Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

It probably won't happen to nearly the extent that Steedeel thinks it will but self-censorship of digital content is already happening. Calling it unfounded is inaccurate.

As in: Netflix’s Seth Meyers Comedy Special Lets Viewers Skip Trump Jokes (here).

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I have a few unused codes myself.

Congrats on the 4K disc purchases; you'd say which ones so we can then decide if you have good taste in movies or not.

The 2 I bought today were Dunkirk and Overlord. (both used for $11.99 each .. .and both came with iTunes 4K copies)

I haven't seen either so I don't know if I should be judged yet... these were blind buys.

You could judge me by the rest of my collection though it needs updating. I do enjoy but good and bad movies.

I'm really hoping UltraHD Blu Rays are big on Black Friday this year because Black Friday is pretty easy in my town (and online of course.) Around here I can go to town at 9AM and most movie deals are still there.

-Brian

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Well,... It took a while but I'm hooked on UltraHD Blu Ray now....

Bought 2 today ... so don't worry.



-Brian

p.s. ... I have no idea why when I buy used discs the codes are still active but I am thankful for it. So far every UltraHD Blu Ray I've bought used has come with un-used codes.

Wait, you bought them used? Don't you know that if you don't pay full price for them the studios will think that folks are not supporting the format and will fold it eventually.

[Vilya]

My mute, fast forward, and chapter skip buttons have always allowed me to self-censor.

Options don't scare me; try harder, damn it.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

The Joker says hello. That’s just an example in the last month.

Touché. The way you were going about it read like it was in the absolute as opposed to the exception. Thanks for clarifying.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by bhampton

The 2 I bought today were Dunkirk and Overlord. (both used for $11.99 each .. .and both came with iTunes 4K copies)

I haven't seen either so I don't know if I should be judged yet... these were blind buys.

You could judge me by the rest of my collection though it needs updating. I do enjoy but good and bad movies.

I'm really hoping UltraHD Blu Rays are big on Black Friday this year because Black Friday is pretty easy in my town (and online of course.) Around here I can go to town at 9AM and most movie deals are still there.

-Brian

Tsk tsk, we can judge you all the same.

I have both of those, too, but I have only seen Dunkirk. As I bought them also, you have my seal of approval for these two titles. What an honor!

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Vilya

And full wifi home automation; you're a cave dwelling Luddite without it.

Asked Google Home (Mini) if I was a cave dwelling Luddite and the response was, “I’m not sure about that but I am learning” and Alexa said, “I don’t know how to help with that.” I am going to stop buying them both funny books if they can not come up with better answers.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Asked Google Home (Mini) if I was a cave dwelling Luddite and the response was, “I’m not sure about that but I am learning” and Alexa said, “I don’t know how to help with that.” I am going to stop buying them both funny books if they can not come up with better answers.

Us low tech folk just use our Magic 8 Balls to answer tough questions. but true.

[Ender14]

Originally Posted by bhampton

The 2 I bought today were Dunkirk and Overlord. (both used for $11.99 each .. .and both came with iTunes 4K copies)

Overlord was one of my favorites from last year. Great little horror movie.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Ender14

Overlord was one of my favorites from last year. Great little horror movie.

I need to watch my copy.

I would, too, if I didn't get all of my scares right here in this thread.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Touché. The way you were going about it read like it was in the absolute as opposed to the exception. Thanks for clarifying.

No, I am giving you an example just in the last month to magnify just how far reaching it will be. This is nearly a one billion film and still it will be cut (song changed) for the home release.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Ender14

Overlord was one of my favorites from last year. Great little horror movie.

Just bought that on Blu-ray. The opening sequence should be a great ‘surround’ workout.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I am having my first caffeinated beverage right now; had a late night playing a video game with online strangers. I always learn new words when I do this.

I came here to see what I am supposed to be afraid of today; I figured you'd just be getting started, too.

I think the fear of censorship is certainly not one of my predictions. It’s been a ongoing concern for most film fans for a few years now, rightly so.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Have mentioned before but will repeat. For folks that enter a lot of UPC codes into their media data base may find this Android Lightning QR code Scanner useful. I scan the UPC, click copy contents and paste the number into Notes.

For digital codes with QR, just scan and follow the prompts.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

No, I am giving you an example just in the last month to magnify just how far reaching it will be. This is nearly a one billion film and still it will be cut (song changed) for the home release.

Has that been confirmed by the studio - to the song change? I remember folks being shocked but nothing came of it yet.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

That's not what I meant by self-censorship. I meant the studios or digital providers censoring the content themselves after release (instead of being forced to).

Netflix removing the suicide scene from 13 Reasons Why is an example of this. The DVD still has it in it's original form and none of the thousands of DVDs in circulation can ever be modified.

More and more examples will pop up like this.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

No, I am giving you an example just in the last month to magnify just how far reaching it will be. This is nearly a one billion film and still it will be cut (song changed) for the home release.

Disney did the same thing with the animated Aladdin. One of the original songs, as it was presented theatrically, was deemed to be disparaging to Arabic people. I think the song was removed before there were any home video releases.

How many times has 1915's The Birth of a Nation been edited over the decades? Several versions exist and there have been periodic calls to ban it altogether.

And don't even dare mention The Song Of The South; it is anathema to Disney.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

That's not what I meant by self-censorship. I meant the studios or digital providers censoring the content themselves after release (instead of being forced to).

Netflix removing the suicide scene from 13 Reasons Why is an example of this. The DVD still has it in it's original form and none of the thousands of DVDs in circulation can ever be modified.

I was referring to the Netflix option to skip specific political jokes during their stand-up comedy shows.

But I am against censorship, or should I say this type of "editing" lest another semantics battle ensue?

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Self-censorship is the act of censoring one's own discourse. 13 Reasons Why is arguably Netflix's discourse. So when they modify it of their own free will (rather than being forced to by a government or some other entity) then it is arguably self-censorship.

I already changed my post to be clearer as to what I was talking about.

It is an example of me censoring my discourse right before your very eyes.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

It is a stupid thing to say, regardless.

But Very relevant to the censorship discussion.

I thought you would see the irony, obviously not.