Sony Still Claiming 50 GB Movies by Year End

[zombie]

Only 2 BD50's this year spells doom for Sony unless they change codecs pronto.

[Applefiend]

Ouch! Them apples are rotten.

[vick vega]

What the fug is time to abandon ship?

[JTK]

Originally Posted by vick vega

What the fug is time to abandon ship?

Heavens no.

We keep saying this, and it's true: Let's see how the 4th quarter of this year goes down.

[vick vega]

yeah, but by the time the 4 quarter rolls around it might be too late to return my bdps1 to amazon. I wonder how long I have to return it if the BDA is still dragging their ass.

[zombie]

Originally Posted by vick vega

yeah, but by the time the 4 quarter rolls around it might be too late to return my bdps1 to amazon. I wonder how long I have to return it if the BDA is still dragging their ass.

If you're that concerned then return your player now. If fall turns out to look good for Blu-ray you can always pick up another player, hopefully a better one while you're at it.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by vick vega

yeah, but by the time the 4 quarter rolls around it might be too late to return my bdps1 to amazon. I wonder how long I have to return it if the BDA is still dragging their ass.

Amazon's return and exchange policies should be the same as per usual. They can't start running the clock against you until AFTER the order actually ships.

In other words: You should have 30 days to basically run it through its paces and then get rid of it if you aren't satisfied.

Two questions:

1.) Is it coming from Amazon themselves or are they playing middleman for Crutchfield, Vanns, or some other place like that?

2.) Double check the fine print to insure there are no exceptions on the usual Amazon return and exchange policy.

[Gamekid]

You know with any kind of new product out on the market, it'll be bad. I mean, the first blu-ray movies that came out were not any better then on standard DVD, but that doesn't mean that blu-ray will fail. Have a little faith in blu-ray, it will improve. Things only improve as time goes on, it doesn't get worse.

[takezo]

BD 50 will be out, it's not a matter of if, but when. I will say it once and I will say it again, eairly adopter always get screwed over. If you feel screwed over Blu-Ray, then it's your fault for being to impulsive. Sony's Blu-Ray player has not come out yet.

Blu-Ray has more player manufactures than HD-DVD. Pioneer, Panasonic, Sony, Sharp, Mitsubishi, Lite-on, Samsung.

HD-DVD only has Toshiba, RCA (Toshiba in a different box), Lite-on.

Blu-ray has better studio support. Sony pictures is obviously Blu-Ray exclusive. The only studio that is exclusive to HD-DVD is Universal. Everything else is neutral.

PS3 will make 2 million Blu-Ray users seemingly overnight. When that happens, they will buy Blu-Ray media. HD-DVD's fate relies on the failure of PS3, and must strike first with a budget player within the next fiscal year. This is the only way to really trump Sony's technically superior format.

2 Million units is not much. The PS3 will easily sell out this november, primarily as a game system, not so much as a Blu-ray player. The magic of the PS3 is that lowtech gamers with SDTVs that buy PS3 will be tempted to try BLu-Ray movies unknowing the diffrence, other than Blu-Ray is suposedly better than DVD Tha's why PS3 is an important Trojan Horse for Blu-ray media. One that should not be ignored.

November of 2007, there will be a winner to the format war.

[phloyd]

Originally Posted by nyg

Only 2 BD50's this year spells doom for Sony unless they change codecs pronto.

Not really.

Disney and Fox are gonna have much more influence on how this plays out.

Well, maybe doom for Sony but not doom for BDA.

The WB VC-1 will give people a real choice of formats. Assuming that Disney, Paramount and Fox are going to use advanced codecs also it should not be too long before the Sony MPEG2 discs are not the majority.

[zombie]

Like I said, doom for Sony.

[suprmallet]

Even with advanced codecs for PQ, the Warner discs may still not have any advanced audio codecs, since it's not mandatory in the BD spec.

[AV_Integrated]

We can only hope that audio finds some standard stable ground to settle upon. I would think that all BD players at some point will allow any and all HD audio formats to transfer over HDMI to receivers at the very least, but many may (hopefully) have full 7.1 analog outputs to decode ALL advanced audio codecs internally. We can only hope.

[phloyd]

Originally Posted by suprmallet

Even with advanced codecs for PQ, the Warner discs may still not have any advanced audio codecs, since it's not mandatory in the BD spec.

Sure - once the pictures look the same, people will look to audio and extras as differentiators.

[georgir]

just like the first few movies already use PCM, i dont see a need to switch to anything else. lossless compressions are better than pcm i guess, but still not needed given the plenty of available space. anything else is a step back.

plus, you don't need any fancy processing if the audio is already stored uncompressed.

i say, down with dolby-molby!

[ProvenFlipper]

Originally Posted by georgir

just like the first few movies already use PCM, i dont see a need to switch to anything else. lossless compressions are better than pcm i guess, but still not needed given the plenty of available space. anything else is a step back.

plus, you don't need any fancy processing if the audio is already stored uncompressed.

i say, down with dolby-molby!

Yes, but LPCM takes up huge amounts of space that could be used for interactivity and HD extras. Why use uncompressed audio, when lossless compression methods are available.

I feel that the reason advanced audio codecs aren't being used on Blu-ray yet is due to the laziness of the studios and lack of BD-50. They may feel that since the only player on the market is in capable of decoding Dolby TruHD or DTS-HD then they should include it, when in actuality there are players on the horizon that will process this information, as well as recievers coming soon that will perform the task as well.