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Old 09-17-2019, 11:52 AM   #1
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There's tons and tons and tons of new stuff. Go find it. Not everything is reboots. I watched "In Fashion" a couple weeks ago. Stunningly original film. The Shape of Water was mesmerizing and was nominated for a bunch of awards. Snowpiercer was very unique. Under the Skin was something very original. Just watched Witches in the Woods this past weekend - very tense film. Sure many of these don't get major theatrical releases, but they're out there. People whine that there's no original films out there but that's just not true. If all you do is see the biggest, most expensive, heavily marketed films, then that's you're own fault. I enjoy big blockbusters. I also enjoy low-budget films. As long as I'm entertained, I'm happy. And there's plenty out there to entertain you.

Go find it.
Yeah, I know. Its out there and some of it is good and some isnt. I hunt down independent films when I can or things that arent marketed heavily. I actually dont go see much at the theater these days. Not into the MCU avengers stuff at all.

I just think people are generally tired of things being rebooted/reloaded/whatever. It is happening a lot.
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Yeah, I know. Its out there and some of it is good and some isnt. I hunt down independent films when I can or things that arent marketed heavily. I actually dont go see much at the theater these days. Not into the MCU avengers stuff at all.

I just think people are generally tired of things being rebooted/reloaded/whatever. It is happening a lot.
Are you really so sure about people being "generally tired of things being rebooted/reloaded/whatever?"

Top 10 Domestic Grosses so far this year:

1 -- Avengers: Endgame

2 -- The Lion King (2019)

3 -- Toy Story 4

4 -- Captain Marvel

5 -- Spider-Man: Far From Home

6 -- Aladdin (2019)

7 -- Us

8 -- John Wick: Chapter 3

9 -- Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw

10 -- How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World


Us is the only fully original film of the 10.
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Old 09-17-2019, 02:48 PM   #3
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Are you really so sure about people being "generally tired of things being rebooted/reloaded/whatever?"

Top 10 Domestic Grosses so far this year:

1 -- Avengers: Endgame

2 -- The Lion King (2019)

3 -- Toy Story 4

4 -- Captain Marvel

5 -- Spider-Man: Far From Home

6 -- Aladdin (2019)

7 -- Us

8 -- John Wick: Chapter 3

9 -- Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw

10 -- How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World


Us is the only fully original film of the 10.
Look - whenever most remakes or reboots are announced, there is a large number of posters here and elsewhere that dont really care for the idea. Most on your list arent straight up remakes or reboots anyways. Bad list to prove your point. Some are certainly sequels but I didnt mention those. Sequels are different from reboots or remakes. You know that.

Oh and if one or more of them are remakes of some obscure, unknown original from like the 1940's then those dont count either since no one cares or has seen the original. So dont go playing that card either.
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Look - whenever most remakes or reboots are announced, there is a large number of posters here and elsewhere that dont really care for the idea. Most on your list arent straight up remakes or reboots anyways. Bad list to prove your point. Some are certainly sequels but I didnt mention those. Sequels are different from reboots or remakes. You know that.

Oh and if one or more of them are remakes of some obscure, unknown original from like the 1940's then those dont count either since no one cares or has seen the original. So dont go playing that card either.
Yes. But you also know that people often lump these tentpole films into the same stew as remakes and reboots. I don't think that's even up for argument. And I don't believe that I listed any remakes of films from the 40s. Films like Aladdin was a remake of a '92 animated film, while The Lion King was a live action version of a '94 animated film (not to mention Shakespeare's "Hamlet" for that matter). A Star Is Born from last year was a remake of the '37, '54, and '76 versions. Then you have films like Carrie, Night of the Living Dead, Pride and Prejudice, Beauty and the Beast -- ALL of which received multiple remakes.
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Yes. But you also know that people often lump these tentpole films into the same stew as remakes and reboots. I don't think that's even up for argument. And I don't believe that I listed any remakes of films from the 40s. Films like Aladdin was a remake of a '92 animated film, while The Lion King was a live action version of a '94 animated film (not to mention Shakespeare's "Hamlet" for that matter). A Star Is Born from last year was a remake of the '37, '54, and '76 versions. Then you have films like Carrie, Night of the Living Dead, Pride and Prejudice, Beauty and the Beast -- ALL of which received multiple remakes.
Oh they do lump them in and its not realistic. I dont think we are that far off here and I appreciate your sensible replies. . Aladdin was a remake but at least it was live-action so there is a slight difference. Now, I dont see the point of these Disney cartoon remakes into live action but whatever they wanna do, right? If you want to watch Aladdin.... then just watch the perfectly good animated one! Thats how I see it. I didnt even realize A Star Is Born was made that many times. Geesh.

Honestly, isnt everything really a remake of some Shakespearean concept or old Viking Norse legends?
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Oh they do lump them in and its not realistic. I dont think we are that far off here and I appreciate your sensible replies.

Honestly, isnt everything really a remake of some Shakespearean concept or old Viking Norse legends?
Pretty much, yes. Anything with a remotely linear timeline, is a comedy, history, tragedy, or romance is, yes, probably working off of a Shakespeare-inspired concept. Or Greek or Roman or Viking, yes.
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Oh they do lump them in and its not realistic. I dont think we are that far off here and I appreciate your sensible replies. . Aladdin was a remake but at least it was live-action so there is a slight difference. Now, I dont see the point of these Disney cartoon remakes into live action but whatever they wanna do, right? If you want to watch Aladdin.... then just watch the perfectly good animated one! Thats how I see it. I didnt even realize A Star Is Born was made that many times. Geesh.

Honestly, isnt everything really a remake of some Shakespearean concept or old Viking Norse legends?
To be fair to the series of A Star Is Born films, yes it's 4 versions. OTOH, it's 4 versions over 85 years. That's almost 10 years longer than the average lifespan in the United States. So, to most people like me (51), the only ones which dropped during my life are the '76 and '19 versions (both of which I saw in the theater, and both of which I really liked, btw). IOW, it's not like they're coming out with a new one every few years, or something.

It's just a great story, and a very popular property.
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