sounded like he phoned it in. Now maybe that was due to bad direction, but regardless the end product is weak regardless. The first half of the movie was passable mostly but I was just waiting for it to end in the second half. The Be Prepared scene was atrocious and the fight with Scar at the end was pitiful. Two pluses I will give it over the original though is Mufasa showing up during the hyena scene and giving Simba more time to reflect on what happened before meeting Timon and Pumba. 3/5 at best

07-20-2019, 03:40 AM	#1384
Sozo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Apr 2012 Location:Kentucky 4K collection:16 Blu-ray collection:117 Trading Score:100	Only Dumbo has failed to live up to my expectations this year--it was truly one of the worst films of the year. Aladdin was fantastic and The Lion King was about as good as I thought it would be, given all the pre-release criticism. I enjoyed it, as I've enjoyed all the iterations of this story one way or another.

07-20-2019, 03:51 AM	#1385
y2jman Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2014 Location:tennessee 4K collection:716 Blu-ray collection:1694 DVD collection:1025 Trading Score:59	I saw it this afternoon thought it was pretty good

07-20-2019, 04:47 AM	#1387
SteelbookCat Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2017 4K collection:56 Blu-ray collection:104 DVD collection:69 MA collection:75 iTunes collection:2	great movie scar stole the show but james earl jones lacked as mufasa this time around maybe a different actor should of taken his place like morgan freeman

07-20-2019, 05:10 AM	#1389
XavierTheaterPotato Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2018 Location:Wisconsin, USA 4K collection:392 Blu-ray collection:598 DVD collection:33 Digital collection:3	I obviously didn't enjoy this as much as the family member I took for their birthday early. There's a good barrier from me connecting to any character.

07-20-2019, 05:12 AM	#1390
brooks101189 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2010 Location:My Home Trading Score:102	After watching the remake Thursday, I don't agree with critics and bloggers saying the animals are not emotive. I defended it before the film was released, and I'll say it now, the animals emote very well. A large part of that has to do with the eyes and the way their bodies move in general. The hyenas are especially emotive.

07-20-2019, 05:29 AM	#1391
Freezeup Expert Member Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Toronto Trading Score:1	Again, while not big fan of the Disney live-action adaptations, I was looking forward to this since I LOVED Jungle Book. The animal driven ones seem to gravitate me more to them. With that said, while it doesn't compare to the emotion and impact of the original, I really enjoyed it. For the cute animals alone 7-8/10 for me. Standard fare for what you'd expect but not as good as it could have been.

07-20-2019, 12:52 PM	#1394
JustinB13 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2015	If anyone has a Letterboxd account, go to The Lion King’s page...

07-20-2019, 03:13 PM	#1395
Member-275053 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2013	Well, the critics were right. The Lion King is beautiful but strangely lifeless. Billy Eichner and Seth Rogen as Timon and Pumbaa are standouts. 2.5/5

07-20-2019, 05:42 PM	#1397
ITDEFX101 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2012 Blu-ray collection:2	I am giving this a 3.5 out of 5 vs the 4.5 out of 5 for the original. Yes the animals all looked amazing and the lighting was amazing as well as the scenery but I guess all of us who grew up on hand drawn/animated movies miss those imperfections and small details that computer generated animals miss as it is too perfect/too life like. I was able to show the kids in my class yesterday the original Lion King after I saw the remake the night before. I told them that the original was better. Most of them never saw the original movie. My daughter has seen the original movie and she is 4. I don't think she will last very long watching computer generated photo realistic animals .

07-20-2019, 05:55 PM	#1399
Chaotic Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Denver, CO	I wish the "King of Pride Rock" score was like the one in the trailer. Wasn't really a fan of it in the movie.

07-20-2019, 06:06 PM	#1400
pwarner184 Senior Member Member since:Apr 2018 Location:UK	I appreciated it on a visual level and the singing didn't bother me anywhere near as much as I'd expected. That said... The thing that's stopping this from being anything more than a one time watch for me is the voice cast. Why does 90% of them sound so bloody bored? None of the oomph of the original. Snarls "Is that a challenge!" Vs Literally just speaks "Is that a challenge?"

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