List of technical issues on Shout/Scream BDs + Replacement Program information

[neo_reloaded]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

How can a list of facts be over exaggeration?
It's exactly the right amount of exaggeration.

Facts exist in a context, and I wouldn't even argue that this is a list of facts. "Poor compression" is inherently an opinion - a Blu-ray is fundamentally going to have lossy compression of an HD master, and the goal is to create an image that looks good in motion, not something that will be 100% free of any artifacts when examined at 400% zoom via screenshots. Criterion's The Thin Red Line has true compression problems that you can see in motion. Studio Canal's The Fog 4K UHD has true compression problems that you can see in motion. Maybe a very few in this thread rise to that level, but I sure wouldn't know from reading the list because it's full of false alarms.

I subscribed to the thread initially to be kept informed of actual problems that merit replacement discs. Now I receive very regular emails, with messages discussing how a dozen or so new titles have been added, all because someone has asserted that these titles are "poor" because you can find some extra macroblocks on a 400% zoomed-in screenshot than a UK or DE release of the film. The list is thus no longer useful and has actually become an annoyance.

So when someone says "With all these defects, why do people still give them money?", that prompts my answer of "These are not significant defects, these are nitpicks from pedants." People still give Shout money because they release a ton of interesting titles, most at acceptable or good quality, and they usually fix actually significant problems that truly require a replacement disc. Sometimes they really do drop the ball, like the Billy Jack release, but I don't see how such actual ball-dropping even stands out anymore in a silly list with entry after entry of so-called "poor compression."

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

Facts exist in a context, and I wouldn't even argue that this is a list of facts. "Poor compression" is inherently an opinion - a Blu-ray is fundamentally going to have lossy compression of an HD master, and the goal is to create an image that looks good in motion, not something that will be 100% free of any artifacts when examined at 400% zoom via screenshots. Criterion's The Thin Red Line has true compression problems that you can see in motion. Studio Canal's The Fog 4K UHD has true compression problems that you can see in motion. Maybe a very few in this thread rise to that level, but I sure wouldn't know from reading the list because it's full of false alarms.

I subscribed to the thread initially to be kept informed of actual problems that merit replacement discs. Now I receive very regular emails, with messages discussing how a dozen or so new titles have been added, all because someone has asserted that these titles are "poor" because you can find some extra macroblocks on a 400% zoomed-in screenshot than a UK or DE release of the film. The list is thus no longer useful and has actually become an annoyance.

So when someone says "With all these defects, why do people still give them money?", that prompts my answer of "These are not significant defects, these are nitpicks from pedants." People still give Shout money because they release a ton of interesting titles, most at acceptable or good quality, and they usually fix actually significant problems that truly require a replacement disc." Sometimes they really do drop the ball, like the Billy Jack release, but I don't see how such actual ball-dropping even stands out anymore in a silly list with entry after entry of so-called "poor compression."

Speaking of opinions.

[neo_reloaded]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Speaking of opinions.

Yes, this is my opinion. I understand the definition of "opinion" and thus am not bothered or surprised when my opinion is labeled an opinion.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

Yes, this is my opinion. I understand the definition of "opinion" and thus am not bothered or surprised when my opinion is labeled an opinion.

As long as you're aware then I'm good. Anyone else is welcome to maintain these threads. but no one ever volunteers in case you were wondering. In other words, don't look a gift-horse in the mouth.

[RCRochester]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

As long as you're aware then I'm good. Anyone else is welcome to maintain these threads. but no one ever volunteers in case you were wondering. In other words, don't look a gift-horse in the mouth.

Why would people volunteer to maintain the threads that you just created?

As for this specific thread, did you contact JohnCarpenterFan to see if he's still willing and able to update the OP?

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

Why would people volunteer to maintain the threads that you just created?

As for this specific thread, did you contact JohnCarpenterFan to see if he's still willing and able to update the OP?

Probably because it's time consuming.

Yes, there was no response.

[IdeaOfEvil]

If the OP wants to update the Dead Ringer post, Shout just emailed me that they're out of stock of disc 1. There doesn't seem to be a 1:1 ratio of the discs made as they sent me two disc 2's... Weird.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by IdeaOfEvil

If the OP wants to update the Dead Ringer post, Shout just emailed me that they're out of stock of disc 1. There doesn't seem to be a 1:1 ratio of the discs made as they sent me two disc 2's... Weird.

Done. The list is on page 7 BTW.

[JohnCarpenterFan]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Probably because it's time consuming.

Yes, there was no response.

Hmmm. I did check my PMs when I logged in here for the first time in a couple of months and saw nothing from you. I just checked again and I still can't see anything. I did think it was pretty underhanded to attempt to create a new thread based on mine while directly copying and pasting information that I had to find and type out for myself, without even giving credit or at least PMing me. If you tried to reach out to me in a thread, then I'm likely not going to see it these days.

I haven't had much time recently to dig through any real or perceived technical issues. I get a lot of requests to put titles on the list because of certain releases not catering to people's personal tastes, which I'm not going to do because it defeats the purpose of the thread where the intention is to bring attention to actual errors that affect certain discs, not to lambaste a perfectly fine disc since someone has an issue with the colors because they don't match a previous release or because an audio track that was never advertised isn't included.

The issues people are having with recent SF releases are ones that I don't own so I can't see for myself whether there is an issue or not, so in that case the best solution would be to PM me the title affected and explain what's wrong with it along with some evidence to back up the claim to prevent the spreading of misinformation which is abundant on this site.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

Hmmm. I did check my PMs when I logged in here for the first time in a couple of months and saw nothing from you. I just checked again and I still can't see anything. I did think it was pretty underhanded to attempt to create a new thread based on mine while directly copying and pasting information that I had to find and type out for myself, without even giving credit or at least PMing me. If you tried to reach out to me in a thread, then I'm likely not going to see it these days.

I haven't had much time recently to dig through any real or perceived technical issues. I get a lot of requests to put titles on the list because of certain releases not catering to people's personal tastes, which I'm not going to do because it defeats the purpose of the thread where the intention is to bring attention to actual errors that affect certain discs, not to lambaste a perfectly fine disc since someone has an issue with the colors because they don't match a previous release or because an audio track that was never advertised isn't included.

The issues people are having with recent SF releases are ones that I don't own so I can't see for myself whether there is an issue or not, so in that case the best solution would be to PM me the title affected and explain what's wrong with it along with some evidence to back up the claim to prevent the spreading of misinformation which is abundant on this site.

I have had some trouble with my PMs so that's not surprising. If you want to copy/paste my list on page 7 to your OP please feel free to do so. The only reason I wanted to continue the thread is because it has been over a year since you have updated it.

[cck]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

Hmmm. I did check my PMs when I logged in here for the first time in a couple of months...

Just wanted to randomly say I learn a lot from your posts and hope you’ll find time to do more on here.

[andantelise]

I just received my replacement from SC for Drag Me to Hell

[lilboyblu]

Several people have reported in the Village of the Damned thread that there is an echo / flanging effect with the audio at certain points (others say all throughout) in the 5.1 soundtrack. The 2.0 track appears to be unaffected.

[MassiveMovieBuff]

I picked up The Babadook blu ray and I'm shocked I haven't seen anything mentioned about this (not to mention all of the near perfect audio scores on the reviews) but the 5.1 track has a bad reverb echo effect throughout the film. Most prominent in the background sounds. I had to switch to the 2.0 track it was so bad.

[BluProofie]

Originally Posted by MassiveMovieBuff

I picked up The Babadook blu ray and I'm shocked I haven't seen anything mentioned about this (not to mention all of the near perfect audio scores on the reviews) but the 5.1 track has a bad reverb echo effect throughout the film. Most prominent in the background sounds. I had to switch to the 2.0 track it was so bad.

Don’t have that on mine. I rewatched a week ago, too.

[MassiveMovieBuff]

Originally Posted by BluProofie

Don’t have that on mine. I rewatched a week ago, too.

After closer inspection it's hard to tell if the same thing is happening on the 2.0 track (definitely less prominent though) and may be source related. Something sounds "off" with the audio though. It's not on netflix streaming anymore so I can't compare the audio with it from that version unfortunately. There's an "open echo" sound with the sound effects like they're happening in a giant empty room.

[neo_reloaded]

Lost Continent is apparently missing some frames; it relates to a memorable part of the film, so their absence was immediately apparent to a fan of a film. Shout has already confirmed on Facebook that a replacement disc is being created.

https://www.facebook.com/shoutfactor..._edQ&__tn__=-R

"Some of you helpfully pointed out that there were frames missing from our Lost Continent disc. We have fixed the problem and are offering replacement discs. Please email info@shoutfactory.com with any questions regarding Lost Continent."

[horroru]

Just got my shipping notice from Shout/Scream for my LOST CONTINENT replacement disc.
Excellent service and easy to do, kudos to Shout/Scream!

[Marv Inc.]

Can we add the Friday 13th Collection.

[AdmiralNoodles]

Originally Posted by Marv Inc.

Can we add the Friday 13th Collection.

Only certain discs though.