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Old 09-07-2019, 11:30 PM   #17621
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I think it is safe to say that we ALL enjoy watching movies and TV shows.

You think streaming is fantastic and that's all fine and dandy for you, but you also have no reference frame for comparison. You do not own a 4K disc player and you have not seen any 4K discs in action, so you are in no position to comment upon the quality difference between 4K discs and 4k streaming.

We already have streaming specs; many of our members have already shown them to you several times with multiple supporting links. You just ignore them because you don't like what they objectively show to be true.

The streaming providers each publish their "guidelines" for viewing their content; they have always done so.

Streaming needs to improve their video and audio quality and offer real ownership if they want to even attempt "to win over the Disc people." That means using less compression and offering lossless audio for starters. They need to offer 1:1 disc quality downloads without DRM for their digital purchases. They need to improve their selection also as many of their so-called original series are just awful.

This "disc person" uses streaming already, so I do not exactly need to be "won over." I use it to sample and rent content, but I will never purchase digital content in its current form as it conveys no actual ownership and no control over the content. No amount of improvements in A/V quality alone addresses that ownership issue, so digital remains a "no sale" with me.
I would say film is my life and has been since I was a little boy. Just as some couldnít live without dance, music, books or theatre, I couldnít cope without films. Itís that simple.
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Old 09-08-2019, 03:39 AM   #17622
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have you been to a record shop lately? you will find more people that are younger then CD then people that are older. Personally I don't want anyone talking while I am watching a film so voice control will never be part of my HT
https://uproxx.com/music/vinyl-recor...beat-cd-sales/
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Old 09-08-2019, 04:44 AM   #17623
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Remember kiddies that the best way to clean and protect your vinyl is with....



Your stylus will glide effortlessly across your albums! Less friction= longer life!

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Old 09-08-2019, 05:01 AM   #17624
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I would say film is my life and has been since I was a little boy. Just as some couldn’t live without dance, music, books or theatre, I couldn’t cope without films. It’s that simple.
Another great reason to buy movies on physical media; doing so prolongs Steedeel's life! Do your part everyone, buy a blu-ray or a 4K disc NOW!
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Old 09-08-2019, 09:28 AM   #17625
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Another great reason to buy movies on physical media; doing so prolongs Steedeel's life! Do your part everyone, buy a blu-ray or a 4K disc NOW!
Donít tell them that, even the hardcore collectors will switch to digital now!
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Old 09-08-2019, 02:19 PM   #17626
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We need some Streaming Specs and Guidelines, if they want to win over the Disc people.
You really think Netflix cares how Disney✛ will do their streaming or Amazon cares how VUDU does theirs, if you do do then I have this big bridge I will sell you on the cheap!!

Streaming is a CF when it comes to what hardware is needed for HDR and immersive audio. You have to go to each providers site to see a list of hardware that provider is compatible with. Prime example, the new FireTV has most of the new features unless you want Disney✛ because that is not on any FireTV.
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Old 09-08-2019, 06:57 PM   #17627
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You really think Netflix cares how Disney✛ will do their streaming or Amazon cares how VUDU does theirs, if you do do then I have this big bridge I will sell you on the cheap!!

Streaming is a CF when it comes to what hardware is needed for HDR and immersive audio. You have to go to each providers site to see a list of hardware that provider is compatible with. Prime example, the new FireTV has most of the new features unless you want Disney✛ because that is not on any FireTV.
Amazon and Disney have been in a long running feud, so I am not surprised that the new Disney streaming app is not available on their Fire TV products.

Amazon seems to think that they can dictate terms to the entire world; they have a similar spat with Warner Brothers, too.
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Old 09-08-2019, 07:16 PM   #17628
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Amazon seems to think that they can dictate terms to the entire world; they have a similar spat with Warner Brothers, too.
Disney is a problem child as well, never joined UV, never would do a contract with Redbox, sued Rebox (sorta a win), with Universal sued Sony (lost).

Just for grins I would like to know what is really going on between Disney and Redbox. The latest Disney releases make no mention of a digital code refund.
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Old 09-08-2019, 07:36 PM   #17629
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Disney is a problem child as well, never joined UV, never would do a contract with Redbox, sued Rebox (sorta a win), with Universal sued Sony (lost).

Just for grins I would like to know what is really going on between Disney and Redbox. The latest Disney releases make no mention of a digital code refund.
If Disney is required to make such a refund upon request, that's mandatory and they have to comply. Disney advertising the availability of such a refund is likely not required and thus they do not do so.
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Old 09-08-2019, 11:41 PM   #17630
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Amazon seems to think that they can dictate terms to the entire world; they have a similar spat with Warner Brothers, too.
Is that why my Warner Archive purchases bought from Amazon always arrive late? It must be payback from Warner Brothers.
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Old 09-08-2019, 11:48 PM   #17631
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Is that why my Warner Archive purchases bought from Amazon always arrive late? It must be payback from Warner Brothers.
My August 12th order of The Witches on Warner Archives blu-ray still has not shipped from Amazon despite its Aug. 20th release date; my estimated arrival is not until Sept. 17th.

Getting Warner Bros. or Disney releases on release day from Amazon is all but impossible.
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Old 09-08-2019, 11:56 PM   #17632
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My August 12th order of The Witches on Warner Archives blu-ray still has not shipped from Amazon despite its Aug. 20th release date; my estimated arrival is not until Sept. 17th.

Getting Warner Bros. or Disney releases on release day from Amazon is all but impossible.
Considering how long it takes you to watch your bought content, you shouldnít worry!
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Old 09-09-2019, 12:08 AM   #17633
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Considering how long it takes you to watch your bought content, you shouldn’t worry!
I just watched my dvd copy a few months ago.

I get what I want watched; you need not worry about that. I have all the free time that one could wish for afterall.
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Old 09-09-2019, 12:15 AM   #17634
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I just watched my dvd copy a few months ago.

I get what I want watched; you need not worry about that. I have all the free time that one could wish for afterall.
Lucky *******.
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Old 09-09-2019, 12:24 AM   #17635
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Lucky *******.
What you call "luck", I prefer to call "skill."

Luck played a part, but I'm taking all the credit just the same.
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Old 09-09-2019, 12:54 AM   #17636
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Old 09-09-2019, 01:55 AM   #17637
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If Disney is required to make such a refund upon request, that's mandatory and they have to comply. Disney advertising the availability of such a refund is likely not required and thus they do not do so.
I will hunt up the court orders if anyone is really interested. In a nutshell the court said Disney must make a refund available and place the notice on the packaged, they did and I tried to get one but all I got was the runaround. They have dropped the notice so it will be interesting to see if Redbox continues to sell the Disney codes.
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we all need to do what is right for each of us.

but I just don't get what I quoted above

Don't get me wrong if you start with "I live in a tiny one room apartment where I sleep on the couch because there is no room for a bed" space is definitely at a high premium and I get the issue of having thousands of disks. But in a normal house or apartment, to me it sounds made up. A 6 inch deep shelving system with 10 shelves (more or less floor to ceiling) can store ~250 films per foot even if we were to assume 200 that would mean sacrificing 5 feet of useless wall space for 1000 films. how many places don't have 5' of walls?
I have 'U shaped' shelving, 2.2m high in a purpose built cupboard. Holds about 1200.

I want to be able to easily see what I have, select a movie easily and don't like huge amounts of media or books on display in the open. Looks untidy.
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Old 09-09-2019, 03:11 AM   #17639
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I have 'U shaped' shelving, 2.2m high in a purpose built cupboard. Holds about 1200.

I want to be able to easily see what I have, select a movie easily and don't like huge amounts of media or books on display in the open. Looks untidy.
That sounds like a woman talking
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Old 09-09-2019, 04:43 AM   #17640
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You really think Netflix cares how Disney✛ will do their streaming or Amazon cares how VUDU does theirs, if you do do then I have this big bridge I will sell you on the cheap!!

Streaming is a CF when it comes to what hardware is needed for HDR and immersive audio. You have to go to each providers site to see a list of hardware that provider is compatible with. Prime example, the new FireTV has most of the new features unless you want Disney✛ because that is not on any FireTV.
You're absolutely right there are no hard guidelines or hardware requirements. Streaming has very low standards for good reasons so most people can expect good enough quality. I say with the right Codec and Adaptive Streaming that high Quality can be achieved. I'm sure Providers like Disney+ will push these limits to the max, and raise the bar for all Streaming Providers. Symmetrical Speeds are probably not needed, but good upload will make for a better Streaming experience. Also Latency where Hardwire comes into play will prove to be Vidal in this Quality Streaming!
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