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Beast · 03-13-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullseye

How Gump beat Shawshank is beyond me. Shawshank is in a different league.

Yeah. Gump was actually good. Shawshank however was not.

Doctorossi · 03-13-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ckent22

You don't really understand the term lowest common denominator.

I think he understands it. He just disagrees with you about where the line is drawn.

ckent22 · 03-13-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi

I think he understands it. He just disagrees with you about where the line is drawn.

If he understood then why would he think these films don't require any brain power whatsoever? Because that's the least common denominator.

Doctorossi · 03-13-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ckent22

If he understood then why would he think these films don't require any brain power whatsoever? Because that's the least common denominator.

Well, that's perhaps the least common denominator of a thing on planet Earth, but it's not the least common denominator of movies that can open on 4,000 screens. You do need to be able to interpret, say, that you're seeing representations of humans up on that screen, right?

ckent22 · 03-13-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Well, that's perhaps the least common denominator of a thing on planet Earth, but it's not the least common denominator of movies that can open on 4,000 screens. You do need to be able to interpret, say, that you're seeing representations of humans up on that screen, right?

Well, I was making the assumption that everyone who goes to a film knows that MOST films have actors in them. And that most will have some sort of a plot.

I think 99% of people can interpret those 2 things.

There are 2 big differences between films that make you think or cause you to think about what's going on and films that suffer from a weak plot or not plot at all and bad dialogue and these four films don't suffer from those.

That's why they aren't the lowest common denominator.

Joe Cain · 03-13-2009, 09:05 PM

It's a lot more fun seeing this thread bumped when there's something to read besides...well, what can be read in any other thread on the board.

horseflesh · 03-13-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi

I think he understands it. He just disagrees with you about where the line is drawn.

Yes, exactly.
They're really just Oscar fodder that appeals to the masses. They're either all about pulling the heart-strings (Titanic & Gump) or championing machismo (Gladiator & Braveheart).
Two different types of lowest-common-denominator, but lowest-common-denominator nonetheless.

ckent22 · 03-13-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by horseflesh

Yes, exactly.
They're really just Oscar fodder that appeals to the masses. They're either all about pulling the heart-strings (Titanic & Gump) or championing machismo (Gladiator & Braveheart).
Two different types of lowest-common-denominator, but lowest-common-denominator nonetheless.

Completely disagree, but to each his own.

horseflesh · 03-13-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ckent22

Completely disagree, but to each his own.

Indeed, different horses for different courses.
We'll just have to agree to disagree

SquidPuppet · 03-13-2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ckent22

You don't really understand the term lowest common denominator. That means a film is dumbed down per say so that even the simplest audience member can understand and that relatively no brain power is used whatsoever.

I'd beg to disagree with you on these 4 films appealing to the lowest common denominator.

There is nothing even remotely complex in those 4. They are simple and straightforward. Anyone can follow them. Soooo..... LCD is applicable here.

ckent22 · 03-13-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

There is nothing even remotely complex in those 4. They are simple and straightforward. Anyone can follow them. Soooo..... LCD is applicable here.

I disagree. Lowest common denominator would be a comedy where everyone gets the jokes and little brain power is used.

SquidPuppet · 03-13-2009, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ckent22

I disagree. Lowest common denominator would be a comedy where everyone gets the jokes and little brain power is used.

How much brain power is used to watch, and fully understand, those 4? An 8 year old could comprehend every aspect of each one of those. They are basic as basic could be, and require no effort from the viewer. If they were difficult for you....well...no comment.

Doctorossi · 03-13-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ckent22

Lowest common denominator would be a comedy where everyone gets the jokes and little brain power is used.

What does quantity of humor have to do with quantity of intelligence required for comprehension?

SquidPuppet · 03-13-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi

What does quantity of humor have to do with quantity of intelligence required for comprehension?

Doc, this is your first chat with Ckent22, isnt it?

Doctorossi · 03-13-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

Doc, this is your first chat with Ckent22, isnt it?

Oooooh! That's ominous.

First. ... and last?

SquidPuppet · 03-13-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Oooooh! That's ominous.

First. ... and last?

Entirely up to you. I however, have no self control.

Jeff Kleist · 03-13-2009, 10:10 PM

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hey're really just Oscar fodder that appeals to the masses. They're either all about pulling the heart-strings (Titanic & Gump) or championing machismo (Gladiator & Braveheart).
Two different types of lowest-common-denominator, but lowest-common-denominator nonetheless.

I'd disagree on Gladiator, the rest yes, and the less attention that's paid to Mel Gibson's martyrdom complex the better

The only place I want to see someone chained up shouting "FREEDOM!" is Baseketball

. I still can't believe the gag reel was only on the VHS *sigh*

ckent22 · 03-13-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

Entirely up to you. I however, have no self control.

Not too good for a 49 year old man to have no self control.

Blu Titan · 03-13-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ckent22

Completely disagree, but to each his own.

And I completely agree with you. Superb movies.

AKORIS · 03-13-2009, 10:17 PM

Sure am tired of reading posts from people that always rip blockbuster titles--seems almost like if the "stupid masses" like a film then it can't
be any good...sigh.

anyhoo-- I think that all 4 films listed here are GREAT movies and for the
record-- I love emotional films-- which all 4 of these films are...

manipulative? Of course! Isn't that what a lot of filmmaking is about?
The director films scenes to create reactions-- fear, sad, happy, etc.
If the movie accomplishes this then it works-- there certaintly have been
plenty of movies that fail miserably in these catagories..

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Joe Cain Power Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:The Tragic City Blu-ray collection:79	It's a lot more fun seeing this thread bumped when there's something to read besides...well, what can be read in any other thread on the board.

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AKORIS Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Beautiful Pacific Northwest 4K collection:662 Blu-ray collection:3655 Blu-ray reviews:19	Sure am tired of reading posts from people that always rip blockbuster titles--seems almost like if the "stupid masses" like a film then it can't be any good...sigh. anyhoo-- I think that all 4 films listed here are GREAT movies and for the record-- I love emotional films-- which all 4 of these films are... manipulative? Of course! Isn't that what a lot of filmmaking is about? The director films scenes to create reactions-- fear, sad, happy, etc. If the movie accomplishes this then it works-- there certaintly have been plenty of movies that fail miserably in these catagories..

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