James Bond: The Ultimate Collection (1962-2012) + Volume Collections - Page 158 - Blu-ray Forum

Markgway · 08-21-2019, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Platitude

Next Bond movie title revealed to be 'No Time To Die', very old school feeling.

Yawn. What an unimaginative title.

Markgway · 08-21-2019, 12:55 AM

Licence to Kill is my favourite Bond film.

You may now all click the thumbs up button.

Monterey Jack · 08-21-2019, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GuruAskew

That’s the BS answer they give to save face. LTK flops and years later they come out with a real Hollywood budget, new producers, new director, new writers and new star. I guarantee you they wouldn’t have had those convenient excuses if LTK was successful.

It cost $32 million and grossed $156 million worldwide. Yeah, total floparoonie…!

GuruAskew · 08-21-2019, 02:00 AM

It’s the lowest-grossing movie in the series if you adjust for inflation. Unadjusted only TMWTGG (which beats it adjusted) OHMSS (the dreaded Lazenby) and the first two pre-“Bond Phenomenon” movies did worse.

But hey, you can pretend it wasn’t a massive disappointment at the box office if you want. Nobody can stop you.

Monterey Jack · 08-21-2019, 02:05 AM

If I movie makes FIVE TIMES what it cost to make, that's a profit.

GuruAskew · 08-21-2019, 02:14 AM

Not necessarily. There are expenses like marketing. They have to split the gross with the theaters too. You factor all that in and it isn’t even worth your time making the movie.

They get less from the international gross than the domestic gross too. They certainly didn’t met $120 million or whatever.

Dailyan · 08-21-2019, 02:52 AM

Mikezilla3k · 08-21-2019, 03:31 AM

So, since I'm a noob with James Bond films, which ones should I start with?

Dailyan · 08-21-2019, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikezilla3k

So, since I'm a noob with James Bond films, which ones should I start with?

I'd go to the beginning with "Dr. No" and watch them in release order.

svenge · 08-21-2019, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Pez

Why do some bond films get left out of the box sets ?

The box sets only include films produced by Eon Productions. For example, Never Say Never Again and Casino Royale (1967) were produced by other companies and thus aren't included.

Jacques Souvenir · 08-21-2019, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by svenge

The box sets only include films produced by Eon Productions. For example, Never Say Never Again and Casino Royale (1967) were produced by other companies and thus aren't included.

Plus, they're not official Bond films.

GuruAskew · 08-21-2019, 05:12 AM

They’re official Bond films. They all had the legal rights to make the Bond films (or television episode) they made. They aren’t part of the EON film series.

chriszilla · 08-21-2019, 05:56 AM

If you believe that A VIEW TO A KILL, which grossed over 50 million dollars, and THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS, which grossed over 51 million dollars, made no profits, that's your right. The history of movie studios' accounting records are full of all sorts of fiction about films "showing no profits". (Adjusted for inflation, AVTAK's gross would be nearly 128 million dollars).

Did the Dalton films do as well at the box office as the producers would have liked? No. Did they "bomb"?. No, they did not. Just like the many accounts in the old days of OHMSS "bombing" are also not accurate. There's a difference between performing below expectations, and losing money.

But if it makes you feel better to believe what you want, please don't let us stop you...

GuruAskew · 08-21-2019, 06:06 AM

We’re not talking about Forrest Gump here. We’re talking about movies with dwindling budgets and dwindling audiences to match. After AVTaK, TLD and LFK they weren’t trying to screw some producer out of some money he was owed, they were making movies that were pulling in less money than they were costing to make. Again: the box office is there for everyone to see. The budgets are. You can see where the movies stand among their contemporaries and you can see them fall down that top-20 list, particularly LTK. We know how much the theaters get vs. the studio. We know how much advertising costs. It’s not only plausible that they lost money, it’s probable. It’s probable to the point that disagreeing is being willfully ignorant.

chriszilla · 08-21-2019, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GuruAskew

We’re not talking about Forrest Gump here. We’re talking about movies with dwindling budgets and dwindling audiences to match. After AVTaK, TLD and LFK they weren’t trying to screw some producer out of some money he was owed, they were making movies that were pulling in less money than they were costing to make. Again: the box office is there for everyone to see. The budgets are. You can see where the movies stand among their contemporaries and you can see them fall down that top-20 list, particularly LTK. We know how much the theaters get vs. the studio. We know how much advertising costs. It’s not only plausible that they lost money, it’s probable. It’s probable to the point that disagreeing is being willfully ignorant.

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/f...nd#tab=summary

Markgway · 08-21-2019, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GuruAskew

They’re official Bond films. They all had the legal rights to make the Bond films (or television episode) they made. They aren’t part of the EON film series.

OK, now you're trolling...

SymbioticFunction · 08-21-2019, 01:34 PM

Sometimes I think about buying the original Casino Royale on blu-ray. Then I come to my senses.

Dailyan · 08-21-2019, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

Sometimes I think about buying the original Casino Royale on blu-ray. Then I come to my senses.

I still will pick it up, one of these days, because of the Bond completionist inside of me.

Galactus123 · 08-21-2019, 01:43 PM

I watched Tomorrow Never Dies yesterday and it was good. A lot better than I remembered. I liked it more than GoldenEye. It was fun and Brosnan was great. I will watch The World Is Not Enough today. I don't remember it being very good but the theme song by Garbage is great.

SymbioticFunction · 08-21-2019, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus123

I watched Tomorrow Never Dies yesterday and it was good. A lot better than I remembered. I liked it more than GoldenEye. It was fun and Brosnan was great. I will watch The World Is Not Enough today. I don't remember it being very good but the theme song by Garbage is great.

I think Tomorrow Never Dies is the best Pierce Brosnan film. And TWINE, in it's defence, does have an incredible (and lengthy) opening sequence.

08-21-2019, 12:55 AM	#3142
Markgway Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2013 Location:Scotland Trading Score:13	Licence to Kill is my favourite Bond film. You may now all click the thumbs up button.

08-21-2019, 02:00 AM	#3144
GuruAskew Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2010 Blu-ray collection:393	It’s the lowest-grossing movie in the series if you adjust for inflation. Unadjusted only TMWTGG (which beats it adjusted) OHMSS (the dreaded Lazenby) and the first two pre-“Bond Phenomenon” movies did worse. But hey, you can pretend it wasn’t a massive disappointment at the box office if you want. Nobody can stop you.

08-21-2019, 02:05 AM	#3145
Monterey Jack Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Oct 2011 Trading Score:710	If I movie makes FIVE TIMES what it cost to make, that's a profit.

08-21-2019, 02:14 AM	#3146
GuruAskew Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2010 Blu-ray collection:393	Not necessarily. There are expenses like marketing. They have to split the gross with the theaters too. You factor all that in and it isn’t even worth your time making the movie. They get less from the international gross than the domestic gross too. They certainly didn’t met $120 million or whatever.

08-21-2019, 02:52 AM	#3147
Dailyan Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Feb 2015 Location:Beyond the Blue Horizon 4K collection:198 Blu-ray collection:2251 DVD collection:197 Blu-ray reviews: 58 Trading Score:56

08-21-2019, 03:31 AM	#3148
Mikezilla3k Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Feb 2019 Location:Richmond, CA 4K collection:19 Blu-ray collection:268 DVD collection:305 MA collection:56 Digital collection:19 Trading Score:2	So, since I'm a noob with James Bond films, which ones should I start with?

08-21-2019, 05:12 AM	#3152
GuruAskew Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2010 Blu-ray collection:393	They’re official Bond films. They all had the legal rights to make the Bond films (or television episode) they made. They aren’t part of the EON film series.

08-21-2019, 05:56 AM	#3153
chriszilla Special Member Member since:Oct 2010 Location:Northern California	If you believe that A VIEW TO A KILL, which grossed over 50 million dollars, and THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS, which grossed over 51 million dollars, made no profits, that's your right. The history of movie studios' accounting records are full of all sorts of fiction about films "showing no profits". (Adjusted for inflation, AVTAK's gross would be nearly 128 million dollars). Did the Dalton films do as well at the box office as the producers would have liked? No. Did they "bomb"?. No, they did not. Just like the many accounts in the old days of OHMSS "bombing" are also not accurate. There's a difference between performing below expectations, and losing money. But if it makes you feel better to believe what you want, please don't let us stop you...

08-21-2019, 06:06 AM	#3154
GuruAskew Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2010 Blu-ray collection:393	We’re not talking about Forrest Gump here. We’re talking about movies with dwindling budgets and dwindling audiences to match. After AVTaK, TLD and LFK they weren’t trying to screw some producer out of some money he was owed, they were making movies that were pulling in less money than they were costing to make. Again: the box office is there for everyone to see. The budgets are. You can see where the movies stand among their contemporaries and you can see them fall down that top-20 list, particularly LTK. We know how much the theaters get vs. the studio. We know how much advertising costs. It’s not only plausible that they lost money, it’s probable. It’s probable to the point that disagreeing is being willfully ignorant.

08-21-2019, 01:34 PM	#3157
SymbioticFunction Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Chichester, UK 4K collection:153 Blu-ray collection:994 DVD collection:121 Prime collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:2	Sometimes I think about buying the original Casino Royale on blu-ray. Then I come to my senses.

08-21-2019, 01:43 PM	#3159
Galactus123 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2014 Location:Finland Blu-ray collection:174	I watched Tomorrow Never Dies yesterday and it was good. A lot better than I remembered. I liked it more than GoldenEye. It was fun and Brosnan was great. I will watch The World Is Not Enough today. I don't remember it being very good but the theme song by Garbage is great.

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