Has Political Correctness in movies and TV gone too far?

[PH3AR]

Originally Posted by matthieuxdetoux

If I'm not mistaken both Iron Man and Body of Lies contained islamic terrorists and don't forget about things like United 93 and World Trade Center.

As far as Indiana Jones goes, they already found the holy grail so what the hell else out of christian mythology can they possibly go after?

I never knew they found the Holy Grail?

[matthieuxdetoux]

Originally Posted by P|-|3@R

I never knew they found the Holy Grail?

Indiana Jones found the holy grail in "The Last Crusade"....

Choose wisely.

[LynxFX]

I think Watchmen is pretty un-pc. Shoot-em Up had some stuff too that pushed the boundries of what is appropriate. Loved them both.

[Jamespic1118]

Political Correctness has gone WAY to far in real life....but that's a diff topic all together.

I do believe movies have gone PC....Tim Burton apologized for his 2001 movie Planet of the Apes, "Given the controversy surrounding the recent New York Post cartoon, which featured a chimp that many people took to represent President Obama, I now realize that many Americans are likely to find the portrayal of an ape president offensive. Although it is no defense, I would point out that when I made the film few would have imagined that our country would elect a black president so soon afterwards. The scene was not intended to allude in any fashion to a future black president, and I deeply regret any offense I may have caused to African-Americans, and indeed to Americans in general."

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by Jamespic1118

Political Correctness has gone WAY to far in real life....but that's a diff topic all together.

I do believe movies have gone PC....Tim Burton apologized for his 2001 movie Planet of the Apes, "Given the controversy surrounding the recent New York Post cartoon, which featured a chimp that many people took to represent President Obama, I now realize that many Americans are likely to find the portrayal of an ape president offensive. Although it is no defense, I would point out that when I made the film few would have imagined that our country would elect a black president so soon afterwards. The scene was not intended to allude in any fashion to a future black president, and I deeply regret any offense I may have caused to African-Americans, and indeed to Americans in general."

Are you Fin kidding me?

He's apologizing for a movie he made YEARS ago about a PLANET full of Apes that were the creatures ENSLAVING people and he feels the need to apologize about a cartoon that was printed a few weeks ago...?

Logan

[Rob71]

Originally Posted by Jamespic1118

Political Correctness has gone WAY to far in real life....but that's a diff topic all together.

I do believe movies have gone PC....Tim Burton apologized for his 2001 movie Planet of the Apes, "Given the controversy surrounding the recent New York Post cartoon, which featured a chimp that many people took to represent President Obama, I now realize that many Americans are likely to find the portrayal of an ape president offensive. Although it is no defense, I would point out that when I made the film few would have imagined that our country would elect a black president so soon afterwards. The scene was not intended to allude in any fashion to a future black president, and I deeply regret any offense I may have caused to African-Americans, and indeed to Americans in general."

To answer the OP's question, no it hasn't gone too far.picard.gif






I know sarcasm is sometime hard to detect on the internet, so just to be clear:

This post is being sarcastic.

[Variable]

Originally Posted by Jamespic1118

Political Correctness has gone WAY to far in real life....but that's a diff topic all together.

I do believe movies have gone PC....Tim Burton apologized for his 2001 movie Planet of the Apes, "Given the controversy surrounding the recent New York Post cartoon, which featured a chimp that many people took to represent President Obama, I now realize that many Americans are likely to find the portrayal of an ape president offensive. Although it is no defense, I would point out that when I made the film few would have imagined that our country would elect a black president so soon afterwards. The scene was not intended to allude in any fashion to a future black president, and I deeply regret any offense I may have caused to African-Americans, and indeed to Americans in general."

this isn't an example of PC-ness going to far, it's an example of Tim Burton finding a very weird reason to feel bad about something he did years ago that would never ever be taken to mean what he seems to think it could be taken to mean.

this would be a good example if people had actually made a complaint, but they didn't. he chose to apologize for no real reason at all.

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by Variable

this isn't an example of PC-ness going to far, it's an example of Tim Burton finding a very weird reason to feel bad about something he did years ago that would never ever be taken to mean what he seems to think it could be taken to mean.

this would be a good example if people had actually made a complaint, but they didn't. he chose to apologize for no real reason at all.

I didn't know he did this, and I find it extremely strange.

[Variable]

me neither

[P@t_Mtl]

The most retarded PC thing I have seen in the last 20 years is the edit of the Warner Bros cartoon on TV. That for me is the summit of stupidity. editing the stuff in the Bugs Bunny shorts or the Road Runner. When that started to happen, I sort of figured we were doomed as a specie. Thank you for the DVD releases, uncut and in original format.

I grew up with these cartoons, saw them so many times on Saturday mornings as a kid and it never made me want to do violent things. But one stupid mother cannot raise her kid the right way and the kid decided to try what the Coyote does and run's off a cliff and everyone just goes nuts.

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

The mos retarded PC thing I have seen in the last 20 years is the edit of the Warner Bros cartoon on TV. That for me is the summit of stupidity. editing the stuff in the Bugs Bunny shorts or the Road Runner. When that started to happen, I sort of figured we were doomed as a specie. Thank you for the DVD releases, uncut and in original format.

I grew up with these cartoons, saw them so many times on Saturday mornings as a kid and it never made me want to do violent things. But one stupid mother cannot raise her kid the right way and the kid decided to try what the Coyote does and run's off a cliff and everyone just goes nuts.

Agreed.

On the other side of the coin, there's Song Of The South.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Blu-Dog

Agreed.

On the other side of the coin, there's Song Of The South.

You think Disney should release it?

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

You think Disney should release it?

Yes, straight into a vat of "Dip" (see Who Framed Roger Rabbit for details)

[Rob71]

Originally Posted by Blu-Dog

Yes, straight into a vat of "Dip" (see Who Framed Roger Rabbit for details)

So your for censorship?

[Pirate King]

Originally Posted by Blu-Dog

Agreed.

On the other side of the coin, there's Song Of The South.

A perfect example of political correctness. Disney will never release this wonderful charming film because it may "offend someone". Well if that is the case.. what about "Gone with the Wind?" IMHO the answer to the question is "Yes. The movie industry has gone WAY to far with PC"

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by Pirate King

A perfect example of political correctness. Disney will never release this wonderful charming film because it may "offend someone". Well if that is the case.. what about "Gone with the Wind?" IMHO the answer to the question is "Yes. The movie industry has gone WAY to far with PC"

Wonderful?

Charming?

Gone With The Wind?

My mileage varies. Forgive me for not nodding like a dashboard dummy.

[P1rat3]

Originally Posted by Pirate King

A perfect example of political correctness. Disney will never release this wonderful charming film because it may "offend someone". Well if that is the case.. what about "Gone with the Wind?" IMHO the answer to the question is "Yes. The movie industry has gone WAY to far with PC"

That is an example of Disney's self censorship, which they are perfectly within their right to do. AS a counterpoint, "The Birth of a Nation" is widely available on DVD. Yes, it is a seminal part of movie history, but the racism displayed in the story makes "Song of the South" look like a Spike Lee film.

[Erik E. Erik]

Originally Posted by Pirate King

A perfect example of political correctness. Disney will never release this wonderful charming film because it may "offend someone". Well if that is the case.. what about "Gone with the Wind?" IMHO the answer to the question is "Yes. The movie industry has gone WAY to far with PC"

I totally agree. A Disney movie that shows slavery in a positive way to children who are unable to critically process a movie or its cultural context is EXACTLY the same as a 4-hour movie made for adults.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Erik E. Erik

I totally agree. A Disney movie that shows slavery in a positive way to children who are unable to critically process a movie or its cultural context is EXACTLY the same as a 4-hour movie made for adults.

There are no slaves in Song of the South. That's 3/4ths of the problem right there -- ignorant people who haven't seem the movie seem to think its about singin' happy slaves, and they have no problem talking down to others about a movie they either haven't seen, or understand.

Song of the South is set in the years after the Civil War. The black farmers are sharecroppers - not slaves. They live in the same improverished South as the poor white sharecroppers, and all the villains in the live action segments are white. It's the story of a white family torn apart by the father's insistence on continuing his "liberal" journalism, making him a target for racists. He moves the family down to his grandmother's home, a former plantation. The father leaves, and his son is all alone. The son makes his only friend in Remus, a free man, who has a gift for storytelling. Through Remus' tales, the boy learns life lessons that help him deal with poor white bullies and his own sense of abandonment. Johnny's mother unfairly blames Remus over the trouble Johnny gets into, and bans Remus from spending anymore time with Johnny. Heartbroken and angry by the treatment of Johnny's mother, Remus decides to leave the farm for parts unknown. Johnny sees Remus leaving, and runs after him, taking a short cut through a pasture. A bull spots him and tramples him. Johnny hovers near death, and the family brings Remus to the boy's bedside to tell him stories and revive him from his coma. The boy recovers, his father returns and vows to never separate his family again. The film ends with Johnny and Remus walking off hand in hand into the sunset.

Wow, what a racist movie. Look at all that indoctrination about "showing slavery in a positive way".

The problem with Song of the South isn't racist *content*, it's the presence of 1940's racial *stereotypes* that have long since gone out of vogue. That's the reason Disney can't release it. Walt thought he was making a film of racial brotherhood (and he was), but he was making the film in 1946, and the presentation of African Americans in the film is simply offensive and out of step with 21st century America.

[Anthony P]

this isn't an example of PC-ness going to far, it's an example of Tim Burton finding a very weird reason to feel bad about something he did years ago that would never ever be taken to mean what he seems to think it could be taken to mean.

1) let's be honest, POA series is all about racial inequalities, struggle and stereotypes, like every good sci-fi series it talks allegorically by placing it in the future the issues of today. And in POA some of the times it was even a bit too overt

2) I can't understand how you can say that someone feeling bad enough to apologize for something that he thinks might be perceived as none-PC (but that in your opinion won't be objectionable by anyone) isn't an example of over the top PC. His guilt is real and it is because of PCness (slighting others) and you imply that because it is way over the top that it is not an example of over the top PC-ness.