Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!: The Complete Series (1969-1978) - Page 25 - Blu-ray Forum

Spidey Blu · 09-04-2019, 04:52 PM

Wow, a lot of negativity going on in here. Honestly my eyesight is so poor I don't even notice the DNR. But I am totally onboard with this release in the hope that Warner will start supporting Scooby on Blu-ray again. I would love to see What's New Scooby-Doo, Mystery Inc, and Zombie island all get Blu-rays(Zombie Island's animation alone is begging for a remaster).

If we ever get the remaining Scooby-Doo Show episodes on Blu, hopefully they include the right eps they left off of the DVDd for some reason.

TravisTylerBlack · 09-04-2019, 05:00 PM

People comparing this to "Sword In The Stone" should really take another look at that monstrosity of a transfer to gain some perspective.

What I'm seeing here is overzealous grain management and some color brightening (much akin to Batman TAS) that should come as a surprise to absolutely no one. What I don't see is a noticeable loss of fine detail or hideously smeared line work in any of the provided caps.

Absolutely not defending the use of DNR here but it still appears to be nice presentation of a series that was never meant to be seen at such a high resolution.

You also won't catch me paying anywhere near the current price point for 4 low-bitrate disc inside a fancy box.

Member-425016 · 09-04-2019, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by YogiYahooeys

I actually agree that the DNR was way, way overdone.

It isn't at all. The information in the video is all there. Fine detail is still in the video.

Color is punchy, and pleasing. I just watched three episodes, and I can honestly say this is a witch hunt for the sake of hunting. Watch a full episode from the disc, and then make your judgement. Don't judge something on a freaking screen cap.

Member-425016 · 09-04-2019, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spidey Blu

Honestly my eyesight is so poor I don't even notice the DNR.

Your eyesight is fine DNR if it was applied was used very, very sparingly.
The fine detail, and brush strokes are still very visible. So are the problematic elements of the source material.

I'm guessing it is the punchy, robust color that is throwing people into a tailspin.

TravisTylerBlack · 09-04-2019, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Filmfan73

It isn't at all. The information in the video is all there. Fine detail is still in the video.

Color is punchy, and pleasing. I just watched three episodes, and I can honestly say this is a witch hunt for the sake of hunting. Watch a full episode from the disc, and then make your judgement. Don't judge something on a freaking screen cap.

Even as self-proclaimed film grain evangelist, I can still objectively see when DNR has been applied with extreme care to animation as opposed to a few of the irreverent rush jobs Disney has issued in the last decade.

We're not missing any of the actual picture information or detail here except for the grain itself. That's kind of impressive in a weird way.

Admittedly the show now looks too sharp and too clear without the grain layer acting as an organic "buffer" of sorts. I'm sure the original animators would be slightly horrified to see this under the scrutiny of a 65" 4K display.

Kyle15 · 09-04-2019, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Filmfan73

Your eyesight is fine DNR if it was applied was used very, very sparingly.
The fine detail, and brush strokes are still very visible. So are the problematic elements of the source material.

I'm guessing it is the punchy, robust color that is throwing people into a tailspin.

Ashamed Pegasus · 09-04-2019, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MifuneFan

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Okay so someone please explain to me what my eyes are obviously not seeing, because I keep reading that the Blu-ray looks inferior compared to the digitals, but in those screen shots I'm seeing the exact opposite.

Kyle15 · 09-04-2019, 05:47 PM

"it wasn't supposed to be HD to begin with"
"the animation is bad anyway who cares?"
"it's old"
"lol you don't watch Scooby Doo for how it looks"
"it's just brighter now and that makes you think it looks over filtered"
"back in my day we had to rig our bunny ears 12 feet out our window to even see it without a little snow"

how y'all look rn trying to justify ur purchase when you really don't have to

GeoffOliver · 09-04-2019, 05:52 PM

There’s definitely less grain in the BD image, although it’s not completely wiped clean. It’s still clearly visible on the green statue. The screen caps on the site look pretty decent overall, if still not perfect. This show will never be released to Blu-ray ever again, but I still don’t feel like I’m settling on something bad like other releases in my collection.

It’s all subjective. If you’re okay with buying this release, cool. If you’re not, that’s also fine.

Member-425016 · 09-04-2019, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashamed Pegasus

Okay so someone please explain to me what my eyes are obviously not seeing, because I keep reading that the Blu-ray looks inferior compared to the digitals, but in those screen shots I'm seeing the exact opposite.

Not inferior. Superior.

Member-425016 · 09-04-2019, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GeoffOliver

There’s definitely less grain in the BD image, although it’s not completely wiped clean. It’s still clearly visible on the green statue. The screen caps on the site look pretty decent overall, if still not perfect. This show will never be released to Blu-ray ever again, but I still don’t feel like I’m settling on something bad like other releases in my collection.

It’s all subjective. If you’re okay with buying this release, cool. If you’re not, that’s also fine.

Bingo!

TravisTylerBlack · 09-04-2019, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle15

how y'all look rn trying to justify ur purchase when you really don't have to

Haven't purchased this. Just judging the image objectively despite my personal preference for intact grain. The fine detail is preserved so this new release is entirely down to aesthetic preference.

dukiejosh54 · 09-04-2019, 06:10 PM

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how y'all look rn trying to justify ur purchase when you really don't have to

No i think that's more like certain people searching for anything they can ***** about in this release. even things that aren't even an issue. I am to busy enjoying my purchase to care about justifying the reason i bought it.

YogiYahooeys · 09-04-2019, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Filmfan73

It isn't at all. The information in the video is all there. Fine detail is still in the video.

Color is punchy, and pleasing. I just watched three episodes, and I can honestly say this is a witch hunt for the sake of hunting. Watch a full episode from the disc, and then make your judgement. Don't judge something on a freaking screen cap.

I clearly stated that I was only doing exactly that. I'll have my replacement soon enough and be able to judge for myself, that said it does seem clear as day in the screenshots.

I'm not trying to tell people what they can or cannot see or enjoy and appreciate. Just making an observation based on the evidence available to me at this moment.

Edit: all that said, I find it exceedingly cool that Scooby Doo, of all things, can stir up so much passion in people.

Jar Jar Stinks · 09-04-2019, 06:51 PM

Are the new BDs a big improvement over the DVDs?

hariseldon · 09-04-2019, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks

Are the new BDs a big improvement over the DVDs?

Would you prefer the opinions of the people who have seen the discs or those who haven't?

Jar Jar Stinks · 09-04-2019, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hariseldon

Would you prefer the opinions of the people who have seen the discs or those who haven't?

Only from the ones who haven't. They seem to have the strongest opinions.

sandman slim · 09-04-2019, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by YogiYahooeys

Got my order in yesterday and it predictably arrived in an oversized bubble envelope and was also predictably damaged with the plastic case cracked on top.

I contacted Amazon and they're sending a replacement and told me to keep the damaged item.

Keep any emails about that. Last few times they told me to keep the damaged item, about a month later I got billed for it again "because you failed to return the damaged item". The Amazon is tricksy...

YogiYahooeys · 09-04-2019, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman slim

Keep any emails about that. Last few times they told me to keep the damaged item, about a month later I got billed for it again "because you failed to return the damaged item". The Amazon is tricksy...

Excellent point. I performed my return over the phone and the follow-up email that the rep sent to me did not mention the lack of need to return. I am asking for confirmation in a response right now.

beanpole.b · 09-04-2019, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks

Are the new BDs a big improvement over the DVDs?

PAL R2 DVD:

[Show spoiler]

Blu-Ray (from Review):

[Show spoiler]

09-04-2019, 04:52 PM	#481
Spidey Blu Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2009 4K collection:18 Blu-ray collection:250 DVD collection:247 Trading Score:63	Wow, a lot of negativity going on in here. Honestly my eyesight is so poor I don't even notice the DNR. But I am totally onboard with this release in the hope that Warner will start supporting Scooby on Blu-ray again. I would love to see What's New Scooby-Doo, Mystery Inc, and Zombie island all get Blu-rays(Zombie Island's animation alone is begging for a remaster). If we ever get the remaining Scooby-Doo Show episodes on Blu, hopefully they include the right eps they left off of the DVDd for some reason.

09-04-2019, 05:00 PM	#482
TravisTylerBlack Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2014 Location:Los Angeles, CA 4K collection:508 Blu-ray collection:3302	People comparing this to "Sword In The Stone" should really take another look at that monstrosity of a transfer to gain some perspective. What I'm seeing here is overzealous grain management and some color brightening (much akin to Batman TAS) that should come as a surprise to absolutely no one. What I don't see is a noticeable loss of fine detail or hideously smeared line work in any of the provided caps. Absolutely not defending the use of DNR here but it still appears to be nice presentation of a series that was never meant to be seen at such a high resolution. You also won't catch me paying anywhere near the current price point for 4 low-bitrate disc inside a fancy box.

09-04-2019, 05:47 PM	#488
Kyle15 Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2011 Location:Alabama 4K collection:153 Blu-ray collection:395 DVD collection:8 Trading Score:5	"it wasn't supposed to be HD to begin with" "the animation is bad anyway who cares?" "it's old" "lol you don't watch Scooby Doo for how it looks" "it's just brighter now and that makes you think it looks over filtered" "back in my day we had to rig our bunny ears 12 feet out our window to even see it without a little snow" how y'all look rn trying to justify ur purchase when you really don't have to

09-04-2019, 05:52 PM	#489
GeoffOliver Blu-ray Knight Member since:Sep 2014 Location:Atlanta GA 4K collection:260 Blu-ray collection:1523 DVD collection:332	There’s definitely less grain in the BD image, although it’s not completely wiped clean. It’s still clearly visible on the green statue. The screen caps on the site look pretty decent overall, if still not perfect. This show will never be released to Blu-ray ever again, but I still don’t feel like I’m settling on something bad like other releases in my collection. It’s all subjective. If you’re okay with buying this release, cool. If you’re not, that’s also fine.

09-04-2019, 06:51 PM	#495
Jar Jar Stinks Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Aug 2011 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- Trading Score:246	Are the new BDs a big improvement over the DVDs?

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