4K Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads

[Cherokee Jack]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

I think I've only seen Ghostbusters 1. At least from the list in the OP.

It looks great though.

You should definitely check out The Natural and Christine if you liked what Sony did with Ghostbusters I. Both look fantastic and The Natural's main audio track is incredibly immersive.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by brainofj72

Has it been discussed that there hasn’t been a single Fox catalog 4K announced since Disney took over? Kinda feels like our fears might be coming true. There’s also been talk from theater operators on Twitter that Disney has put a stop to repertory theatrical screenings of Fox titles.

The same Fox that was cranking out catalogue titles like nobody's business? Oh, wait...

[gooseygander2001]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The same Fox that was cranking out catalogue titles like nobody's business? Oh, wait...

Give me HEAT in 4k godammit Disney/Fox/whoever you are!

[avs commenter]

Originally Posted by avs commenter

'Dolby Vision is a variant of HDR and as such, it adds a layer of dynamic metadata to the core HDR signal. This dynamic metadata carries scene-by-scene (or in some cases frame-by-frame) instructions from content creators on how a TV should present the images it’s receiving. That improves everything from brightness to contrast, detailing and colour reproduction.'

Are there any known examples of this where a scene looks noticeably different in DV compared to HDR10?

Was able to answer my own question, to a degree anyway. I don't own many DV discs, but I noticed a fairly noticeable difference with Jurassic World 2 when turning DV on vs HDR10. I posted a pic the film's thread. It had easily the biggest difference between the formats I've seen on my setup.

[brainofj72]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The same Fox that was cranking out catalogue titles like nobody's business? Oh, wait...

Die Hard, Alien, Predator, X-Men... not saying they were “cranking them out” but they were happening. It’s now been many months of radio silence.

[Geoff D]

Die Hard was 15 months ago, and even then only the first film. X-Men original trilogy was 11 months ago. Predator trilogy was 12 months ago. Alien's the only one from this calendar year and, as with Die Hard, wasn't even all the films but just the first one.

You'll forgive me if I don't think that we're missing out on a hell of a lot here, Fox have been slowing up on UHD for a while. If anything I think Disnee's newfound zeal for 4K UHD disc might actually be a GOOD thing now as they're going to want to exploit dat Fox catalogue while they still can, but even so that's not going to happen overnight as they take stock (literally) of what they've got and decide what to do with it.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Die Hard was 15 months ago, and even then only the first film. X-Men original trilogy was 11 months ago. Predator trilogy was 12 months ago. Alien's the only one from this calendar year and, as with Die Hard, wasn't even all the films but just the first one.

You'll forgive me if I don't think that we're missing out on a hell of a lot here, Fox have been slowing up on UHD for a while. If anything I think Disnee's newfound zeal for 4K UHD disc might actually be a GOOD thing now as they're going to want to exploit dat Fox catalogue while they still can, but even so that's not going to happen overnight as they take stock (literally) of what they've got and decide what to do with it.

I have far less faith than you. Fox 4k catalog titles, through Disney, have pretty much dried up since an earlier round of them BEFORE The Mouse got its mits on Fox. You know how Disney is about live action catalog titles and disc... pretty damn dismal.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

I have far less faith than you. Fox 4k catalog titles, through Disney, have pretty much dried up since an earlier round of them BEFORE The Mouse got its mits on Fox. You know how Disney is about live action catalog titles and disc... pretty damn dismal.

That's Fox in general, even before the Mouse started sniffing around they were getting quite heavily into the licensing-catalogue-stuff-to-indies model and as such that doesn't really apply to UHD because the indies aren't doing it, honourable exceptions like Kino aside (but even then, they're not releasing everything they can onto 4K because it's still an expensive endeavour).

Normally I'd be just as scathing as you w/ref to the Mouse, I've moaned about them loads of times before - except now they're dumping the MCU and almost their entire Pixar line up onto 4K disc before the end of the year, as well as putting out long-awaited catalogue faves like 20k Leagues and Black Hole onto BD (albeit via that Disney Club thingy). I dunno about "faith", note that I did say it "might actually be a GOOD thing" so I'm not entirely convinced myself, but if you aksed me a year ago if I thought all the MCU and almost all of Pixar would be out on Disnee UHD by this time next year I'd have looked at you like you were Bonkers "Crazy" McLooneyman from Insanetown.

We know that Disnee are already throwing around ideas of how best to exploit all the classic FOx franchises that they've just inherited, and as far as making a quick buck goes then getting some of those franchises out onto 4K disc in their entirety isn't the worst idea in the world.

[mackiedog]

I bet the bungling of Planet of the Apes 1968 -73 series of films in 4k hdr for the 50th anniversary was partly because of the Fox/Disney merger last year.
From what I know they were all done from new elements found and even shown in Manhattan in August 2018.
The new CDs from LaLa Land are magnificent sounding and onehopes these audio stems were used on new 4k discs if true.
Very disappointing who ever is in charge. Us original Apesfans are a dying breed.
Lets go! Please. John M

[Geoff D]

I think Fox were definitely in a "holding pattern" re: their UHD expenditure because of how protracted the takeover was, but even before that they were starting to shift away from catalogue releases in general.

[bradnoyes]

I know there are dedicated audio forums where I could ask something like this but I'm more familiar with folks here and also I don't need advice from people who are watching anything other than UHDs on their home theaters, so here goes:

Hypothetically speaking, of course, let's say you suddenly and unexpectedly had about $2000-2500 to spend on a new audio system. Keep in mind that in this hypothetical scenario you do not have a dedicated theater room, but instead have a rather oddly shaped living room that isn't exactly ideal from an acoustics perspective. In this completely theoretical-and-in-no-way-my-own-current-situation scenario, what might you do to maximize your returns?

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by bradnoyes

I know there are dedicated audio forums where I could ask something like this but I'm more familiar with folks here and also I don't need advice from people who are watching anything other than UHDs on their home theaters, so here goes:

Hypothetically speaking, of course, let's say you suddenly and unexpectedly had about $2000-2500 to spend on a new audio system. Keep in mind that in this hypothetical scenario you do not have a dedicated theater room, but instead have a rather oddly shaped living room that isn't exactly ideal from an acoustics perspective. In this completely theoretical-and-in-no-way-my-own-current-situation scenario, what might you do to maximize your returns?

Too vague of an explanation. We need pictures or at least a diagram and room dimensions to determine the best opinions for options on the subject. Even if it's a hypothetical. Otherwise the sky's the limit on various equipment choices. Gotta be able to narrow things down.

When you state "audio system" do you mean money for speakers, at least one decent sub, and a surround processor? Atmos too? Or does this budget scenario include TV and disc player as well?

2,500 bucks will get you started on the right path, but probably not everything all at once.

[bradnoyes]

In this hypothetical scenario we would be looking at speakers, a sub, and a receiver. Atmos is a plus but not a must, especially since installing ceiling speakers is not part of this theoretical situation. Here are pics of the conjectural space:

[Show spoiler]The TV will either be backed into this corner or along the wall just to the right of the smaller window:


A better shot of the wall and here you get an idea of how open the space is:


Here we're basically looking out from where the TV would be placed, and again, you see how open everything is:


And finally, this is the back "wall" that would be behind the viewers:

Not ideal, but it is what it is.

[nick4Knight]

If I had a "hypothetical" odd shaped room as well? I would personally spend 500 on a headphone amp and 2000 on the best pair of open-back audiophile headphones I could. Something that can dig to 10Hz in a pleasing manner. A pair tauted as great for lossless BD/4K tracks, but not necesarily made for such use (like a "surround" set of cans)

Then you can listen to audiophile music and enjoy 4K ultra HD tracks without your room getting in the way of either experience, thus maximizing use of that kind of money.

[Liquid_Swords]

Ok. Stupid question. so you think that it's technically a waste of time to buy regular blurays because in the back of my mind the uhd will come? Sooner or later? We won't see as many movies on uhd and we will regular bluray?

I'm mainly a fan of older movies.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Liquid_Swords

Ok. Stupid question. so you think that it's technically a waste of time to buy regular blurays because in the back of my mind the uhd will come? Sooner or later? We won't see as many movies on uhd and we will regular bluray?

I'm mainly a fan of older movies.

Smaller, less well known, and obscure films may never make it to 4k Blu-ray. The big ones definitely are the better bet for 4k like The Wizard of Oz (coming), It's A Wonderful Life (coming), The Bridge on the River Kwai (already out), Lawrence of Arabia (coming), 2001 (already out), Close Encounters of the Third Kind (already out), The Shining (coming), etc.



Buy those for sure and support the classics!

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by bradnoyes

In this hypothetical scenario we would be looking at speakers, a sub, and a receiver. Atmos is a plus but not a must, especially since installing ceiling speakers is not part of this theoretical situation. Here are pics of the conjectural space:

[Show spoiler]The TV will either be backed into this corner or along the wall just to the right of the smaller window:


A better shot of the wall and here you get an idea of how open the space is:


Here we're basically looking out from where the TV would be placed, and again, you see how open everything is:


And finally, this is the back "wall" that would be behind the viewers:

Not ideal, but it is what it is.

It can be done. A 5.1.4 system is very much a possibility. You can use Front and Rear Height speakers up at the wall/ceiling juncture if ceiling speakers cannot be installed.



Place the side surrounds on or in the rear wall where the foyer bench is located at just above seated head height.



Set the TV and left, center, right speakers plus the subwoofer at least partially in front of the smaller living room window (don't use the window as a visual cue where you end up shifting everything out of balance compared to the couch - just place the system where it needs to go and NOT in the corner!!). Use tower speakers for the left and right as you will get much better mid bass reproduction even with a subwoofer and they take up the same real estate as bookshelves and stands.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by bradnoyes

In this hypothetical scenario we would be looking at speakers, a sub, and a receiver. Atmos is a plus but not a must, especially since installing ceiling speakers is not part of this theoretical situation. Here are pics of the conjectural space:

[Show spoiler]The TV will either be backed into this corner or along the wall just to the right of the smaller window:


A better shot of the wall and here you get an idea of how open the space is:


Here we're basically looking out from where the TV would be placed, and again, you see how open everything is:


And finally, this is the back "wall" that would be behind the viewers:

Not ideal, but it is what it is.

Here's a system that will work great... add the subwoofer a little later. It's best not to try and cram everything in one fell swoop if you can't afford it all at once as you will end up with less than ideal performance.



SVS Prime Bookshelf Surround System (five speakers) with four Prime Elevation Height speakers... $1,810
(the bookshelves in this package are a bit bigger than average, so they would work really well once coupled with a subwoofer).



Pioneer VSX-LX503 Dolby Atmos/DTS: X receiver with up to 7.2.4 processing... $550 via Huppins Electronics through Amazon.


I would have recommended the Emotiva Airmotiv speakers as they are amazing for the price, but they are mainly 4 ohm speakers, which would more than likely require the purchase of an outboard power amplifier.

[Nothing371]

Originally Posted by bradnoyes

I know there are dedicated audio forums where I could ask something like this but I'm more familiar with folks here and also I don't need advice from people who are watching anything other than UHDs on their home theaters, so here goes:

Hypothetically speaking, of course, let's say you suddenly and unexpectedly had about $2000-2500 to spend on a new audio system. Keep in mind that in this hypothetical scenario you do not have a dedicated theater room, but instead have a rather oddly shaped living room that isn't exactly ideal from an acoustics perspective. In this completely theoretical-and-in-no-way-my-own-current-situation scenario, what might you do to maximize your returns?

I'd buy an ounce and assemble another new computer with a brand new Ryzen 3900x. While listening to my TV speakers because that extra $100-200 was money well spent.

[Gold Ranger]

I have a TCL series 5 tv.
It has dolby vision.
I'm finally getting a dolby vision player, but i'm not sure what the proper hdmi cable is that i need to get, any one care to help?
Thanks in advance.