The Shining 4K UHD (1980)

[ROSS.T.G.]

She was perfectly cast IMO. It’s a perfect horror movie.

[Snicket]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Kubrick and Jack berated, bullied, badgered, and harrassed her unmercifully not because she was a bad actress, but because they were trying to get more realistic responses from her. It's a guerrilla filmmaking technique also used in films such as Apocalypse Now and Alien where you tried to not capture performances, but gritty reality. As an example in Alien, they kept Nancy Cartwright and a few other actors out of the loop with the chestburster scene. Therefore, it was a one take scene with authentic shock and horror captured.

Shelly was a very sensitive and vulnerable person and so the director and her co-star conspired to make her react by winding her clock and then Kubrick would roll the scene. It was cruel and they apologized profusely afterwards at the wrap, but it stuck with Shelly long after and she felt it was like mental torture.

Disgusting emotional abuse.

[jrcorwin3]

Originally Posted by Brian81

I like Duvall in the role as it is more believable that a less pretty woman will go to further lengths in putting up with a bad relationship.

Holy christ...are you serious?

[TXMoviebuff77]

Originally Posted by Brian81

I like Duvall in the role as it is more believable that a less pretty woman will go to further lengths in putting up with a bad relationship.

Harsh & what about a movie like The Entity that has Barbara Hershey who is very attractive getting raped, was her performance believable?

[Filmmaker]

Baby Boomers and Gen X, meet the Millennials. Millennials, meet Gen X and the Baby Boomers.

[LegacyCosts]

Originally Posted by Brian81

I like Duvall in the role as it is more believable that a less pretty woman will go to further lengths in putting up with a bad relationship.

Yes because attractive people never stay in abusive or bad relationships right?

[Brian81]

Originally Posted by LegacyCosts

Yes because attractive people never stay in abusive or bad relationships right?

It's a generalization. Happens quite often. Same goes for women with low self esteem. They allow guys to take advantage of them.

[Gacivory]

This is new. A Kubrick thread not derailed by aspect ratio talk. Or a Shining thread not bogged down with U.S. cut vs Europe Cut.

[bluescholar]

Nothing new. Just a problem with the ol' s p e r m bank upstairs.

[KMR]

Regarding The Exorcist:

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

In the film though, the visual of Regan twisting her head is presented in a very straightforward, matter-of-fact manner. When we know something is an illusion, like Karras' mother, it's a bit more like dream-like. So I don't know...

I'm glad you mention this. Because this particular scene is the one thing about the movie that I have been bothered by since I first saw it in early 1974. I had read the book, and this passage was one (of many) that really gave me the creeps, and I was wondering how it was going to end up looking on film. And as I was watching it, I was thinking, "Friedkin's approach is all wrong." It was too matter-of-fact, too straightforward. We were seeing it from a bystander's point of view, not Chris McNeil's. There was no attempt to communicate Chris's experience of seeing what Regan was doing, which was the whole point of the scene.

Also: Thank You for saying Regan was "twisting" her head around. I get so tired of people saying her head was "spinning"...

[Cherokee Jack]

Perhaps some are unaware but when I said Duvall worked well playing a character who is 'relatively homely, less educated and generally lacking in confidence', I wasn't attacking Duvall but rather comparing the character in Kubrick's film to the character in King's book. King's Wendy sexually excites Jack, is educated & cultured and is generally portrayed as a strong modern woman whereas Kubrick's Wendy is as described above. The Jack/Wendy/Danny relationship is written very broadly in the movie, especially in the Euro cut, and it would have been needlessly distracting had Kubrick cast someone who didn't have the stereotypical look and sound of someone who'd tolerate both Jack's clear lack of respect for her and the occasional bout of alcohol fueled child abuse.

Duvall also absolutely nailed her character's increasing hysteria and while some of that might have been thanks to actual on-set emotional abuse, her incredibly expressive face did some heavy lifting too. I can't imagine anyone else in the part.

[TXMoviebuff77]

Originally Posted by Cherokee Jack

Perhaps some are unaware but when I said Duvall worked well playing a character who is 'relatively homely, less educated and generally lacking in confidence', I wasn't attacking Duvall but rather comparing the character in Kubrick's film to the character in King's book. King's Wendy sexually excites Jack, is educated & cultured and is generally portrayed as a strong modern woman whereas Kubrick's Wendy is as described above. The Jack/Wendy/Danny relationship is written very broadly in the movie, especially in the Euro cut, and it would have been needlessly distracting had Kubrick cast someone who didn't have the stereotypical look and sound of someone who'd tolerate both Jack's clear lack of respect for her and the occasional bout of alcohol fueled child abuse.

Duvall also absolutely nailed her character's increasing hysteria and while some of that might have been thanks to actual on-set emotional abuse, her incredibly expressive face did some heavy lifting too. I can't imagine anyone else in the part.

So your the one who started it all, tsk tsk

[Cherokee Jack]

Originally Posted by TXMoviebuff77

So your the one who started it all, tsk tsk

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=2003

[JEDGAR1000]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

Baby Boomers and Gen X, meet the Millennials. Millennials, meet Gen X and the Baby Boomers.

[TXMoviebuff77]

Originally Posted by JEDGAR1000

Well the baby boomers created those millennials.

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by TXMoviebuff77

Well the baby boomers created those millennials.

And are kicking themselves for it daily.

[gates70]

Gee this site hit a new low talking about someone's looks instead of their acting...

[ROSS.T.G.]

Originally Posted by gates70

Gee this site hit a new low talking about someone's looks instead of their acting...

Still not up on Best Buy or Amazon.ca

[gates70]

Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

Still not up on Best Buy or Amazon.ca

I know, I keep checking and it's pissing me off.

[ROSS.T.G.]

Originally Posted by gates70

I know, I keep checking and it's pissing me off.

I’m going to try and reserve a copy from Sunrise.